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Positive flotation

Started by mikehennessy, February 11, 2019, 12:07:54 AM

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mikehennessy

Greetings all - was wondering if people use positive flotation for their Sunday or Sun cats?  If so, what works best?

-Mike
2018 Sunday Cat "Good Chemistry"

Finbar Beagle

Mike, not sure this helps, but I do in my picnic cat.   I use tubes from Optimist, some pool noodles, and a few bumpers.  The PC is a lot lighter than the Suncat.

I jammed some opti tubes in my CP 19. Not sure if they would help, but figured it would not hurt.

Brian, Finbar Beagle's Dad

CP 19 MkII- Galway Terrapin, Hull 372
Northern Barnegat Bay, NJ

Andre

Same as Finbar, I use Optimist flotation bags in my PC.  I can't imagine using them in my HC, though, ha, ha!  It's even heavier at about 2,500-3,000 lbs.

These were the cheapest I'd found.  I bought 6 and have used 4 for 7 years now and they've held up fine so the other 2 are spares.  Each one provides about 100 lbs of buoyancy.

http://www.intensitysails.com/flbaforop.html

Andre


Vipersdad

Quote from: Andre on February 11, 2019, 11:31:36 PM
Same as Finbar, I use Optimist flotation bags in my PC.  I can't imagine using them in my HC, though, ha, ha!  It's even heavier at about 2,500-3,000 lbs.

These were the cheapest I'd found.  I bought 6 and have used 4 for 7 years now and they've held up fine so the other 2 are spares.  Each one provides about 100 lbs of buoyancy.

http://www.intensitysails.com/flbaforop.html

Andre

What is size of the bags.  My 19 weighs roughly 2,000 lbs. and if I add outboard, anchors, line, canned goods, camp stove, etc., I might have an additional 300 or more pounds.  Can you stuff 23 bags in the cabin?
s/v  "MaryElla"   Com-Pac 19 / II  #436
Iceboat "Red Bird"--Polar Bear 10-Meter, Built 1953

Lake Winnebago, Lake Mendota, Lake Namakagon, Lake Superior.

"To Hutch, Gerry, Buck, and Clarkie--Who made it so much fun.".....Robert F. Burgess, Author-Handbook of Trailer Sailing 1984

Andre

I imagine that you could, but I really don't think it's a practical solution to put it mildly.  Far better to keep a keelboat with a cabin free of water and upright!


Vipersdad

I agree.  Part of sailing safe is having your hatches secure.

V.
s/v  "MaryElla"   Com-Pac 19 / II  #436
Iceboat "Red Bird"--Polar Bear 10-Meter, Built 1953

Lake Winnebago, Lake Mendota, Lake Namakagon, Lake Superior.

"To Hutch, Gerry, Buck, and Clarkie--Who made it so much fun.".....Robert F. Burgess, Author-Handbook of Trailer Sailing 1984

Bob23

Best to keep the waterline on the outside of the boat! Don't ask how I know this.
Bob23

Zephyros

Quote from: mikehennessy on February 11, 2019, 12:07:54 AM
Greetings all - was wondering if people use positive flotation for their Sunday or Sun cats?  If so, what works best?
-Mike

Not yet, but I have thought about it, the amount of positive buoyancy is not equal to the weight of the boat, equipment and people, it a percent of the weight required to keep the boat afloat, but doing the correct calculations are a little tricky and take time, a few links to get you started:

https://goneoutdoors.com/calculate-buoyancy-small-boat-8056787.html

https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/buoyancy-and-floatation-calcs.17717/

US Coastguard, see last link:
Subpart F, Subpart G, & Subpart H — Flotation Requirements
PDF version (1.02 MB)
http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/builders-handbook-downloads.php

calculate amount of positive buoyancy for boat
https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&ei=TvhvXL6ZJYiUsgXOr7qYAQ&q=calculate+amount+of+positive+buoyancy+for+boat&oq=calculate+amount+of+positive+buoyancy+for+boat&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i299j33i160.285262.287692..287875...0.0..0.350.2083.0j1j4j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39.xHUL_ouELDw

kickingbug1

   im guessing that if the cabin is filled with water shes going to the bottom. ive been told that my capri 18 has positive floatation. im not buying it. when I get into a good blow the hatches are buttoned down.
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