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#21
CP-16's / Re: Bulkhead replacement mater...
Last post by Mike16 - September 18, 2025, 01:11:25 PMBefore cutout
#22
Com-Pac Sailors Lounge / Re: Broken Promise
Last post by Christopher - September 17, 2025, 09:52:12 PMI finally made it out yesterday after a long period of no sailing. Windfinder on Sunday showed a max 12 MPH wind forecast for yesterday (Tuesday). On Monday Windfinder now forecasted a max 8 MPH winds for Tuesday. I thought that would be alright I'd still be sailing but was disappointed. Tuesday morning arrived and I pulled the Suncat out of the barn and start preparing for the trip to the lake. While preparing I stop and look at the trees and see absolutely no movement at all. I stop and check Windfinder and now it shows max 5 MPH. I was taking a friend with me and I decided to go no matter what. Got to the lake and in the water. Raised the sail and motored out to the middle of the lake. Shut the motor off and had a nice lunch and good conversation. After eating we slowly motored the length of the lake while being teased by the wind picking up enough to shut the motor off. Then after shutting the motor off the wind would die off. It was warm but low humidity and there was hardly anyone around. A nice peaceful day but no wind.
My friend summed the day up nicely when she said. "Not much wind but maybe we needed a chill out day".
My friend summed the day up nicely when she said. "Not much wind but maybe we needed a chill out day".
#23
Com-Pac Sailors Lounge / Re: Broken Promise
Last post by crazycarl - September 17, 2025, 07:56:42 PMAfter dinner I looked outside and the CYOA pennant was flying so I climbed aboard, raised the main, let out the genoa and slowly sailed out of the cove. I made it about a half mile when the winds, laughing at me no doubt, decided to call it a day. Putting the sails away I started the o/b and headed in.
Well, I gave it a shot.
Well, I gave it a shot.
#24
Com-Pac Sailors Lounge / Broken Promise
Last post by crazycarl - September 17, 2025, 05:13:38 PMWith Joanie in Chicago for the week, I promised myself a full day of sailng. Maybe even a multi-day sail. I'll explore a new creek, island, or head north into New Bern for a night. After waking at 4am Monday to drive her to the airport, I returned home for a short nap, only to wake to a day of rain. So, Tuesday it is then. Yesterday had 15-20mph winds with gusts to 30 so that's a no go. Checking the weather forecast last night, today would be the day!
After a quick breakfast I placed a cooler with waters and a sandwich, not in the cooler, in the cabin and went to retrieve my camera and wallet. Once back in the house I remembered I needed to finish fixing the dents in the wall from moving a table upstairs. With that complete, I set out to go sailing. Passing through the garage I saw the tools and hadware left out to complete the maintenance on the Orion's water tanks, so off I went to do that. As I approached the boat, a neighbor was coming in so I helped him dock and we got to talking. An hour later I started working on the water tanks. While doing this I saw a Sunday Cat sailing up the creek and remembered the promise to myself. Once the Orion was squared away I returned home only to look out at the glass like surface of the water. Okay, maybe it's only the creek. I'll check the webcams view of the river. Nope, calm there too. Friday is a guys night out with dinner and a comedy show, so an all day sail is out. Maybe a half day. Saturday I pick Joanie up at the airport, so 🤞 the wind cooperates and I keep my promise tomorrow.
After a quick breakfast I placed a cooler with waters and a sandwich, not in the cooler, in the cabin and went to retrieve my camera and wallet. Once back in the house I remembered I needed to finish fixing the dents in the wall from moving a table upstairs. With that complete, I set out to go sailing. Passing through the garage I saw the tools and hadware left out to complete the maintenance on the Orion's water tanks, so off I went to do that. As I approached the boat, a neighbor was coming in so I helped him dock and we got to talking. An hour later I started working on the water tanks. While doing this I saw a Sunday Cat sailing up the creek and remembered the promise to myself. Once the Orion was squared away I returned home only to look out at the glass like surface of the water. Okay, maybe it's only the creek. I'll check the webcams view of the river. Nope, calm there too. Friday is a guys night out with dinner and a comedy show, so an all day sail is out. Maybe a half day. Saturday I pick Joanie up at the airport, so 🤞 the wind cooperates and I keep my promise tomorrow.
#25
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Bow sprit sun cat
Last post by Eddie C - September 17, 2025, 08:57:20 AMSounds great! Let us know how it works out.
Eddie C
Eddie C
#26
CP-16's / Re: Bulkhead replacement mater...
Last post by Mike16 - September 15, 2025, 10:18:11 PMNot going to separate hull and deck so the limitation on what will fit through companionway is just under 29". Planning on making 2 pieces of the horizontal bulkhead as below. Internal forward deck I'm not sure the correct term. I will also plan an access panel but not sure the size or location. The original had a quite nice large opening right in the center. The new one will need be much smaller want it at least the size of an PFD, not that I should store them there but maybe an anchor and rode hatch.
Any suggestions or comments appreciated.
Any suggestions or comments appreciated.
#27
Horizon Cats and Horizon Day Cats / Re: Cut out in the mast - is t...
Last post by bruce - September 14, 2025, 08:24:55 PMIf the clamp idea was just your guess, he may have done it as a mast gate. The sail slugs and gooseneck slides are easily removed by removing the hinge pivot bolts and lifting the mast off the stub. No need for a mast gate.
There isn't a lot of stress on the stub. It can be welded of course. Damage to the mast track is common on the Com-Pac catboats when the mast is lowered without the spars and sail below the hinge. Com-Pac sold repair bars that would reinforce damaged areas, affixed with machine screws. Pretty marginal, but it helps. You could do something like that if you were concerned. Welding would be better.
This thread mentions the repair plates, reply #6. As you can see, nothing fancy.
https://cpyoa.com/forum/index.php?topic=8993.msg66877#msg66877
I wouldn't pass on the boat if it was otherwise good. Again, I'd be most concerned about what other bad ideas he implemented.
There isn't a lot of stress on the stub. It can be welded of course. Damage to the mast track is common on the Com-Pac catboats when the mast is lowered without the spars and sail below the hinge. Com-Pac sold repair bars that would reinforce damaged areas, affixed with machine screws. Pretty marginal, but it helps. You could do something like that if you were concerned. Welding would be better.
This thread mentions the repair plates, reply #6. As you can see, nothing fancy.
https://cpyoa.com/forum/index.php?topic=8993.msg66877#msg66877
I wouldn't pass on the boat if it was otherwise good. Again, I'd be most concerned about what other bad ideas he implemented.
#28
Horizon Cats and Horizon Day Cats / Re: Cut out in the mast - is t...
Last post by soulsail - September 14, 2025, 07:44:51 PMThis cutout is done below the boom hinge. I don't fully understand the reasoning behind this cutout, but regardless the risk of stress cracks is high at these sharp cut edges. Maybe it can be salvaged by smoothing the edges and welding... but so unfortunate. I wished a professional was asked to do this work or better not done at all on an otherwise nice boat.
#29
Horizon Cats and Horizon Day Cats / Re: Cut out in the mast - is t...
Last post by bruce - September 14, 2025, 06:57:14 PMNot sure what you understand as "too low". Is this below the hinge, and the boom, sail, and gaff, can be can still be stowed on the mast stub before lowering the mast as required, or something to hold the boom up to a height when sailing? Neither is needed, or could be accomplished much less invasively if someone felt it necessary. I think the mast is probably still serviceable, my bigger concern is what else has he done? His workmanship is garbage.
#30
Horizon Cats and Horizon Day Cats / Cut out in the mast - is this ...
Last post by soulsail - September 14, 2025, 12:21:54 PMI'm considering a Horizon. It's an otherwise nice boat but the current owner has made a cutout in the mast (see picture attached), apparently to install a clamp to prevent the boom from dropping too low.
The cut does not look professionally done and has rough, sharp edges. There could be potential for stress concentration zones around it when mast is under loads.
Any thoughts on such a cut and if I should pass on this boat due to this issue? Appreciate any help.
The cut does not look professionally done and has rough, sharp edges. There could be potential for stress concentration zones around it when mast is under loads.
Any thoughts on such a cut and if I should pass on this boat due to this issue? Appreciate any help.