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#91
CP-16's / Re: Tell me what I got:
Last post by Cats Paw - August 23, 2026, 08:30:37 PMWelcome aboard Swampbuckster. I the one who steered you here from the Michigan Sportsman Forum. Your project is like the one when I restored SV Ru-Ach C16.
Bunks replaced along with keel concrete. Added A CDI jib furller.Got rid of the bolt rope on the main and replaced with slugs. A well worth upgrade but pricey. Replaced all blocks and improved the purchase system for the main
The thumbnail pic was taken just previous to adding the CDI furller system.
Bunks replaced along with keel concrete. Added A CDI jib furller.Got rid of the bolt rope on the main and replaced with slugs. A well worth upgrade but pricey. Replaced all blocks and improved the purchase system for the main
The thumbnail pic was taken just previous to adding the CDI furller system.
#92
Classifieds for Com-pac boats / Re: CLAIMED: Com-Pac 16 proje...
Last post by CaptScubaDave - August 22, 2026, 11:48:47 AMFishties -
There's a problem with your HIN as posted. HIN ABV01974m8311 is not valid; it looks like it should be ABV01974M83L. This would make it Com-PAC hull number 1974, Model Year 1983, built in April of 1983. So it is a late Type 1/early Type 2, possibly. There is a blur between the 1&2 between '83 and '85, but with a hull number below 2001, it's likely mostly Type 1. I own a '85, hull 2244, and it's a hybrid, but well beyond the "last Type 1" hull number commonly used - #2001.
As an '83, yours is still a valuable boat to keep on the active rolls. A few weeks ago, I would have been jumping at your offer, but I wound up buying the one I mentioned above. I also have a 1977, Type 1 modified with a Pilot House. It was modified professionally, but I'm adding a lot of cruising mass to it and wanted to be able to sailing without having to disrupt the work on it, so I got a second boat and paid for it. Being in my 9th decade hasn't slowed me down in my goals. I still sail, work on my boats, scuba dive and travel. Drives my wife of just shy of 62 years crazy! 🤪
Much as I love NPR, I recommend you give some dollars to them and find the right sailor for your boat. If you run out of candidates, I'll gladly take her and use her well I'd love to get a group of young folks and train them to sail around here.
Fair weather and following winds, my friend !
Capt ScubaDave
'77 Com-Pac 16 PH #278 Type 1 base (currently)
'85 Com-Pac 16 Type 1/2 hybrid #2244 (currently)
There's a problem with your HIN as posted. HIN ABV01974m8311 is not valid; it looks like it should be ABV01974M83L. This would make it Com-PAC hull number 1974, Model Year 1983, built in April of 1983. So it is a late Type 1/early Type 2, possibly. There is a blur between the 1&2 between '83 and '85, but with a hull number below 2001, it's likely mostly Type 1. I own a '85, hull 2244, and it's a hybrid, but well beyond the "last Type 1" hull number commonly used - #2001.
As an '83, yours is still a valuable boat to keep on the active rolls. A few weeks ago, I would have been jumping at your offer, but I wound up buying the one I mentioned above. I also have a 1977, Type 1 modified with a Pilot House. It was modified professionally, but I'm adding a lot of cruising mass to it and wanted to be able to sailing without having to disrupt the work on it, so I got a second boat and paid for it. Being in my 9th decade hasn't slowed me down in my goals. I still sail, work on my boats, scuba dive and travel. Drives my wife of just shy of 62 years crazy! 🤪
Much as I love NPR, I recommend you give some dollars to them and find the right sailor for your boat. If you run out of candidates, I'll gladly take her and use her well I'd love to get a group of young folks and train them to sail around here.
Fair weather and following winds, my friend !
Capt ScubaDave
'77 Com-Pac 16 PH #278 Type 1 base (currently)
'85 Com-Pac 16 Type 1/2 hybrid #2244 (currently)
#93
Classifieds for Com-pac boats / Re: Com-Pac 16 project boat an...
Last post by fishties - August 22, 2026, 10:47:45 AMThanks to all of you who looked at my posting. The 16 went to a forum member with enthusiasm and plans! I am very happy that this 43-year-old gem was saved from a landfill.
#94
CP-16's / Re: Com-Pac 16 Specifications ...
Last post by CaptScubaDave - August 21, 2026, 08:07:33 PMQuote from: Garyandjoanlee on July 19, 2020, 07:32:23 AMAwesome. Thanks. Does the year of a 16 ll matter?
Yes, the year does seem to matter. I just bought hull 2244, an '85 Type 1/2 hybrid. The hull still has a lazarette and no bowsprit, but inside the hull I have the extra teak wood strips along the inside of the hull and the ceiling liner. The rig is still a 3/4 rig instead of the 7/8 with spreaders. Mine also came with side tracks for jib sheet blocks and cam cleat adjustment, as well as the standard jib and what I would call a drifter genoa. The drifter is a light weight, multicolored sail that should help in light air sailing.
Another twist is that the HIN on the transom added two digits, '16', slightly apart from the required number at the end of that series to indicate the model series hulls. My '77 C-P 16 Pilot House, an aftermarket modification, is hull number 278 and it doesn't have the model ID'd like the later one I just bought. (Yes, I now have two! And, both came with Lehr LP outboards, a 2.5 and a 5.0 hp that I got working very well.)
Capt ScubaDave
#95
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / 30lb Minn Kota C2 Endura follo...
Last post by zfami - August 18, 2026, 09:34:16 PMWhile the 55lb thrust Minn Kota is the way to go for a decent primary motor, the lightweight 30lb thrust Minn Kota is indeed a viable backup...depending on conditions, and a couple of significant upgrades. Clearly the larger MKP-6 prop is mandatory, but for a much better experience I also replaced the 5 speed head with the digital/maximizer head and it's variable throttle. I run a >20lb 100AH lifePo4 battery with an 85 watt solar panel and Victron 75/15 mppt controller to keep it charged up.
The Minn Kota Endura C2 30 is a very light motor that can easily be stored in the lazarette. With the MKP-6 propeller the 5 speed head managed 2.25mph in position 4, pulling 14A. Position 5 pulled 24A and did over 3mph. The real problem is the limitations of the fixed gap between the 2 speeds. The Maximizer/digital head drew 15A and did 2.6mph at 75% throttle and felt much better - and you could go up a bit more as needed to overcome wind and current without going to full power, which if run continuously will probably melt the motor brush plate. The motor seemed to be working very comfortably and sustainably at 75%; while more throttle pulling 16-20A was also fine, the minimal speed improvement(s) did not seem worth it. As expected, at maximum throttle both speed and amp draw was identical for the 5 speed and the digital/maximizer control heads.
So...while not particularly a fan of the standard 5 speed C2's (whether the 55lb or 30lb thrust models), add the digital/maximizer versions (or modified as in the case of the 30lb thrust C2) and IMO you have a reasonable motor to drive our Sun Cats. Add that lightweight 100AH lifePo4 and you've got a solid 10+ mile range.
The Minn Kota Endura C2 30 is a very light motor that can easily be stored in the lazarette. With the MKP-6 propeller the 5 speed head managed 2.25mph in position 4, pulling 14A. Position 5 pulled 24A and did over 3mph. The real problem is the limitations of the fixed gap between the 2 speeds. The Maximizer/digital head drew 15A and did 2.6mph at 75% throttle and felt much better - and you could go up a bit more as needed to overcome wind and current without going to full power, which if run continuously will probably melt the motor brush plate. The motor seemed to be working very comfortably and sustainably at 75%; while more throttle pulling 16-20A was also fine, the minimal speed improvement(s) did not seem worth it. As expected, at maximum throttle both speed and amp draw was identical for the 5 speed and the digital/maximizer control heads.
So...while not particularly a fan of the standard 5 speed C2's (whether the 55lb or 30lb thrust models), add the digital/maximizer versions (or modified as in the case of the 30lb thrust C2) and IMO you have a reasonable motor to drive our Sun Cats. Add that lightweight 100AH lifePo4 and you've got a solid 10+ mile range.
#96
Classifieds for Com-pac boats / WTB: Com-Pac Legacy
Last post by passagesfromtheheart - August 18, 2026, 08:26:35 PMHi, CPYOA friends!
I'm posting on behalf of my new Com-Pac friends who are searching for a Com-Pac Legacy (I decided to keep mine) -- here is their post:
Looking for a Com-pac 16 Legacy, less than 10 years old. Preferably in the northeast but will arrange shipping for the right boat. Contact pcorbettvt@gmail.com
Let's help them find their dream Legacy!
Fair winds!
I'm posting on behalf of my new Com-Pac friends who are searching for a Com-Pac Legacy (I decided to keep mine) -- here is their post:
Looking for a Com-pac 16 Legacy, less than 10 years old. Preferably in the northeast but will arrange shipping for the right boat. Contact pcorbettvt@gmail.com
Let's help them find their dream Legacy!
Fair winds!
#97
CP-16's / Re: Tell me what I got:
Last post by Swampbuckster - August 18, 2026, 07:49:34 PMSome pics of the current state of the boat. I am a bit humored with my ignorance on all of these issues and then taking it on a big water adventure, only to bring it home and discover all of the reasons I maybe shouldn't of taken it on a trip like that! But I must say, she handled it like a champ and it's made me want to bring her back to full life.
I gotta say this is like posting pictures like back in 2005. Phew!
So I believe most of the water damage on the interior of the boat was due to water intrusion through the cabin hatch. It saddens me to think someone would do such a thing but over the course of 47 years of life, it's hard to say what the boats gone through.
There was a mixture of rain water and mouse urine (lovely smell btw) below the mast post bulkhead/storage area and at the back of the boat in the lazarette. I was able to remove all of the mixture and things have stayed dry since. From my undersatanding, there are no structural support stringers below the quarter berths. The two main bulkheads are the "H" shaped one beneath the cockpit floor, and the mast post bulkhead.
I have also noticed water leaking from the outer corner of the keel, exactly over the front trailer bunk. This is a slow drip and I'm not sure how much water can actually end up in this area because the boat has sat in the water moored all of last summer and most of this until recently wihtout any issues.
The mast post bulkhead is relatively solid at this point, based on my probing a bit ago. There is a small area that is a soft spot but overall the strutural integrity seems to be sound still.
So yes, I've owned the boat and have sailed it on my inland lake for a season and a half. It wasn't meant to be the next boat project (wife is already giving me the stinkeye) but after sailing the Compac for a three overnight and three day trip on some bigger waters, I have fell in love with the simplicity and user friendliness of the boat. I've previously owned a West Wight Potter 19' but the thing sailed like a battleship, the cabin despite being larger, was like moving around in a crawlspace below a house, and was just an overall pain to setup and takedown the rigging compared to the Compac.
I am not a fiberglass specialists, but I feel the boats hull and deck is overall in pretty good shape. I think it's worth the time, money, and energy to restore the boat and add it to my fleet.
Based on my findings and some thoughts I've already had on the subject, the list of to do's is as follows:
1. Either drill and drain then repair the keel but I like the idea of removing the keel ballast concrete, repairing the keel, then replacing the ballast concrete with new. - The keel crack looks to be perhaps a freeze/thaw incident and not impact related. From the pictures, it was potentially "repaired" before"
2. Remove all of the existing quarter berth pads and structure, along with the bulkhead beneath the cockpit, replace all with new marine grade
3. Sand the hull and topsides of the boat and repaint- anything but white.
4. Remove the flaking cabin paint along the ceiling and either panel or coat with something different.
5. Either re-enforce the mast post bulkhead or replace it all entirely.
So anyone who has deep dived into a Compac, for a competent handyman type like myself with no fiberglass skills, what advice may you have for me?
Find a different boat!?
I gotta say this is like posting pictures like back in 2005. Phew!
So I believe most of the water damage on the interior of the boat was due to water intrusion through the cabin hatch. It saddens me to think someone would do such a thing but over the course of 47 years of life, it's hard to say what the boats gone through.
There was a mixture of rain water and mouse urine (lovely smell btw) below the mast post bulkhead/storage area and at the back of the boat in the lazarette. I was able to remove all of the mixture and things have stayed dry since. From my undersatanding, there are no structural support stringers below the quarter berths. The two main bulkheads are the "H" shaped one beneath the cockpit floor, and the mast post bulkhead.
I have also noticed water leaking from the outer corner of the keel, exactly over the front trailer bunk. This is a slow drip and I'm not sure how much water can actually end up in this area because the boat has sat in the water moored all of last summer and most of this until recently wihtout any issues.
The mast post bulkhead is relatively solid at this point, based on my probing a bit ago. There is a small area that is a soft spot but overall the strutural integrity seems to be sound still.
So yes, I've owned the boat and have sailed it on my inland lake for a season and a half. It wasn't meant to be the next boat project (wife is already giving me the stinkeye) but after sailing the Compac for a three overnight and three day trip on some bigger waters, I have fell in love with the simplicity and user friendliness of the boat. I've previously owned a West Wight Potter 19' but the thing sailed like a battleship, the cabin despite being larger, was like moving around in a crawlspace below a house, and was just an overall pain to setup and takedown the rigging compared to the Compac.
I am not a fiberglass specialists, but I feel the boats hull and deck is overall in pretty good shape. I think it's worth the time, money, and energy to restore the boat and add it to my fleet.
Based on my findings and some thoughts I've already had on the subject, the list of to do's is as follows:
1. Either drill and drain then repair the keel but I like the idea of removing the keel ballast concrete, repairing the keel, then replacing the ballast concrete with new. - The keel crack looks to be perhaps a freeze/thaw incident and not impact related. From the pictures, it was potentially "repaired" before"
2. Remove all of the existing quarter berth pads and structure, along with the bulkhead beneath the cockpit, replace all with new marine grade
3. Sand the hull and topsides of the boat and repaint- anything but white.
4. Remove the flaking cabin paint along the ceiling and either panel or coat with something different.
5. Either re-enforce the mast post bulkhead or replace it all entirely.
So anyone who has deep dived into a Compac, for a competent handyman type like myself with no fiberglass skills, what advice may you have for me?
Find a different boat!?
#98
CP-16's / Re: Tell me what I got:
Last post by Swampbuckster - August 18, 2026, 06:39:15 PMI appreciate the not using treated lumber tip. That's an obvious one a lot of people lean towards. I have some decent aluminum boat overhaul knowledge and have re-decked pontoons, and back three years ago pretty much bought two 18' Starcraft Super Sports, a 1982 and a 1979 and restored the 1979 from hull up, including rivet replacements, topside hull paint, flooring, seats, etc.. Also tore down the 1982 Mercruiser 2.5 and rebuilt it, putting that and the 82's sterndrive into the 1979. I'll post some pics of that process if interested! I have not performed much of any repairs or have worked with fiberglass but I understand the concept. I ended up pulling some pictures off my phone and downloaded them to my laptop of the Compac of some more serious inspecting of the project I am about to take on. I'll get them posted up here in a bit.
#99
Horizon Cats and Horizon Day Cats / Re: beefed-up bob stay on a HC
Last post by alsantini - August 18, 2026, 11:54:04 AMShould be a piece of cake. Most HC's that I have seen have replaced it already. The bend that you see is to compensate for the variable length of the stay. Personally, if I were to replace it, I would trim it to the required length so it is straight rather then bend it slightly, as the installer on my boat did. Once trimmed, it would take ten minutes to install with usual hand tools. Sail On AL
#100
Com-Pac Sailors Lounge / Re: No Evening Sail
Last post by Swampbuckster - August 18, 2026, 10:05:41 AMThe dreaded "Evening Sail"
So exciting when it all comes together, too often left depressed and windless.
So exciting when it all comes together, too often left depressed and windless.