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lazy jacks

Started by ed phillips, June 27, 2005, 10:50:12 PM

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ed phillips

Am looking for a source to purchase and/or any advice regarding installation or use of lazy jacks on a 19-II.  Will be doing mostly singlehanded sailing and want to keep the systems as "user friendly" as possible.  Running the main halyard to the cockpit and a lazy jack system seem to be the optimum mainsail arrangement.  

(Am also running the jib halyard to cockpit, adding a downhaul and using safety netting on the life lines to keep the jib from going over the side.  So far it's just a plan, hope it will work.  :? )

Am new to the CPYOA and this post is a duplicate of one put on the gear page a day or so ago.  Forgive me if I'm "double dipping."

mgoller

Hi Ed
Welcome, I have a 19 and it came to me with a snap furler.  I use a downhaul on the 16.  Both work.  The furling offers more in the way of fine speed and power adjustment when coming back to the dock and if needed.  I loved the way the hank on jib set but I wouldn't go back to that on a boat as large as the 19.  There can be moments when single handing when the furling is a Godsend.
My furling line runs from the furler spool through a series of eyes that are simply SS hoseclamped onto the life line stanchions.  Finally the line goes through a block mounted to (the deck, I can't remember) or the stanchion near the front of the cockpit combing and secures to an aluminum cleat mounted vertically on that same stanchion.  The hose clamps seemed crude but I haven't changed them.
It seems like you could run the downhaul the same way.  It will keep it running free and in place for when you need it.
I also added a galley to my 19.  Check out my post in this same forum.  It works really well and folds down most of the time.
I also added shelves along the backs of both quarter berths.  I used red oak minwax stain and satin poly.  That seems to match the aged wood in my cabin.
I think there are pictures in the gallery of Windy with its interior finishes.  The shelves come in handy and serve as backrests with the filler cushions placed squeezed in place between shelves and berth cushions.

Craig Weis

Comfort and Joy is not fitted with Lazy Jacks but instead uses a simple SS wire, wire-clamped using u-clamps, to the back stay. A clam opening hook simply fits within a SS loop factory fitted to the boom. When unclipped from the boom the cable hooks to the back stay till need when lowering the main. skip.

steve brown

Hi Ed,  Regarding Lazy Jacks, you may want to look at the Sail-Cradle system made by Sail Care. I have it on Odina Aurore and it woks great.  Steve

spaul

Ed, I have a cp27 that had a Dutchman flaking system that worked ok. I moved to a set of lazy jacks from Harken that I do like. I then had a sail catcher made by Indycanvas.com, they call it a main furler I think. Anyway, the lazy jacks attach to the sail catcher and make the whole experience a beautiful thing. THe sail catcher slides in the mainsail groove on the boom along with your sail. The lazy jacks attach to loops on the sail catcher. The sail catcher is a sail cover with the top open (it has a zipper for closing along the top). You simply keep the sail in the cover, unzip the top and raise the main. Lower the main and the lazy jacks keep it lined up to fall into the sail catcher, then zip 'er shut and all is well. Just my great experience, I love it. I'll take a photo if I can and post it.
Steve Paul

K3v1n

#5
Wow!

Now I have another thing to add to my list.
I hated fighting the mainsail!

Steve,
The cover stays in place all the time, do you find that a problem?

Here is the link...it's not cheap though.

http://www.indycanvas.com/product_info.php?cPath=41_3_25_21&products_id=31

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spaul

Kevin, no it's not cheap but I've found little is cheap on a sailboat. The cover stayin in place works just fine. The open top allows plenty of opening at the top and it just rides there. It works by having a section of sailcloth in the middle of the bottom section. The sail bolt rope is then held while the cover sailcloth is wrapped around the sail rope and then the pair are slid into the boom sail groove. That's what holds it in place.
We encountered this type of cover on  a sailing school cruise out of Ft. Lauderdale and since then we were on a catamaran in St. Thomas that had one. I was hooked, it works so well. I'll try to take a few photo's of mine and post them. I believe I could make one now that I've seen it and used it.  It's extremely efficient and makes single handing even better.

Steve

perseverance272

Steve, I'm a new owner of a 27/2 (I purchased Perseverance from Alec Hart). I'm interested your lazy jack system and also the boom rigging. After transport, I'm having a tough time figuring out the reefing system, etc. Can you send some pics of your rig? I'd really appreciate the help.

Thanks!
Jason