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#21
Com-Pac Sailors Lounge / Finally Going Cruising
Last post by crazycarl - March 30, 2025, 09:52:18 AMChris and I had planned to sail the Keys for 6 weeks this winter, but a surgery, 6 week recovery, and a funeral delayed the trip to April 17th. A date we judged too late. So, he will be trailering his Suncat to my house where we will start our voyage. As of now we are thinking of heading out of Oriental to Hubucken where we will spend the night on a creek off the Pamlico River. From there we will sail on to Washington and utilize the free docks. Once we're asked to leave we'll head to Bath and cause enough trouble they'll think Edward Teach has returned. After they run us out, we head up the Alligator River and on to Elizabeth City where we will once again take advantage of the free docks. When they have had enough of us, and if they hadn't called ahead, we'll try our luck in Kitty Hawk. At this point we will surely need to sneak into Manteo under the cover of darkness. After ditching our disguises, we'll need to hide in a less populated area like Ocracoke, the Outer Banks, Lookout Lighthouse, and the uninhabited Shackleford Banks until the "heat" cools off. With luck we'll visit Fort Macon, where no doubt one of us will end up in a cell, Beaufort, and then up Adams Creek and home.
Without many places to seek refuge along the banks, our itinerary may change due to weather and time restraints, but so far this is the plan. I will try to post our progress, or lack of, for everyone to criticize and leave suggestions after we make those embarrassing mistakes. (i may even capture some of them on the go-pro)
If we stop in your town along our route, don't be put off by our rickety boats, lack of sailing prowess, strange dress, unshaven faces, or fermented breath. Buy us a beer and we'll consider you our friends. We may even allow you to be in a photo with us! What more could one ask for?
Without many places to seek refuge along the banks, our itinerary may change due to weather and time restraints, but so far this is the plan. I will try to post our progress, or lack of, for everyone to criticize and leave suggestions after we make those embarrassing mistakes. (i may even capture some of them on the go-pro)
If we stop in your town along our route, don't be put off by our rickety boats, lack of sailing prowess, strange dress, unshaven faces, or fermented breath. Buy us a beer and we'll consider you our friends. We may even allow you to be in a photo with us! What more could one ask for?
#22
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by bruce - March 29, 2025, 07:42:57 PMYeah, I was thinking of Jim when I posted that. I'm not sure exactly where you'd want to install a deck plate for access, and if that's on a curved portion of the cockpit coaming. Simpler on the PC, since the coaming is flat. I plan on installing a larger rectangular deck plate if I need to access that area again.
You could (very carefully!) cut out a section of the cockpit coaming and use that as the hatch too close things up. The corners, which should be curved, would be tough but doable. You could glass a flange on the backside on the coaming to fasten your new hatch. But, you already have the tiller horn, the only issue there is the sealant used. Com-Pac generally uses less than 5200, I think. They could advise. In the end, I'd probably try to remove the horn, and wonder why they didn't think about accessing the area for maintenance.
No need to use a polyurethane sealant to mount the new hatch, or tiller horn. It's not underwater unless you've got bigger problems. I like butyl tape, should work fine here.
You could (very carefully!) cut out a section of the cockpit coaming and use that as the hatch too close things up. The corners, which should be curved, would be tough but doable. You could glass a flange on the backside on the coaming to fasten your new hatch. But, you already have the tiller horn, the only issue there is the sealant used. Com-Pac generally uses less than 5200, I think. They could advise. In the end, I'd probably try to remove the horn, and wonder why they didn't think about accessing the area for maintenance.
No need to use a polyurethane sealant to mount the new hatch, or tiller horn. It's not underwater unless you've got bigger problems. I like butyl tape, should work fine here.
#23
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by Jim in TC - March 29, 2025, 04:39:21 PMQuote from: dbybe on March 29, 2025, 11:46:55 AM" Some have removed the tiller horn to access the transom area. Don't know if that would help in your case."
Bruce, are you talking about the opening in the transom that the tiller passes through? Yesterday I took out all the screws but the fiberglass liner in this opening is really bonded to the transom. I was afraid of destroying it in the process of removing it.
I have had that out (a couple of gudgeon bolts would not tighten)...as I recall it was a lot of trouble, but persistence with a sharp knife around the edges carried the day. I will have it off again to replace boom gallows stncions in a couple weeks, if you are still at it then, with an update if needed.
#24
Legacy and Legacy Sport / trolling motor?
Last post by Zach Selden - March 29, 2025, 01:29:13 PMDoes anyone use an electric trolling motor with their Legacy? At least in theory, it seems a 55 lbs. thrust trolling motor should be able to move a Legacy at 3-4 knots. I generally sail in lakes so not fighting currents. I currently have a Honda 2.3 hp outboard, but its has wild mood swings and am looking for something more reliable.
#25
CP-16's / Re: Reefing by rolling the boo...
Last post by soilgod - March 29, 2025, 01:06:17 PMYes, but has some limitations. First, if you have a boom vang, it needs to be detached.
I assume you have a Dywer roller gooseneck fitting on the mast end of the boom. That does allow you to roll main on boom. Need to detach topping lift (boom lift) if you don't have it on the back of boom tang to mainsheet block. Rolling the sail is possible, especially when confronted by higher winds and you have to go. If the Main has a bolt rope run up the mast groove, the reef will be a little sloppy but possible. Note that the sail shape will be different on port and starboard tacks. And it will be difficult to operate the outhaul. If you have slug slides on the main, it will roll a bit smoother.
Hope this makes sense. Maybe ask Santa for a new Main with reefing grommets and slug slides.
I assume you have a Dywer roller gooseneck fitting on the mast end of the boom. That does allow you to roll main on boom. Need to detach topping lift (boom lift) if you don't have it on the back of boom tang to mainsheet block. Rolling the sail is possible, especially when confronted by higher winds and you have to go. If the Main has a bolt rope run up the mast groove, the reef will be a little sloppy but possible. Note that the sail shape will be different on port and starboard tacks. And it will be difficult to operate the outhaul. If you have slug slides on the main, it will roll a bit smoother.
Hope this makes sense. Maybe ask Santa for a new Main with reefing grommets and slug slides.
#26
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by dbybe - March 29, 2025, 11:57:46 AMQuote from: crazycarl on March 28, 2025, 10:23:39 PMThis will sound hill billy-ish. Can you access it enough to spray "flex seal"? I lent a can of the stuff to a friend. He used it on his aluminum fishing boat. A 6" seam was leaking and it worked great. It's been about 10 years with no leaking.
That sounds like a good solution but I would have trouble getting all around the pipe. I can just barely touch it through a 6" access plate I added at the boom gallows support.
#27
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by dbybe - March 29, 2025, 11:55:17 AMA couple of days ago I sleeved the drain hole with plastic tubing, bedded in sealant, but am still getting a leak here. It may be that the inboard end still needs a better seal, but it is also hard to get at. I may add an access plates, just above it, in the seat. The boat is beginning to look like Swiss cheese with all the access plates to help resolve it. The best solution would be to seal the existing pipe if possible.
#28
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by dbybe - March 29, 2025, 11:46:55 AM" Some have removed the tiller horn to access the transom area. Don't know if that would help in your case."
Bruce, are you talking about the opening in the transom that the tiller passes through? Yesterday I took out all the screws but the fiberglass liner in this opening is really bonded to the transom. I was afraid of destroying it in the process of removing it.
Bruce, are you talking about the opening in the transom that the tiller passes through? Yesterday I took out all the screws but the fiberglass liner in this opening is really bonded to the transom. I was afraid of destroying it in the process of removing it.
#29
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by bruce - March 29, 2025, 06:28:58 AMSome have removed the tiller horn to access the transom area. Don't know if that would help in your case.
Sloppy glass work around short lengths of hard-to-access rigid pipe is the norm here, plus epoxy doesn't bond well to PVC. One would expect some flexing between the hull and the cockpit casting, good place for barbed fittings and flexible tubing.
Sloppy glass work around short lengths of hard-to-access rigid pipe is the norm here, plus epoxy doesn't bond well to PVC. One would expect some flexing between the hull and the cockpit casting, good place for barbed fittings and flexible tubing.
#30
Sun Cats and Sunday Cats / Re: Access to fuel locker pipe
Last post by crazycarl - March 28, 2025, 10:23:39 PMThis will sound hill billy-ish. Can you access it enough to spray "flex seal"? I lent a can of the stuff to a friend. He used it on his aluminum fishing boat. A 6" seam was leaking and it worked great. It's been about 10 years with no leaking.