Headsail for my Compac 19XL

[baldeghi]

Looking for suggestions as to what company will respond favorably to supplying me with a new 155% hank-on genoa for my Compac 19XL.  Or, does anyone have one they would like to part with?  Response has been slow to nothing;  business must be good.  I don't think so!

[Craig Weis]

155% lapper for Com-Pac 19. Mine is for a Harkan size '00' furler.

~Com-Pac? Na too expensive.

~Used sail guys? Tons of them. Goggle.

~Sail East, Lombard, Illinois. My spinnaker came from them.

~DorSal, Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Charley Klein. Good guy. DORSAL, LLC
61 Michigan St., Sturgeon Bay, WI 54235
Phone: 920-743-4126   Fax: 920-743-4139
E-mail: Charlie@dorsalsailsandcanvas.com
www.DorsalSailsandCanvas.com
Work is good enough for $44 million PJ yachts.

Look around the internet.
skip.

[Potcake boy]

Baldeghi,

Call Dirk at National Sail Supply ( http://www.nationalsail.com/ ). I purchased main and jib for my CP19 from him and I'm very pleased with quality and service plus you'll find the price very agreeable. They probably have sail dimensions on record but Dirk may ask you to measure to make sure. Delivery time is also very good, and you won't get the snobby attitude that you run into at  some of the "high class" sail lofts. If they were just called sail stores they may be a bit more humble and better prices too. I remember once when looking for new sails for my trimaran and reading an ad on the back cover of a top sail magazine that the sail maker proclaimed that they specialised in multihull sails. When I stopped by the Annapolis shop for this company (it might have been UK) I was informed in short order - without even looking at my boat - that "we don't make sails for them".  I have also heard others on this forum mention that they purchased from National Sail which are actually built by Rolley Tasker, so they are familiar with our modest Compac yachts.

Good luck on that and please share your experience here on the forum.

Ron

[Bob Condon]

First thing is that the fall is the best time (pricewise) to purchase a sail.

For my Cape Dory, I used Doyle out of Salem Mass because they will give you exactly what you want,
plus I purchased right at the end of the season when everyone else is putting their boats away. I got a
$1600 mainsail for $1350, plus they washed the rest of my sails... and I paid for some sewing.

I also like supporting local vendors when possible because when you break something and they don't
know your name, then you are $^%^%$  out of luck!

My CP19 155% and my mainsail were purchased through Sailrite. Because I was building two
sails, I purchased their sailmakers machine and more than pleased. I think the sails combined were around
$600 and the machine was around $800 after discount, with lots of extras...

The sails came out great and they were pretty easy to sew if you have a large
enough space (witha  hardwood floor)

I now have a heavy duty sewing machine to make sail covers (use the old one as a pattern, tiller covers to keep the sun out
and clutch covers to make everything purty...

and sewingm for me is just plain relaxing. You save a bundle with the kits and they included everything.

I hope to make a storm sail at some point

[baldeghi]

Seems no one can make me a genoa right away for my Compac 19xl.  Gonna try another tack.  Anyone out there want to sell their 155% genoa so they can purchase a new one?  My wife actually gave the go ahead to make the purchase, so we can hopefully compete in our local regatta on the 14th and 15th of this month.

[Bob Condon]

If you have the "official" dimensions of the sail, then any competant sailmaker can
make it. I would call Doyle in Salem, Mass. He also will have the dimension if they
were published.

If you are looking online with manufacturing in CHina, then you get what you get I suppose.

If you call Salirite (www.sailrite.com), they build standard kits but have the service to sew
the kit for you so the price is probably $600-800.

Salrite did not have the info in the database but a couple of sites
have the information if you do not have it:

http://www.mauriprosailing.com/techinfo/boatspecs/boatspecs.htm



http://www.mauriprosailing.com/techinfo/boatspecs/Rig%20C.htm

BOAT I J P E ISP JSP PY EY
Compac 16 12.8 4.5 16.3 8.0 12.8 4.5 
Compac 16-2/3 12.8 5.4 16.3 8.0 12.8 5.4 
Compac 19 21.8 6.4 18.8 8.0 21.8 6.4 
Compac 19-2/3 21.8 7.2 18.8 8.0 21.8 7.2 
Compac 23 26.0 8.4 22.8 8.5 26.0 8.4 
Compac 23-2/3 26.0 9.4 22.8 8.5 26.0 9.4 
Compac 27 31.4 11.0 25.8 12.0 31.4 11.0 
Compac 27-2 31.8 11.4 26.8 11.9 31.8 11.4 
Compac 33 44.5 13.5 38.5 14.0 44.5 13.5 
Compac 35 44.5 13.5 38.5 14.0 44.5 13.5
 

Hope that helps.

I can also look up in my notes in the folder regarding the kit from Sailrite..

good luck

Bob

[baldeghi]

Bob,
Thanx for the info.  I am interested in the kit from Sailrite, with also purchasing a sewing machine.  Is all sail material pre-cut;  does Sailrite include thread;  are the directions understandable, etc.?  Have you been happy with the machine?  I suppose you chose the most reasonable priced one for home usage.
Brian

[Bob Condon]

The directions are GREAT!

Each panel is cut and there is a joining line where two panels come together. You used basting
tape which is double sided tape the it 1/8" wide and you put that just inside the matching line
then put the other panel on top of it. I is sticky "enough" but you can take it apart (like posit notes) and restick
it together. I think each sail took me about 6 hours to complete... I used to work 1 hour before work each morning so you
back is not killing you with 6 hours of work.  Each panel also has masking lape with Luff and Leach on it because it would be very easy
to get turned around so they mark everything very well.

It was a lot of fun to put tem together..


EVERYTHING is included. I did have to purchase grommet "set" kits and a punch kit because it is easier.

I purchased the zig zag machine in a portable case. I had a friend who needed to fix a dodger which was 9 lalers
thick with fabric and she is thinking how she will need to take it apart and sew different layers with her home machine... The
sewing machine went right through everything like butter... I am now on her "I know where I can get a sewing machine" list.

I purchased the ultrafeed LSZ-1, the load it kit (the heavy flywheel drives the machine through everything) and the bind kit so to answer
your question, I got the machine I wanted for the things I would be doing.

I watched for coupons and discounts (get on their mailing list) so I got about 20 or 25% off which was the price of the accessories...

It really is an investment and if you like to make cushions or boat things, you have a machine that can do that.

I can say absolutely nothing bad about sailrite from their products to their machine to the quality of their kits. I did buy
one of the DVDs for making the sails because it shows every operation (about 2 hours of video where they cut out "watching the machine do he same thng"). They also give some ints in the video that is not in the directions like "use spray adhesive [3M] to stick all the layered patches together and let dry and them sew everything later..

Bob

[David V.]

Baldeghi,

I have a 155% genoa in good condition if you are still interested.

David

[baldeghi]

David,
I have ordered a 155 genoa from National Sails in Florida.  If it doesn't arrive soon, will be forced to cancel my order and check out yours.  How much do you want for the sail and who is the manufacturer?
Brian

[David V.]

I would say the sail is in good condition. No tears, patches or repairs. White but could use a cleaning. About 15 year old Johnson sail with limited use. (five years not at all and about 2 to 3 weeks per year when it was used) I'd be happy with $85 - 90 dollars but I'll consider all offers. I think if this sail was sent to Sailcare for re-coating and cleaning, it would be a very good sail. I did contact them about this and was quoted a price of $117. Also I just looked at it and there is a spot an inch or two on the leech that could be remended - thread cumming undone- not a tear. I just bought a furler and will also be getting rid of a jib in even better condition and a new storm sail if interested.

David

[Potcake boy]

Baldeghi,
Did you receive your sail from National Sails? If so, are you happy with it? I had elected to stay with a 110 on a furler and it's good except in very light air.  How does the 19 perform close winded with a genoa?

Ron

[baldeghi]

Ron,
The sail looks to be made as good as any and better than most!  Have not had even enough wind here in Northern CA to give it a test, plus the drought and the voluminous amount of weed growth here are keeping me landlocked.  Will let you know how it performs as soon as I can use!
Brian