Com-Pac Yacht Owners Association

It's fall and winter is not too far behind. CBMWG 2.0 is soon to be on the radar. Stay tuned. Meanwhile fall sailing is in full swing!  :)

The particulars that fleshed out after almost 4 months of much lead up from this start!

When-    2/11/17    12:30
Where-   https://www.rroysters.com/restaurants/merroir
What-     Food, drink, fellowship

I am on the fence on the Annapolis Boat show.  Anyone else thinking of it?

I'm also on the fence about Annapolis. If I go, it'd be on Saturday. But...not on the fence about CBMWG version 2.0! I'll stay tuned...
Bob23...I can taste the Guinness now!

Lesa and I are definately headed to the boat show, making a weekend of it. :)

Quote from: K3v1n on September 29, 2016, 06:32:09 AM
Lesa and I are definately headed to the boat show, making a weekend of it. :)

Ah Kevin, a dangerous endeavor for a someone who has announced the desire for another boat! Fun town but gunna be crazy busy as in addition to the boat show it is a home football game weekend for the Naval Academy. Leave your checkbook at home though, have fun!

Keep us posted on the boat search. Recently added CP27 up your neck of the woods.

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/61306

I saw this 27 but dang it, the 23  is such a pretty boat!

Agreed! So good under sail as well. We all owe many thanks to Clarkie for his timeless and capable designs.  :)

Wading ashore for lunch yesterday reminded me that CBMWG 2.0 is coming. The water temp has dropped onto the upper 60's. What a great stretch of weather this week.

Congrats to Kevin for his new to him Alberg if all goes well. Sheeze it was tough enough trying to find a 16 for me, now i gotta find two more. Bob and Kevin. It's where all of this Compac stuff got started!

Stay tuned........

  I'll  be keeping a close eye on this event. I don't need much of excuse to enjoy a few cold ones with some like minded, slightly left of center sailors! I also am excited about Kev finding a new and larger sailboat. Lord knows he's looked far and wide and has the most patient and supportive wife this side of the moon!
  Maybe we should start naming these events, like the way hurricanes are named. Any suggestions???  :)
Bob23...in need of a Guinness!!! Bad!!!

Which Alberg is Kevin trying to get?

Be sure to check out the Alberg site as there is a lot of information out there on them.

Quote from: HeaveToo on October 19, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
Which Alberg is Kevin trying to get?

Be sure to check out the Alberg site as there is a lot of information out there on them.

A Cape Dory 26. Very active CDYOA. We just gotta convince him he needs a CP16 as well for those road trips and days when just the act of sailing is what ya need!

As far as this topic goes.......was thinking bout Willabys in White Stone. Kinda central to the bay, water side, good menu, great draft selection.  http://www.willabys.com/cafe/index.htm

Might even be able to talk Pedro into bringing his tug since the rest of us will prob be done with the sailing thing.. :)

Meester Mas: Do you have any dates in mind?

Quote from: Bob23 on October 19, 2016, 06:21:17 PM
Meester Mas: Do you have any dates in mind?

Just Susan.......oh you mean when?

Was kinda thinkin mid winterish, thus CBMWG! Holidays are always too full, so Januaryish. Know there is also a broader gathering about the same time so wish to be mindful of such and hopefully get there this year! So how about same time as last year? Wish I could remember when that was. Just remember a good time.  :)

You been getting out with this spectacular stretch of weather? Had a nice evening with Pedro and Becky last weekend. They had been up to Corrotoman.

Yeah, numerical kind of dates. Got out into the bay on Sunday to witness the full moon rising. Fantastic! I love being on the water in the dark.
Yeah...now I got the MW part. Maybe you guys can plan to arrive up here for the 5th Annual Mid Winter Gathering of the East Coast Compac-o-nauts. Stay tuned!!!
Bob23

Susan and I were up on Interlude's foredeck watching that same moon rise. You're right, it was spectacular.

Well it appears we had CBMWG 1.0 on January 30, a Saturday afternoon. The closest Saturday to that this year would be 1/28/17. Let it be written as so to start the discussion!

So let it be written...so let it be done.

The date is out for me, Vicki and I will be basking in the Caribbean sunlight about then.  How about  02/11/17?

Quote from: Tim Gardner on October 20, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
The date is out for me, Vicki and I will be basking in the Caribbean sunlight about then.  How about  02/11/17?

I personally wish to have at least the first gathering's suspects and hopefully a few more partners in crime attending this year. I certainly am open to finding a date (other than Susan!) that works for everyone.  A single design class series is on my mind to discuss over libations, food and friends. Let the games begin!

Golly who ordered up this weather!!!

OBTW Tim, if you take all of us along, the change in date will be easier! Glad to hear you guys are getting away.  :)

I am definitely watching this.

FYI...I think that we need to select the place based on beer!  LOL.  Bob can all buy us a round of Edmond Fitzgerald!

Quote from: HeaveToo on October 21, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
I am definitely watching this.

FYI...I think that we need to select the place based on beer!  LOL.  Bob can all buy us a round of Edmond Fitzgerald!

Hey Heave, check the Willaby's link in my previous post. 24 Taps! Was one of the must haves when i was thinking about a location. Being on the water was another. Can't have a bunch of sailors together without water nearby!

We are pretty flexible on dates and it is still pretty far away. We definitely need to get Bob and Kevin back down, Who knows maybe even with their respective better halves. Peter and Becky i am sure will wish to come. Tim will need to reacclimatize himself after a trip to lower attitudes but I am sure we can help with that! Let's round up some more!

The fellow that sold me our little 16, with our encouragement for his wife, has pulled the trigger on getting a Catalina 30. It was a tall rig, wing keel model. Know you had a 30 once before. Bring your wife and we will work on her as well. Susan is actually the one who seems to have the magic when talking folks into boats!

I wish you could but I think that my wife is a lost cause.

The Catalina 30 is a great boat.  Which model is it. MKi, MKii, or MKiii? 

Mine was the MKii.  Great boat but there are a few things that need to be checked on immediately that a surveyor may not know about.  There is a wire harness kit for the starter that needs to be done (if not it could cause a fire).  The other big one on the MKii is the mast step.  Catalina got really smart in the MKii and went from a wooden compression post that was in the MKi to a metal compression post in the MKii.  That was a great improvement BUT Catalina put a block of wood in the bilge for the compression post to sit on.  This bock of wood is made out of oak and it will rot after time.  Water will eventually get to it.  The fix means taking the HUGE mast down, cut out the fiberglass in the area near the block, front of the bilge, and replace the block.  The block can be bought from Catalina.  I miss my old boat badly and I am not sure how much longer I can stay with the 23 because it is so small based on what I am use to.

I am all for another meeting.  One of these days we all have to meet out on the water!

Well bring her anyway! Like i said, Susan is the one who can get reticent spouses on board! She's batting 1000 so far.  :)

As far as getting a larger boat goes, prices are good, boat loans dirt cheap to get, count as second homes, yada yada.
Having a real place to stay that also just happens to sail has been huge for us. I loved No Mas but not for Susan's needs. Her stress is my stress. We just celebrated our 37th wedding anniversary yesterday, because we have learned to listen to the others needs.

Thanx for the info on the Catalina 30. Will share it with the fellow getting one.

I know every square inch of the Catalina 30 after owning it for 8 years.  I would be glad to ask any questions that come up.

We will see if I can convince Jackie into coming.

It sure would be nice to have all the Admirals attend this epic event. Someone's got to keep us out of trouble. We shouldn't have to depend on just Susan...it's not fair!!!
Bob23

Quote from: Bob23 on October 21, 2016, 07:16:28 PM
It sure would be nice to have all the Admirals attend this epic event. Someone's got to keep us out of trouble. We shouldn't have to depend on just Susan...it's not fair!!!
Bob23

Um.....It's not me, well maybe a little, who needs the keeping out of trouble. Susan is quite capable of taking it to the next level. We do celebrate anniversary week not just day and we just got back form a winery down the road from us....I was good with one bottle, but that wasn't gunna fly with Susan. I'll bet we can get the girls to join in.  :)

Winds looking good for next few..........

Well if this weather keeps up we may have to call it another summer gathering! Can't believe it will be December soon and boat hauling time again. So Bob, we will be in White Grass the first full weekend in December for the Jack Frost party. Hard to believe but it will soon be time to think about XC skiing! How's that 16 coming?!

No 16 yet but out on a fine Sunday afternoon sail today showing off! Koinonia must love this fall wind because she performed beautifully! As always.
Still keeping my eye out for a 16 but now I'm more concentrating on fall and winter prep. Hopefully we'll get snow this winter or I may need to travel to get some cross country in.
Bob23

Quote from: Tim Gardner on October 20, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
The date is out for me, Vicki and I will be basking in the Caribbean sunlight about then.  How about  02/11/17?

Golly it is sure hard to think about winter with this weather but the reality of this is that Interlude will be out of the water by December and we will be in West Virginia the first weekend for a big XC ski bash! Tim suggested 2/11/17 and that can work for us, shall we set this up as the date?

Check out the previous posts for the Willabys location as it seems to meet the prerequisites of on the water, central bay location, reasonable and varied menu, oh and many taps!

Let's get the admirals on board this year so Susan and Becky have some camaraderie other than us dudes!  (Not that Susan and Becky can't hold their own with such!) We are looking forward to Tim's li,err sailing stories, Kevin and Lesa's new boat pics, Pedro and Becky's tales of the lone Ranger (tug), Heave's sagas of Saga, and Bob's presentation of the revised dues (beer) schedule involved with all of this boat shifting! Let's get some new faces as well that had indicated an interest in the summer gathering. You out there Dave, Larry, others?

Heading back to the boat after this election thing is done, maybe to prepare it for leaving the country!

2/11/17 is good. Although I'm scheduled to chair a global peace summit with our new president and Putin that day, I'll just tell them something more important came up.
Bob23

" 2/11/17 is good. Although I'm scheduled to chair a global peace summit with our new president and Putin that day, I'll just tell them something more important came up.
Bob23 "

Best to sit at the chair of the victor.

Craig Weis

Quote from: Craig Weis on November 07, 2016, 10:47:48 AM

" 2/11/17 is good. Although I'm scheduled to chair a global peace summit with our new president and Putin that day, I'll just tell them something more important came up.
Bob23 "

Best to sit at the chair of the victor.

Craig Weis

best to sit at the chair closest to the taps!   :)

2/11/17 now has three votes as the date for the CBMWG 2.0 epic gathering. I'm hearing Tim, Bob23 and Mas.

According to my future cast of my schedule I am off that day.  I will be planning to attend to now, barring anything crazy.

Lately it has been crazy.  I did 20+ hours of Overtime in the past two weeks.  This included teaching a General Instructor Development course at the Regional Police Academy, organizing and training everyone for the annual departmental firearms training and qualifications, writing two squads worth of evaluations, Field training a new officer, and the normal calls for service. 

Hopefully we can find a good place.  Then we need to make sure that all of the kegs are full because Bob23 has a tendency to finish the kegs of the good beer and leave us to the brew of the Creatons. 

  This is shaping up nicely and I hope that new member Wayne J can attend...so we have someone to stick the bill to!!!!  Regarding Heave's comment about me, I've embarked on a new career: I am now a Trappist Monk so all I do is sit around all day and talk to God while drinking Belgium Ale. Hey, it's a tough job but someone's got to do it!
  Looking forward to 2/11/17.
Father Robert

Darn!!!!  Someone needs to come up with a Brewery on the water with slips.  Oh, they need to brew stuff other than those darn IPA's.  Blah! 

It would be cool to have one in Deltaville.  I would sail down there a heck of a lot more often if that was the case.  I have heard of wineries around the water but no breweries. 

Better yet, have the brewery in an area where you can anchor.  That will keep most of that powerboat crowd out since they don't like anchoring that much!  LOL.  All they would need is a dingy dock and deep water!

Uuh,Bob, that would be Brother Bob Monks aren't priests. I'll just call you Bro.

BroBob...it is! Just don't call me late for happy hour!

Well, i have the date now as 2/11/17.

Tim, you did say that was good for you guys as you will be back from the lower latitudes? So will count you and Vicky as down? The price for moving the date will be souvenirs for all of us from the islands. Bro Bob, will i am sure, suggest bottles of rum for all and i will second that!

Heave, I had suggested Willabys so check them out. On water, mucho beers, varied and modestly priced menu. As far as why few breweries on the water, well it's the water! The major ingredient in beer is water. As most of us are aware the ground water along coasts is, well.......terrible, in short supply or both, thus only larger metro areas with a good water, sewer systems can support any larger scale brewing. The best beers are usually from areas with excellent water to begin with, thus why Colorado led the craft beer movement for many years.

Bro Bob, you are more than welcome to try to empty the kegs at Willabys, they have dozens of taps! I'll be helping as well.  :)

This may be the first week we have not been out sailing since the fall season began.......I dunno, something about needing to vote Tuesday, we play music on Thursday, a brewery beer release party with friends Saturday, and a goodby gathering for a friend heading to Hawaii (yeah i know let's all feel sorry for her!) at a winery on Sunday. Hopefully will get out next week as the season is rapidly becoming winter.......and time for CBMWG 2.0!

Well we did make it out actually several more times but just before Thanksgiving Interlude got most of her cloth removed, Mas, after a last sail, came home with me and now lives on our farm in full view of the Shenandoah National Park, where i am sure she's wondering where all the water went! Spent last few days up in West Virginia and then up on the mountain here where they are blowing snow like crazy (my favorite kind of winterizing!), so wont be long now! Meanwhile it is back to sea level today to finish Interlude's winterizing (not my favorite kind) in preparation for hauling next week. What all this means is......it's now officially the end of sailing season here for us and the beginning of winter season and ever closer to CBMWG 2.0!

Wayne J. and myself might try to hook up down at the 'Rivah', over the next couple, as a sort of pre CBMWG which i guess makes it a CBEWG! One of the discussions we more than likely will be having is the massive fee restructuring and job title reassignments that have been proposed lately on this august forum! So Bob, Tim, et al, we newbs are gunna shake things up, CBMWG 2.0 will be epic! Stay tuned and mark the calendars all.  :)

Ya know what December 21 is right?! Winter begins and the middle of it appears to be around 2/11/17, well actually a little before that but we needed to adjust so Tim can go play in the tropics! So if it is winter, and it is the mid-lish part of it, and on the the Chesapeake Bay, and people gather together for food, fun and fraternity (well sorority too!) and they have done this before then it must be CBMWG 2.0 time!

Mark those calendars, dust off the winter apparel, practice the sailing stories, prepare for a possible shake up in job descriptions and fee structure, and ready yourselves for....well details soon to follow after the solstice! Winter however has not wished to wait till then as it will hit a high temperature of 12 up on the mountain tomorrow.

Happy solstice all, it's now winter and you know what that means.............

See y'all 'bout halfway thru...

I was just mentioning this to the Admiral. She displayed her normal level of enthusiasm which is too say it was just a half a notch above totally ignoring me. Ha!!!!
But I'll be there. I've been reminded lately by a friend how short life is. And if I remember correctly, one of you characters owes me a truckload of Guinness!
Bob23

I was just mentioning this to the Admiral. She displayed her normal level of enthusiasm which is too say it was just a half a notch above totally ignoring me. Ha!!!!

Might be time to turn Susan loose!

And if I remember correctly, one of you characters owes me a truckload of Guinness!


As far as the Guiness truck, might be kinda hard to get the local distributor to give one up for the weekend.......so it looks like we will just have to hi-jack one. Must admit though, just put an Irish dry porter from Champion Brewery on tap, a special holiday brew, 8.2 ABV and way tooooo drinkable. Sure could make a habit of that, thankfully only brewed for the holiday season then gone.

Well still up here on the mountain and not sure what I'm gunna do with all the longer day light hours today!  :)

That beer sounds yummy! Whilst out with the Admiral last Saturday and having lunch at the Smithville Inn, to what didst my eyes appear? But a beer I'd never heard of before. Harviestoun from Scotland "Old Engine Oil" Black Ale. With such an intriguing name, I had to try it and was it ever fantastic! "Viscous, chocolately, roasty" says the label and they weren't kidding. I'd be hard pressed to choose between this and Guinness.
Bob23

CBMWG 2.0 is coming!!!

Date:  2/11/17

Time: up for discussion, see the websites below for hours of operation and menus

Location: I had suggested Willabys as the menu is varied and modestly priced, mucho taps, on the water. Merrior is also right across the river and is an exceptional place to eat, great taps and wine selection, on the water, but can be expensive. It is one of our favorite places to go. I have included both websites for your perusal. Either is just fine with us so would rather let you guys give some input as a result. Spend some time looking and weigh in!


http://www.willabys.com/cafe/index.htm
https://www.rroysters.com/restaurants/merroir

The last CBMWG took place for lunch on a Saturday. We can surely make that happen again or choose dinner. Lunch seemed to be the choice for the daylight hours of driving. If folks wish to make it a weekend there are many things to do around the area. We are planning to spend the night and make a day of it on Sunday as well.

Last years partners in crime included Bob23, Heave Too, Pedro and Becky, Tim G, Kevin, myself and Susan. We are hoping to get some more of the admirals this year as well and will be lobbying for a couple of you that we know are in the area to be seen in public with us. That does mean the end of any respectability but hey a small price to pay! We don't wanna mention any names Citroen Dave, Wayne J., et al, but may be borrowing Bob's cousins to delver the invites! Have also included the follow-up discussion to last years event. Names have been kept the same to identify the guilty!

http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0oj3729pbs2tgsgija483nr004&topic=9200.0

Merry Christmas all!

  While I cannot offer comment on any of the proposed venues suggested by our most highly esteemed host, I can attend to the fact that at the last (first) CBMWG, an incredible time was had by all even though I was unjustly accused of drinking the last of a kind of beer that I don't quite remember. I was tried by a jury of my peers in a court of law of the United States of America, paid off and/or threatened said peers and was promptly acquitted of any wrong doing. So there, ya filthy animals!!
  Looking forward to this gathering...working on the admiral. Maybe I could lie and say we're going to an outlet mall!
Bob23

Hrm....Bob23, I do believe that it was an Edmond Fitzgerald. 

I have now thought more about that situation.  Maybe it is best NOT to be the person who drank the last beer when said beer was named after a ship that sunk, killing the entire crew.  That COULD be bad luck.  LOL

Wow guys, this has been a crazy few months.  To top it off my father had a bad fall about a month ago.  He broke his arm as a result of the fall but that wasn't the big thing.  Because of the fall it was discovered that he had lung cancer.  He also has cancer  on his hip.  The day before Christmas Eve he fell, again, and now he has cracked his hip.  He stubbornly refused to go to the hospital until today.  Today he was admitted into the hospital.

It is too early to see what the prognosis is.

Anyway, I am hoping that things will go okay and I will make the gathering. 

I would ask the host to post okay hotels in the area just in case someone decides to stay. 

Not sure if my wife will make it.  It all depends on her schedule.

  Um... I never looked at it like that, Matt so thank you. Fortunately for all of us, I am not the least bit superstitious.
  I know about dealing with aging parents and I of course will keep you and your dad in my prayers. And I also have firsthand experience with stubborn aging parents. Here's to hoping for the best, in whatever form that best will take. We've dealt with quite sudden departures and the long drawn out ones.
  Hotel posts are welcome so maybe the Chief Instigator of the CBWMG will add a few to this thread.
Bob23

Yeah.....The drinking the last beer was just a quick thought but it seemed amusing.  I do have a superstitious side but I doubt that this would really throw up any red flags.

Older parents is tough.  My Dad, though not tall, was a mountain of a man.  He was tough as nails and was extremely able.  It is hard to watch him at 73 being so frail.  I miss when I was able to go fishing or hunting with my Dad.  Watching your parents get old sucks.

I am looking forward to another Compac gathering.  I hope that we can get some new faces in the mix.  Eventually I would like to get a few of us over to Tangier Island during the summer.

FYI, not all hands went down with the Fitzgerald. One of the crew survives. His name is Rich Wills. He was an engineer on this  ship.  He came down with appendicitis the morning the fitz left port, and was left behind in the hospital. Luck has it's moments.
TG

Just call me Rich!
Heave: It does indeed suck. But loosing them in an instant robs us of the chance to be there through the final days. Count yourself blessed that you can be there. I didn't have that chance with my dad or father in law. Either way, life is not for sissies!

Hey Heave, I m so sorry for your father's situation. We have had both situations with both the sudden and long drawn out deaths of our parents. I am not sure which is easier, though watching the  condition of both my mom and Susan's dad with their dementia robbing them of their humanity before their deaths has led us to believe the sudden death scenario, though maybe more difficult for us, was kinder to the one who passed. Bob's comment on the ability to say goodbye to someone should remind us to be always prepared for someones passing by living fully today as tomorrow is not guaranteed. We must make sure we are ready to live for as Bob's signature states "All men die, few really live."

With that in mind, it is a fact that living requires effort and though it will be a three hour trip for us and longer for many others, the CBMWG 2.0 is about celebrating the connections we have made here by owning these small craft. it was said at last year's event that it is amazing one could just meet someone for the first time yet feel we have known them for a long time. That speaks volumes about the "real" person nature of folks here!

Do take time to review the menus and both venues proposed. Susan and I are good with either. If folks are spending the night then we can do both if ya just can't make up your mind!

As far as places to stay, there are no motels in Deltaville i would recommend but here are a couple closer to the venues proposed and a B&B in Deltaville:

http://pilothouseinn.tripod.com  - Kinda simple simon, sixties feel, inexpensive, friendly staff.
http://www.wpinesmotel.com - more amenities, little nicer, front desk person was rude by phone (go figure)

Harrow House B&B, Deltaville, Va. Located at 167 Lover's Lane, Deltaville, Va. 23043. 804-776-9616 or Cell 804-694-7338

Both Kilmarnock and Urbanna are also near by and have several possibilities.

I have included the website for the museum in Deltaville which is quite nice and worth visiting. We plan to visit though we have been there more than once.
http://www.deltavillemuseum.com

It appears we all will have much to discuss with many changes since last year, but it is nice to know that some things will be the same, as Bob and i will be trying to drink that last beer!

Ok all you Compacteers it is now 1/11. If you add a month what do you get?

I plan to be there, as long as I'm not deported by then.  I will be paying in pesos that I obtained from El Chapo before he was rudely detained.
Wayne ----   "La Dolce Vita" 19 feet of heaven on earth!

Looking forward to it! Better spend those pesos soon, gunna be harder to get them over a wall!  :)

Nice name for your 19ft of heaven! Might wanna look at Tangier as i am sure Heave will be ready to discuss a spring trip there.

Let's see. 1/11 plus one month gives you 2/11. Yep...I got me some educumation, I did!
I'll be there, admiral or no admiral.

As will I.

Awwww Jeeeeez, with all you guys going, I guess I'll have to attend and listen to a bunch of rag-bagger talk!!  Good thing that I can BS with the best of 'em......Bob 23 included. Well, maybe not Bob.

Still deciding on this but leaning towards a yes and with the Admiral! :D

Quote from: peterg on January 12, 2017, 03:39:08 PM
Awwww Jeeeeez, with all you guys going, I guess I'll have to attend and listen to a bunch of rag-bagger talk!!  Good thing that I can BS with the best of 'em......Bob 23 included. Well, maybe not Bob.

Rag Baggers eh....guess it will be the Rag Baggers vs Stink Potters huh?!  Regardless, will be an epic gathering of legends in our own minds.  :)

Well Susan is wondering bout all the other ladies. She is planning to attend, but with the caveat that if all "Bros" then she will stay here and go get in trouble with her girlfriends. The only other undecided issue is where? Pedro knows both places as do we but do check the websites and menus. I would pick Merrior just cuz but Willabys is also a good bet if folks are not into the menu at Merrior which is also a little pricier.

T minus 28 days and counting..........

Oh boy...choices. Do I attend the CBMWG or go get in trouble with Susan's girlfriends. BAM!! Ouch!! Careful Linda. Someone could get hurt with that ax!
I hope Lesa and Becky show up...and I'll work on the Admiral. Usually all it takes is to mention there are antique shops nearby.

A final decision will be made today!

At a quick glance we vote for Willaby's, looking at the menu they seem to have more 'Normal Food'. Merrior seems heavy on seafood and we don't eat Oysters. :D

PS. Unless you guys have more insight on Merrior's menu than I can glean online, it looks like an awesome location. We might be swayed...who has the better beer selection?  ;)

Kev: I believe both Pedro and Rick have been to both.

IT'S OFFICIAL!
Lesa and I are coming down. We have reservations at The Chesapeake Inn in Urbanna!

Ok as far as the bait of antiques for Linda, uh.....we are all antiques as are most of our boats! She will be surrounded by antiques.  :)

Regarding the menus, in particular Merrior: They are a tasting room/restaurant for the Rappahannock Oyster folks so they are heavy into the oysters. The setting is quite nice and the food top notch. Good beer and wine selection. Only grilled no fried food. Willabys is more of a traditional kinda place where most of the seafood is fried but tasty. We clearly go for the seafood at either since we don't live down there. We end up at Merrior mostly if for no other reason we stare at it from our boat so uber convenient and know the staff pretty well now. You aren't going to go wrong with either so we will go with the consensus opinion. They are both close to each other on either side of the Rappahannock 'Rivah' bridge. Maybe Pedro will weigh in. If folks come for the weekend we could hit the restaurant not picked the day before to visit for lunch on Sunday before we drive back.

So Kev lets get you guys to work on Linda, I am NOT going to be the one who has to keep Bob out of trouble. Gunna have enough work keeping Susan out of trouble, well maybe me too!  Cant wait to hear about your new boat. Know Pedro gave you a little guided tour last time you and Bob were down for CBMWG so since down for the weekend you guys should plan to go to the Deltaville Maritime Museum, a great place to visit. We are going on Sunday or possibly after the CBMWG if others wish. We also will be visiting Interlude to check on her while down.

oh...forgot to weigh in on beer selection. Willabys has more taps with over two dozen, however Merrior has many taps (maybe a dozen?) as well and always a good variety of craft beers. Probably the better wine selection of the two but again either is good. The setting at Merrior is pretty spectacular especially with the oyster docks and equipment there to tour. Willabys is also a cool place on the water. We are going for the company, and as mentioned the venues are both nice and we are good with either. Weigh in everyone!

So Tim, you gunna reach out to Citroen Dave? We need to get him out this time. Also don't forget all the bottles of rum for us from your trip to lower latitudes!

Okay we change our vote to Merrior! We also do plan to take in the sights some before we head home on Sunday.

Okay, I've got to weigh in on this quandary over where to eat, drink, and be merry, having sampled every place around here that pretends to serve edible food. Willaby's has a good view and great indoor seating accommodations for a group such as ours......however, they close at 3:00 PM on Saturdays. They serve reasonably good normal food- burgers and such, in quantities that might fill a hard working sailors belly. Merroir has seating on the porch for groups and outdoor seating for when the weather allows. They have great Blueberry soda from Maine. They have a good view out into the Rappahannockk, and there are no flies in the winter. They pride themselves on being a "tasting room" complete with "presentation". As my neighbor critiqued....."tasted great, but I spent ninety bucks and had to stop at Burger King on the way home". I've had several tasty tastings- clam roll, angels on horseback, and lamb 'n' clam- all yummy. No sides. Their burgers are excellent. They are open 11:30 AM to 9:00 PM. There is a third possibility in Urbanna......a place called Something Different, that has a really good Cuban and all sorts of tasty fare, as well as a selection of crafty beers. It is a comfortable venue for our group, but lacks a view, though Bob did seem somewhat entranced by the "view" of our waitress! They are open 10-9.
Another possibility is the Indian Creek Yacht and Country Club, which sounds snootier than it is- our car club is having its annual luncheon there tomorrow. Recently had lunch at the Tides Inn, and the view, service, food, and value were excellent. This place always makes me feel like I've been time-machined to a more genteel time period.
And there are antique shops- there is one in Kilmarnock that you will get lost in!! Hint, hint Linda!!

Oh Boy....Well I leave it up to you guys to decide. We are coming even if it's Burger King! :D

  Choices, choices. I'm glad that Kev and admiral Lesa are attending. Someone should video this epic gathering otherwise no one will believe the stories!
  As far as where, I have no personal knowledge of any of these places although Pedro alleges that I had a view of the waitress! Oh...that place. And that waitress!!! Yes, we could go there!!! Where did we have the first one, where I was unjustly accused of finishing all the beer? I wonder if we invited Rich and Gerry if they could write this whole thing off as a business expense? But what fool would be silly enough to leave sunny Clearwater for chilly NJ?
  I'm game wherever the general populace chooses.
Bob23
 

I will defer to Pedro for the knowledge of the Indian Creek yacht club. don't know a thing about it except the website indicates something about membership. Thought about the Tides Inn and dining room as well but they are now closed for the season effective about a week ago. Eaten at Something Different and the food is indeed good, just not on the water. Merrior is a wonderful place, great view, uber tasty food but Pedro is correct in that you can spend a bunch and leave hungry if not careful. Just like a French restaurant!

As far as Willabys closing at 3 that shouldn't be a problem if we are having lunch, which is what we did last time (we met at 11:30). If we are there same time as last year's rendezvous  three and half hours should give us plenty of time to get in trouble, heck they will throw us out before they close. It does mean an early morning depart for folks coming from warm and balmy NJ. They also are open for dinner from 5-9 I'm kinda thinking that Willabys may be the best overall bet for price, on water, good beer selection, filling. We just have to decide lunch or dinner. We have a three hour trip so lunch is quite doable. It is same distance as last year for us but a bit longer for points North. Could push back meeting time till 12-12:30 which is still plenty of time for gathering.

We love Merrior but as Pedro said can be pricey. They are not as filling cuz not fried and no big sides of hush puppies and such. folks can always go there next day if spending the night. We probably will cuz Susan will insist! I practice saying "yes dear" it seems to work well.  :)

Will call ya Pedro to learn more about the yacht club, don't forget this is the Compac YACHT Owners Association! There are many antique shops around, but i am trying to keep Susan out of them. Oh well if it gets Linda here i guess I will just close my eyes and acquiesce. We are still good with most anywhere but would love to have it on the water since we don't live on any and have great restaurants here, not on the water!

Rick: I need to get some pointers on how to keep the wife out of an antique shop. I swear she can smell them 10 miles away! We do go to some together...cheaper than marriage counseling and way cheaper than a divorce attorney. On a serious note, I doubt she will attend but I have a plan...
Bob23 Bwooohahahahaha!

Will check out ICYCC tomorrow at car club luncheon. I think that the restaurant is open to non-members. I am okay with Willabys or Merroirs- hell, I like rags and stinks!!  I'll report back tomorrow.

Quote from: Bob23 on January 14, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
Rick: I need to get some pointers on how to keep the wife out of an antique shop. I swear she can smell them 10 miles away! We do go to some together...cheaper than marriage counseling and way cheaper than a divorce attorney. On a serious note, I doubt she will attend but I have a plan...
Bob23 Bwooohahahahaha!

Well my friend let me tell you how i do it as i sit in my antique chair, with feet up on the antique stool, having arisen from a nap in the antique bed.........I don't. Your right it is cheaper than either marriage counseling or a divorce. The good news is our home, our cottage, our barn are filled so no more room!!!!!

Guess you could just throw her in the trunk and let her out at an antique store where we will grab her and whisk her away to the gathering. Or maybe not even mention the gathering and say you are taking her down to an antique store......after a gathering, spending the night, enough friends around to keep her on her toes till sleep takes hold and then go by on the way home next day. I will tell Susan about the plan, though it may cost. Oh, finally take a small vehicle, can only fit so much stuff! Pedro and Becky may have a plan as well.

While we wait for Pedro's assessment of the Indian Creek Yacht club, I thought we would give an idea as to typical costs for both Willabys at lunch and Merrior any time. If you assume a couple draft beers, an appetizer at either and a main course (Willabys) and two or three selections per person from Merrior (no sides) including tax and 20% tip you will drop $80ish at Willabys for 2 and $120ish at Merrior for 2. You can clearly spend less or more at either but if you budget the above you will not be surprised.

Susan and I watch our spending and always have, which is why we are able to get a boat(s). With that said, the Charlottesville area, where we call home, has an incredible selection of great restaurants and when we do eat out we watch what we order unless it is a special occasion. Little bits add up. When we travel for special events and occasions we still are mindful of our budget but are also mindful that we do not do this often and thus are more inclined to let the situation dictate the choices and not a daily budget. It seems a shame to travel to new locations and not experience something special. If we lived there, the factors in choosing would be more like what we do here. If it were me, i would look at the reviews, the menus at both and select based on that rather than just cost. As said earlier, you will not be disappointed in either. Hope this helps frame a decision better.

T minus 26 and counting!

please note i amended the above post. See bold print. Had said plus but had figured including. Sorry dain bramage!

Alright here we go....Pedro and I spoke at length and since the Indian Creek Yacht Club folks will not welcome non-members it means either Merrior or Willabys. Either is going to be a good time.

Merrior is a pretty special place with exceptional food and definitely pricier. It also will be a bit more difficult to get seated with a large party as they do not take reservations, there is limited indoor space and they do a good business even in the off season, especially on a weekend. Lunch is definitely easier than dinner for seating and they are open non stop from 11:30 till 9 so easier to pick a time. I do not wish any to feel pinched for budget, as mentioned we watch our spending all the time, yet it is a gem for food, beverage and setting. If a doable price it will provide a memorable time for not just the company we all will bring but the venue as well.

Willabys is more like Dockside as far as menu and pricing. Dockside was where we met last year in Colonial Beach. It also has a great view, less expensive but less memorable for food, though what they serve is quite good. It closes at 3 so we would need to pick an earlier enough time to have sufficient gathering time, which is why we are meeting. It will be easier to seat a larger party because the space is far more expansive.

As you can gather it is not an easy task to pick something that will be best for everyone and there are advantages to both. I had originally suggested Willabys because it was not unlike the Dockside we went to last year, where we had a good time. I know Kevin and Lesa had changed their vote to Merrior. We stand ready to make either place happen and as i mentioned in the earlier post, if we end up at Willabys on Saturday, Susan and I will more than likely go to Merrior on Sunday for a late lunch and coffee before we hit the road for home and others are welcome to join us there if you are staying, which many are. Pedro and Becky and Susan and I are perfectly happy going to either on Saturday. We are looking forward to seeing everyone and the place matters less than the company we will have!  :) If there are no strong opinions either way, Pedro and I will make the decision for all. Ya can't lose on this one!

He and I are already planning CBMSG 2.0!

We see this as a special 'Get-A-Way' for us so we are not that concerned with the cost. I think Merrior mainly because of the time. It's a 5.5 hr ride for us so we are looking at a 12-12:30 arrival. I guess we'll just have to wing it on the seating. :)

PS. I think we'll run out of time at Willaby's.

Quote from: K3v1n on January 15, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
We see this as a special 'Get-A-Way' for us so we are not that concerned with the cost. I think Merrior mainly because of the time. It's a 5.5 hr ride for us so we are looking at a 12-12:30 arrival. I guess we'll just have to wing it on the seating. :)

PS. I think we'll run out of time at Willaby's.

A good point Kevin. I agree we may fell pressed for time if a late start and early end. I am certain Pedro will join me in heading to Merrior a little before arrival times for folks to start the table dance. It simply means we will start the beer before anyone else! Take that Bob!

If you guys don't figure out where we're going, I'm heading to the nearest Wendys!
Still working on the Admiral but as yet I'm dealing with the usual disinterest. It is what it is...I'm used to sailing solo.

Bob, Tell her that this may be the last opportunity for her to meet Vicki before she kills me. I overheard her praying for guidance: "Dear Lord, I know that you so love Tim that you want him by your side. Please show me the way to deliver him to you, and will obey your wish."

A tad disconcerting, and I was worried until I prayed for the Lords help to keep me here so that she wouldn't have keep up or sell the 11 boats I own if he should take me right away.

I then heard her mutter "nevermind!"

TG

Quote from: Bob23 on January 16, 2017, 05:30:49 AM
If you guys don't figure out where we're going, I'm heading to the nearest Wendys!
Still working on the Admiral but as yet I'm dealing with the usual disinterest. It is what it is...I'm used to sailing solo.

No Wendys Bob sorry! Gunna have to be Burger King for ya!

Tim I am pleased that Vicki has relented on your demise. Susan and I have been married over 37 years and we have both pondered the "till death do you part" clause more than once. Thank heaven that the "thou shall not kill" clause supersedes it. I have wondered why she has been ok with me taking up activities that could put my life at risk sometimes, hmmm.......never thought about it that way.

Kevin's point is well taken about Willabys and lets just say Merrior it is. I wasn't gunna miss going there no matter as we would have gone the next day but having folks driving so far and having flexibility in meeting times plus an incredible experience once there all added up to Merrior. It truly is the best food anywhere around there! We are driving down that morning but will plan to get there early to start the table dance. Sure Pedro and Becky will join us to help if needed. We just need to set a time that leaves everyone comfortable with the drives they are taking. Shall we say 12:30 to start the decision process?

So it is looking like:
Kevin and Lesa
Pedro and Becky
Tim and Vicki
Myself and Susan
Bob and ?
Heave and ?
Wayne and ?
working on Dave
Bob mentioned inviting Rich and Gerry so that this can all be written off...might want get on it Bob!

Now we know there are many changes and events that are on-going or happened since last CBMWG. A partial list is below that we can have fun matching up with folks:  (they are not in order!)

My friend Flicka
Changes in latitude mean changes in attitude
Hi Yo Silver.. it's the lone Ranger! (tug)
La Dolce Vita, do you take pesos here?
think we need an Interlude in our lives
Finding Dory
"that bridge just seemed to take forever" AKA, A Bridge too Far
Gunna have to get some rust marks going on the trailer


Kevin is there any way you can blur the faces on any video of this soon to be epic gathering to protect the guilty?! We are also putting ourselves at risk for never being allowed back into Merrior but it'll be worth it.  :)

......as mentioned Pedro and I are already pondering CBMSG 2.0, and I am sure Heave will want in on being part of such plans!

T minus 25 and counting.....

  Well, I do like a Whopper from time to time! This is shaping up to be an epic gathering of the craziest Compac-o-nauts ever! I will be there and I'm thrilled that Tim and Vick will also be there. I still have Tim's credit card number just in case he bails on us!
Can't wait for this!!
Bob23

  Still working in the Admiral. I think she's weakening. She actually has a bit of a boating background. Being the oldest of 3 sisters, she was the "son" that her dad never had and as a kid, loved to go out fishing with him on his Carl Adams Skiff. Carl Adams was a locally famous boat builder in the 30's through the 60's. They would go out Barnegat Inlet and fish for who knows what. As a teenager, she was able to get into trouble with her friends aboard a Sunfish (who hasn't done that!).
  She did venture out on my old Seapearl with me but as anyone who's had experience with a Seapearl knows, they are quite tender and after a capsize on which she was not aboard, that kind of scared her. It actually was one reason I bought my Compac 23- for it's good manners. But you know what they say about first impressions, so she shys away from sailing altogether. I guess she just doesn't love it like I do.
  We'll see where this goes. My guess is she will not attend. But...I have a plan! Bwoooooohahahaha!!!

I hear ya! We have our little 16 cuz the owner's wife got tossed too much in a storm. It is one of the reasons i wish Susan to not be only a first mate but also a captain. When you are at the tiller in a tough situation you at least feel some semblance of control  (maybe a false sense!) whereas the mate sits quietly in prayer...."Dear Lord if we don't die i promise i will never do this again!" or possibly "Dear Lord We promise we will never do this again because i am gunna kill him!"

It was Susan who wanted that larger, (standing headroom, enclosed head, real galley) seaworthy (can handle more than the crew) boat that instills confidence regardless of her spouse.  :)

This is also the argument for a 16 as well since they are sooooo forgiving, simple and easy to handle in all situations. Susan is very comfortable at her helm.

Let Linda know, (can't believe i am saying this), that Susan loves antiquing and would go inna a heart beat. However if Interlude is not in the middle of any work, which may be the case, would be glad for Linda to get below decks......it will be the payback for the antique shop! I went looking at a smaller craft, an Orion, and Susan (who had said, ok will will go visit friends in Annapolis and look at a few boats but we aren't buying any yet..) saw Interlude after which i had to go see a marine mortgage expert. Jus sayin...you can sleep on your boat but ya can't sail an apartment. We don't live near our boat thus needed it to be where we stay as well.

Keep us posted on your plan.....we will be glad to help get her on board!

T minus 23 and counting...

Rick: If Linda attends, this could end up costing both of us a lot of money!

Hopefully

Well I am not gunna escape the possibility of spending money on this one. If I discourage Susan from going (which is not the case) she will simply go out with her girlfriends, who are all discussing a trip to Hawaii to visit one of her close friends who moved there earlier this winter. Bob it certainly appears that we will need to comfort ourselves with a draft or two, or three or........

Thanks for the encouragement Tim! Speaking of hopefully.......hopefully you will be able to fit all the bottles of rum for us in your return bags from the trip.  :)

Mas - Thank you for the cordial invitation to sip (gulp) some Dark and Stormy's and share some sea tales at the CBMWG. W'd really love to attend but the Admiral has other less important but firm obligations... like work!

So, in order to understand the CBMWG I have read the entire post which has left my left brain virtually dead! I know nothing! (Thank you Sergeant Schultz). What little I do recall, seems to be that HeaveToo said "Someone needs to come up with a Brewery on the water with slips." Guess what!? Bristol Boro, PA is shortly going to have BOTH on the Delaware River. Probably be ready in 2018.

Hope you guys and gals have a great get-together. Hope some still have enough energy left for FAMWG (BBB-2016.1?) in ???

Marty K.

Susan may go to Hawaii with her girlfriends? This sounds like trouble. Because you and I are such good friends, Rick, I will volunteer my time to assist them in making sure they stay out of trouble. No need to thank me...it's what friends do!

"Susan may go to Hawaii with her girlfriends? This sounds like trouble. Because you and I are such good friends, Rick, I will volunteer my time to assist them in making sure they stay out of trouble. No need to thank me...it's what friends do!
"

Bob this is why having Susan at CBMWG is a good thing even if antiques get discussed! It may simply postpone Hawaii trip discussions but once we get past winter she is more easily distracted from such trips to warm climes.  :) 

That's my plan and and I'm sticking to it!

Hmmm....just placed a quick post on the CP16 specific and classified section cuz found a 16 for sale only about an hour from this epic gathering. Bet it could be had for less and already good price. Just think, for you that have been trying to avoid the inevitable, which is the ownership of a 16, here is chance to keep looking in the rear view mirror on your way home, wondering what happened?! Let's see...was drinking some beer......talking about boats......remember a drive......BAM! Oh yeah that's right got another boat.  :)

Kevin, maybe the owner wants to trade up to a 23!. Bob, if you let Linda load her up with antiques for the drive home she probably would acquiesce! Tim, that could make an even dozen, always a nice number! Pedro, it would allow you to dose yourself when those inevitable times of, what happened to my mast? happens to you!

Jus sayin!

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lol....I like your thinking but I need the cash from the 23 sale to help payoff the 26. :D

Quote from: K3v1n on January 24, 2017, 05:17:51 PM
lol....I like your thinking but I need the cash from the 23 sale to help payoff the 26. :D

Trust me i know the feeling! So hey......make an offer that includes full price on the 23 and "take" the 16 off their hands for a whole lot less than going out and buying one. We actually pursued a similar concept as one tack when No Mas was for sale, because we just knew a 16 was something we wished and many with smaller craft for sale are looking for a larger one. Would have entertained a "trade in" if the numbers worked. If it helps sell your boat by buying his and if you can live with the small reduction in profit, you get yourself some funds and a 16! Just like cars, folks usually understand they will get less than an outright sale would have provided, but they get rid of the boat (car) and get what they want all at one time. Thus why trade in value is always a lot less than retail value yet folks do it all the time. Of course this only works in this scenario if they are looking for a 23 and you want a 16! Ya never know till ya ask!

Meanwhile don't forget to bring bunches of pics of Dorothea, or is it Dorythea!  :)

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Hmmm...I see the logic in your plan, Rick. Crafty, very crafty. I actually called about an older 16 on Long Island with no trailer. But all things considered, the Richmond one is a better deal. Because I'm trying to simply my life, I think I'll just get 'em both!!
Looking forward to CBMWG...admiral may be weakening...the lure of antiques is real!!!
Bob23

Quote from: Bob23 on January 25, 2017, 04:26:00 AM
Hmmm...I see the logic in your plan, Rick. Crafty, very crafty. I actually called about an older 16 on Long Island with no trailer. But all things considered, the Richmond one is a better deal. Because I'm trying to simply my life, I think I'll just get 'em both!!
Looking forward to CBMWG...admiral may be weakening...the lure of antiques is real!!!
Bob23

......and Susan said she is happy to help Linda fill up both your car and a 16 with goodies from an antique shop, or two! As you have already pointed out, there is no need to thank me, it is what friends do.  :)

OBTW, the pics of that 16 seem to indicate genoa tracks. a bow sprit (along with a higher fractional rig 7/8 vs 3/4), and spreaders thus a Mk2, so more than likely she comes with a couple headsails. It is the singe most noticeable difference, to me, in our current 16 and our first one. Just being able to change the headsails, the sheeting angle and thus the slot (even can play with sheets inboard or outboard of the shrouds for grins for pointing or running) is a nice addition. If the interior is anything like our Mk2 it is a nice tic up in fit and finish from the Mk1's. Teak trim, headliner, hull carpeting, forward bulkhead into chain locker. Must admit didn't realize the Mk2's were being made in that year.

....in all seriousness though, this boat will probably not last too long. I spent months looking for one that was not too much of  a project and if she is as represented, 2k is a pretty good deal and bet 1.5k would take her.

With so many "chats" I am lost, where are we on the specifics.  What are the current locations, times, and GPS addresses for the CBWG2?  I would like to attend by driving my 149mph, 34mpg, rides like a Rolls Royce, handles like a sports car, 1990 Citroen XM V6 24, but alas, I have a minor electric glitch that over-rides the engine being able to be started. Rick, my 2006 Rav 4 rides like a truck but would have enough room . . .

Thanks,
Dave

Quote from: Citroen/Dave on January 25, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
With so many "chats" I am lost, where are we on the specifics.  What are the current locations, times, and GPS addresses for the CBWG2?  I would like to attend by driving my 149mph, 34mpg, rides like a Rolls Royce, handles like a sports car, 1990 Citroen XM V6 24, but alas, I have a minor electric glitch that over-rides the engine being able to be started. Rick, my 2006 Rav 4 rides like a truck but would have enough room . . .

Thanks,
Dave

Hey Dave,

Yup we do tend to take the shotgun approach to planning! Glad to hear you are coming. I know will enjoy the area and it will give you a chance to check out some new cruising grounds. We definitely need to do some sailing season planning!

So what finally floated to the top with discussions are the following:

When-    2/11/17    12:30 (though folks coming from afar may need some tweaking of this)
Where-   https://www.rroysters.com/restaurants/merroir
What-     Food, drink, fellowship

We certainly are making a couple day visit out of this as are some others. Be glad to give you a guided tour of the general area, ramps, cruising spots etc. I am gunna lobby for a visit to the Deltaville Marine Museum, and Pedro let me know the the old presidential yacht Sequoia is languishing in a marina in Deltaville as well, so might try to find her too. There are always the marinas (more than I can count) and boats (thousands) that are always to fun to go slip/boat browsing! It's a pretty safe activity if you only look at boats not for sale........well maybe!

Here's the update on the folks attending many of whom are spending the night and making a weekend of it. There goes any hope of us ever being allowed into Merrior again!

So her we go:
Kevin and Lesa
Pedro and Becky
Tim and Vicki
Myself and Susan
Bob and (Linda is weakening he reports so there is hope!)
Heave and (depends on his wife's work schedule that week but will be keeping tabs on last beers!)
Wayne and Phyllis
Bob mentioned inviting Rich and Gerry so that this can all be written off...might want get on it Bob! (I was talking to Rich yesterday and he made no mention of any invite, not that i inquired!)

Now we know there are many changes and events that are on-going or happened since last CBMWG. A partial list is below that we can have fun matching up with folks:  (they are not in order! but do have something to do with everyone who is coming)

My friend Flicka
Changes in latitude mean changes in attitude
Hi Yo Silver.. it's the lone Ranger! (tug)
La Dolce Vita, do you take pesos here?
We had quite an Interlude in our sailing career.
Finding Dory, AKA "that's my trip to Scotland"
"that bridge just seemed to take forever" AKA, A Bridge too Far or Urbanna bound.

Since more than a few of us are spending the night, it now appears we may have to come up with even more things to do! Got my ideas.......!

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 All are invited over to the Pedro & Becky residence at 7:00 PM after the initial gathering at Merrior to indulge in munchies and drinks....all I need is a head count! You can come by kayak (right around the corner from Merrior) or by car (a few minutes longer) at 641 Blue Barn Road, Wake, VA. You'll recognize it by the non-sailboat in the boat shed!!  Let us know who's attending!!

Of course, I am. Don't know the number of heads yet or who they will belong to!

Quote from: peterg on January 26, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
All are invited over to the Pedro & Becky residence at 7:00 PM after the initial gathering at Merrior to indulge in munchies and drinks....all I need is a head count! You can come by kayak (right around the corner from Merrior) or by car (a few minutes longer) at 641 Blue Barn Road, Wake, VA. You'll recognize it by the non-sailboat in the boat shed!!  Let us know who's attending!!

Hmmm...one if by land and two if by sea huh! I have made that trip by boat, under power too, in daylight, no beer yet, warm weather....ok we are coming but by land. I wanna get there, and it also means we have to get back! (hey, ya only gotta hang one lantern.)  :)

I'll be arriving by Porsche!

Sounds great Pedro...thx!

Dang it,

My son purchased Judy Collins tickets, diner reservations, and a motel room in NoVa as a thank you for taking care of him, his wife, and children in various mixtures as he made a few trips to the Cancer Treatment Centers of America in Philly.  His surgery is doing well and he has opted to go on oral chemo in the near future to further up his odds.

The admiral says we have to go.

[As an aside, if you know anyone facing cancer, twist their arm to get a least a second opinion from CTCA.  They will fly you to a Center, met you with a limousine, and treat you as a guest as you interview their entire team assembled at your first visit/evaluation.  You will not have to assemble your own team of surgeons, oncologist, nutritionist, acupuncturist, naturopath, and etc.  Plus, they all work at the same spot and they are already talking to each other. Your traveling care-giver is well taken care of. Reduced rates, etc. for all your stays and food at a nearby hotel. They arrange for your transportation. Their first goal is to remove anything that is causing you stress like, money, for example.  I would not have believed it except I have traveled with my son and experience this phenomenal care.]

Disclaimer: I am not a salesman for CTCA and your results may vary.

Sorry to miss the CBMW 2.0. Next time the first round is on me . . .
Rick, let's do get together to do some sailing this Spring; yours, mine, or better, both.

Dave

Hey Dave,

You have your priorities correct!. Glad to hear he is getting good care.

Absolutely we will figure in some sailing this season. The chance to see the area will be missed on this event but we will start getting down there more regularly once skiing/boarding season is over and sailing season is staring us in the face, late March/ early April. Maybe you can take a trip down to check it out, though the 16's are so easy to trailer you might as well just bring her!

With you not coming, that does mean more beer for the rest of us! I thought you would be glad to know that.  :)

Rick

Golly who woulda thought that Mary O'Hara would have penned a potential topic of discussion........and she was a New Joisey shore girl!

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Quote from: Mas on January 24, 2017, 11:26:15 AM
Hmmm....just placed a quick post on the CP16 specific and classified section cuz found a 16 for sale only about an hour from this epic gathering. Bet it could be had for less and already good price. Just think, for you that have been trying to avoid the inevitable, which is the ownership of a 16, here is chance to keep looking in the rear view mirror on your way home, wondering what happened?! Let's see...was drinking some beer......talking about boats......remember a drive......BAM! Oh yeah that's right got another boat.  :)

Kevin, maybe the owner wants to trade up to a 23!. Bob, if you let Linda load her up with antiques for the drive home she probably would acquiesce! Tim, that could make an even dozen, always a nice number! Pedro, it would allow you to dose yourself when those inevitable times of, what happened to my mast? happens to you!

Jus saying!

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Well hopefully one of you guys bought her cuz she's gone!  Was a good deal.  :)  I have removed the topic from CP16 and Classified.

Well up late sitting by fire looking at boats. Darn this internet! Well we are almost a week away and there has been some activity behind the scenes that may come to light as we all gather.......

"If there are people that tell you have too many boats...........
..........get way from them, as nobody needs that kind of negativity in their lives!!"

NO we are not thinking about getting another boat! Not sure that is true for everyone.  :)

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Well, there is a good chance that my wife and I will be there for the gathering.  We won't be staying the night as we have to get home. 

I am looking forward to seeing you all.

Great Matt- I hope you both can make it.
Did someone say "too many boats'? I can guarantee if Admiral Linda attends, she will definitely attest to the fact that I have too many boats. She just never learned to count, that's all which is strange for a college educumated woman.
See you wharf rats in a week! Can't wait...driving the Porsche down. If I brought the truck, I might come back with...another boat!!!!Bwooooahahahahaha!!!!
Bob23

Quote from: Bob23 on February 04, 2017, 03:27:37 AM
Great Matt- I hope you both can make it.
Did someone say "too many boats'? I can guarantee if Admiral Linda attends, she will definitely attest to the fact that I have too many boats. She just never learned to count, that's all which is strange for a college educumated woman.
See you wharf rats in a week! Can't wait...driving the Porsche down. If I brought the truck, I might come back with...another boat!!!!Bwooooahahahahaha!!!!
Bob23

Matt and hopefully his wife coming..... great!! CBMWG would not be the same without ya! Somebody has to keep track of the last beers and it ain't gunna be either Bob or myself. It appears Linda can't count so that may explain not only Bob's boats but the beer tally! Unfortunately Susan can count. "isn't that your third beer?"

As far as the truck Bob, you really gotta bring it.....way more flexibility in towing a new boat home, loading antiques up for Linda, yada yada.........!

Don't forget to give Pedro and Becky a little heads up on their gracious offer to take us all in at their home for some additional drinks and munchies after we get thrown out of Merrior. I think i remember the 7 time frame. They live oh so close by. Scroll back up through to see address and particulars.

It appears that many of us are spending the night in various places nearby so who knows maybe we can piece together some next day activities before everyone points their vehicles towards home. Easy enough to discuss over food and drink!

We are gunna be leaving home oh so early in AM to drive down as have to swing by Interlude first, then wanna start the table round up ahead of time. Hopefully we can get Pedro and Becky to assist. (table holders get to have first beers!) with that said we never really confirmed that 12:30 worked for everyone. Does it? We can easily make it 1:00 if that gives more flexibility to folks coming with goodly drives, the only caveat is Merrior does not take reservations. The later we go after they open for lunch the more crowded they get. 1-3 is sort of the height of lunch hour for them. I have already given them the heads up and they will work with us, don't want anyone feeling rushed while driving.  Weigh in all



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12:30 works for us! See you in a week. :)

 Works for me as well. Admiral not coming so I'll be arriving via Porsche 930 CW. Vintage 1993 model, very rare, very fast. GPS says 6 hours...should take me 2!
I'm tentatively planning to visit the Flicka in Weems the next day...unless I change my mind completely about this crazy idea. If I strike a deal, I may be permanently and instantly relocating to Virginia- the Admiral may have a price on my head!
Looking forward to seeing everyone again.
Bob23

Quote from: Bob23 on February 05, 2017, 04:41:18 PM
Works for me as well. Admiral not coming so I'll be arriving via Porsche 930 CW. Vintage 1993 model, very rare, very fast. GPS says 6 hours...should take me 2!
I'm tentatively planning to visit the Flicka in Weems the next day...unless I change my mind completely about this crazy idea. If I strike a deal, I may be permanently and instantly relocating to Virginia- the Admiral may have a price on my head!
Looking forward to seeing everyone again.
Bob23

should i plan to be leaving the country......?  Feel kinda responsible for this.

Guess a trip to Weems will be one of our Sunday activities.  Will bring a list of homes for sale as well. Though with standing headroom could be a place to stay!  She'll come around. :)

P.S thought she couldn't count?
P.P.S. there is a plaque for you in the men's restroom at Merrior. Not kidding.

Yes, we must go see this Flicka you speak of!  Lesa can keep a secret. :D

PS. Is there a link to see this Flicka?

When it comes to my boats, she can count just fine!
Link is somewhere but I'm supposed to be working tonight!

No link on this here. I sent it PM so could be kept secret......well the Flicka is out of the bag now! Guess that solves the "my friend Flicka" match!

Bob if you check your last PM there is a reference to Jimmy Buffet giving a shout out to Pacific Seacraft at a recent concert, as they are building his new boat for him. He used to sail a Flicka many years ago! (His new one is a tad bigger!)

Hey just think.....if you have to move to Virginia you will not have to move the boat!

Richmond Craigslist......I do believe that this Flicka was sold out of Regent Point a couple years ago. Beck and I looked at it back then, and the owner was asking 28K at the time with a nice trailer.  Rick, be a good friend to Bob and buy it!

Yo Pedro, no problem will jus put it on my Visa, that would be the Visa for travel to a foreign country! Think Bob may need one of those. Glad that boat can make the voyage. Was on the Norfolk Craigs, well anyway that's where i found it a couple weeks ago. Still there as just checked. If it had a trailer then must have one now, if it is the same one, and you can tell it is on a trailer in the pics. . Can't imagine someone selling a trailer for a Flicka without the Flicka, guess you never know though. You buy that 16 that was on Craigs? You know you want one! Someone got a great deal.

So....if Bob sold all of his other boats he could get the Flicka and a CP16! Jus saying... Know he has a lot to drink....uh think about. :)

Weather is looking nice, though still a week away.

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Vicki and I will be overnighting at the Hampton Inn in Gloucester.  Looking forward to the E-vent
TG

Looking forward to seeing you both again! In other breaking news, the Flicka in Weems has been taken off the market. Whew!! What a relief; another decision that's been made for me!!
This is shaping up to be quite an epic event given the number of "characters" who'll be in attendance!!
Bob23

Phyllis and I look forward to meeting all the cast of characters.

We are staying at the Atherston B&B in Urbanna, VA.

Wayne

Quote from: Bob23 on February 07, 2017, 02:44:23 AM
Looking forward to seeing you both again! In other breaking news, the Flicka in Weems has been taken off the market. Whew!! What a relief; another decision that's been made for me!!
This is shaping up to be quite an epic event given the number of "characters" who'll be in attendance!!
Bob23

Susan and I are looking forward to continuing the fellowship that the return to sailing began last year. Oh Bob, there seems to be a Dana that may be for sale........!

Tim wanted to move this information to a new sticky which is a good idea but lets keep the lead up and any follow up discussion here so that we don't have two parallel threads with the particulars soon to be buried again! Which is easy to happen with this group!

So again we have:

When-    2/11/17    12:30
Where-   https://www.rroysters.com/restaurants/merroir
What-     Food, drink, fellowship

Final list is looking like: *indicates RSVP'd  for more foolishness at Pedro and Beckys..

*Kevin and Lesa
*Tim and Vicki
*Pedro and Becky
*Bob and his Porche!
Wayne and Phylis
Matt and his wife (Matt not sure i have ever known her name?)
*Susan and myself

RSVP Pedro & Becky as well on their gracious invite to come by their home  at 7ish for more merriment if ya haven't so far. Hmmm that would be Wayne and Phylis and Matt and his wife. We can all help Pedro try to set the neighborhood on fire by helping him with that "redneck" fire barrel!

Cu all there!  :)

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All right up way tooooo early with the wind just howling up on the mountain here at Wintergreen. Thought someone was knocking but was just a downed branch hitting up against the patio door. Lifts will have issues with this if it doesn't abate. I was gunna head home anyway today. Legs are worn out,


Well up now so........

I know we will be discussing many things at CBMWG and we are staying many different places but was curious if any folks are up for getting a group of us together on Sunday before we all head home to possibly visit the maritime museum there, maybe visit a marina or two, look for the Presidential yacht Sequoia.....Kevin you are correct the weather, at least at this time, is looking pretty spectacular especially for Sunday. I know we will be lingering some.....

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Aren't we gonna keep drinking on Sunday??
Dunno...I have a 6 hour drive back so I'll play it by ear. But it sounds like a nice idea. I have no reason to rush home anyway. I'd love to see Sequoia! And who wouldn't want to wander through a marina!
Bob23..I shall go Flicka-less!

It's going to be nice leaving all this snow up here to go south to dry ground and warmth. As for Sunday we have that long ride home via Philly to pick up the other car from my daughter at school. Probally need to be on the road by noon headed back north. :(

"==RSVP Pedro & Becky as well on their gracious invite to come by their home  at 7ish for more merriment if ya haven't so far. Hmmm that would be Wayne and Phylis and Matt and his wife. We can all help Pedro try to set the neighborhood on fire by helping him with that "redneck" fire barrel!"

We have to wait and see----  Hope to be able to accept the invite to Pedro and Becky's.

Wayne and Phyllis

Quote from: Bob23 on February 08, 2017, 05:49:40 AM
Aren't we gonna keep drinking on Sunday??
Dunno...I have a 6 hour drive back so I'll play it by ear. But it sounds like a nice idea. I have no reason to rush home anyway. I'd love to see Sequoia! And who wouldn't want to wander through a marina!
Bob23..I shall go Flicka-less!

Bob, you were gunna go home Flicka-Less anyway, but maybe not without Flicka in your future. Keep heart it was not sold just pulled from market. I actually decided to reach out to the owner myself since he lives so close to our marina. We had a great exchange and now have each others emails, phone numbers and addresses. (Who knows maybe at CBMSG Bob23 can catch a sail on her if timing works!) He is still going to acquire a larger craft more than likely after this season. That's perfect Bob, this gives you the time to sell off some of your fleet and be ready when she comes back on the market. I will encourage Scott, the owner, to reach out first before listing her so that our favorite Bob23 can be ready for his Friend Flicka! It also allows Bob time to find lodging here for the potential southern migration that may be necessary after a purchase. It is what friends are for!

Kevin, glad you guys can escape the snow. We could use some of it up here on the mountain. It's been a tough stretch lately to keep the snow we have. Guess "Southern Skiing" is kind of an oxymoron, hmmm what does that make "Northern Sailing"?

Wayne and Heave hope you guys can find your way over to Pedro and Becky's for a bit. They are great folks and you can glimpse your future (under his boat shed) if you ever give up sailing!  :)

Glad it is looking nice for everyone's visit.

I've actually decided to sell all my boats, bicycles, tools and every other worldly possession, quit working and become a Trappist monk where I can pray, make and drink Belgium ale all day and sing!! The 3 Philosophers were looking for a 4th and I was hired! Such a deal!!!
Bob23

Well Brother Bob that's perfect as the below decks on a Flicka are just about the same space as a Trappist monk's cell in a monastery! Now if you can just find a slip at a brewery......

We got some beers that are owed to each other, I think i remember something about 3 months worth being discussed somewhere in this four month lead up!

We are looking forward to everyone's company. Many changes since CBMWG 1.0.  :)

Hmm. A slip in a brewery...this is starting to make sense.
Found a new beer. Check out "Old Engine Oil" which is a  black ale! I can only find it locally at one restaurant. It's from Scotland! Hmmm...can one sail a Flicka to Scotland?
Bob23

Gaaaaaasp! old engine oil?   pshaaawww!

Quote from: Bob23 on February 08, 2017, 07:14:33 PM
Hmm. A slip in a brewery...this is starting to make sense.
Found a new beer. Check out "Old Engine Oil" which is a  black ale! I can only find it locally at one restaurant. It's from Scotland! Hmmm...can one sail a Flicka to Scotland?
Bob23

Sure you can, and it also sounds like you could use the beer for running the diesel! Though not sure why someone would do that.  :)

.....or you could simply fly over and purchase http://www.flicka20.com/flickas/flickaid/2/flickaname/Caraway  Be sure to read about her voyages, quite the history.

...seems like you might need to bring one of those ale's for Tim to help his palate! Tell ya what, bring a sixer and i will pick something as well. Pedro may never get rid of us.

I'm looking forward to this gathering of the great minds of the East Coast Compac-o-nauts. The monks have decided not to hire me after all. Apparently there's a rumor going around that I drink all of the beer and will not share. I tried to convince them this is a false rumor but they are standing their ground. See you all on Saturday. A Flicka may be in the future,  or it may not. But I do know one thing: The future is in my future! How's that for a thought to ponder!!
Bob23

Bob, I will vouch for you that you DO NOT drink all the beer! Probably just as well the Trappist thing might not work out, you would get tired of just Belgian Ales. Now getting the slip near a brewery is still a good idea me thinks!

Well after some discussion with Pedro it appears the Presidential Yacht Sequoia, though really sitting on a marine railway in a boat yard in Deltaville, will not be particularly interesting to go see unless you wish to see one of the largest shrink wrapped items ever! The museum there is quite nice however.

Ok, some last particulars: I will include both my and Pedro's cell numbers incase folks need to communicate about timing, directions or whatever. We are hoping to get to Merrior a little earlier than 12:30 to start the process of rounding up sufficient space for us. The weather at this time is cooperating in that outdoor seating may be possible, however it does tend to bring folks out as well. We will try to make the decision about in or out for the gathering. I know Susan does not like to be shivering while eating, don't know why, but we won't have us all out if not comfortable. No worries there!

It is always amazing what the act of sailing and boating in general provides someone, and the fellowship of others is not the least of the benefits. Many thanks in advance for the desire to be gathering to those who drive from afar many with even greater distances than us, to Pedro and Becky for their misguided offer to have us all over to their home, to Tim and the other admins that keep this forum going in spite of our efforts to have it crash under the weight of our posts, and to Rich and Gerry for building craft that caused all of this.

Rick's cell  (Mas)       : 434-962-5392
Pedro's cell (PeterG)  : 609-575-8922

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We have begun our trek southward! Figured we'd get a head start and cut our one day drive time. We are taking a pit stop in North East, MD. See you all tomorrow!

Well, it appears we will be allowed into Merrior again after all! It was so great to see everyone from CBMWG last year and many new faces for this year's CBMWG. A special shout out should be given to Pedro and Becky for the incredible hospitality we had at their home that evening. I don't know bout anyone else but i sure vote to do a repeat of all the above for CBMWG 3.0! It's barely a year away!

Kevin was toting his Go-Pro so the guilty will be revealed no doubt. We were witness to many statements made that surprised even the folks making them. For instance, ask Lesa about the significance of a PSC 62!

I guess it will soon be time to ponder CBMSG 2.0  Ideas have already surfaced and you will just have to stay tuned to see what finally emerges. With this crew it will no doubt be interesting.    :)

  From my perspective, a 12 hour round trip drive was not too far to gather together with this incredible bunch of Compac-o-nauts!! Mucho thanks to Rick for organizing this epic event and as you mentioned, to Pedro and Becky for the incredible time of outside fire, bourbon and all the food a hungry sailor could ask for!!!
  Unbeknownst to me, Rick really surprised me with a one of a kind gift handmade by his wonderful wife Susan: A custom made, hand fitted complete set of 6 portlight privacy curtains for my 1985 23. These appear to be crafted of a rare white organic material that is made only in very small quantities in a undisclosed location by Trappist monks who need the extra income. Thank you Rick and Susan...I will cherish these for the rest of my days.
  Most of you know that Admiral Linda did not want to attend this gathering of oyster eatin' wharfrats and me not being able to find a date (or a fig) came single. Rick however, knowing my love of Belgium ale, almost managed to have a nun attend as my date. Apparently this nun was a blonde, not that this matters and sails a Nunsuch 30. Well, to make a long story short, she never showed..probably got sidetracked coming up the Chesapeake.
  But the plot thickens: On my drive home, I ended up on the phone with this very nun who, not being familiar with Rick, thought his number was just another telemarker and didn't return his call. But I'm happy to report that had Sister Mary Barbara known, she would have certainly joined this motely crew!!
  Thanks to all who attended! Rick and Susan, Pedro the Great and Becky the Greater, Tim and his lovely bride Vicki, Kev and Lesa, Matt and Jackie, Wayne and Phyllis and myself and the mega yacht Julia Katherine!

I am sorry that I missed the bond fire.  We had some stuff that needed to get back to in Northern VA and we didn't have a pet sitter for Freyja, our Mastiff. 

It would be fun to get together on the water this summer.  I intend to be out during May towards the end of the month.  Eventually we need to make it to Tangier Island!

Oh yeah...Bob, did your curtains make it home in good shape?  Those are some incredible custom work that was done!

Lesa and I had a great time, thanks to everyone who came out, it was great to meet some new Compac-o-nauts! Thanks again to Becky and Pete for hosting the 'After Party', that was awesome. Working on the next episode of 'Empty Nest Sailing' so stay tuned for some CBMWG_2.0 clips.

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So Vicki turned to me and asked " How many pictures did you take?". "None, too busy drinking beer! How many did you take?"  "None, too busy backing up your stories."

We had a great time as well. Good to see familiar faces and new ones Lesa, Wayne, Phyllis, Jackie, and Becky. Ditto all the thanks to all --- you can invite me back anytime!

Time to begin a late August - early September SMLCPR!

TG

We had a great time. What could be better than good people, good food and good (cheap) beer?

Wayne and Phyllis

I'd like to interject my personal take on Wayne's taste in beer. The astute observer will note the bottle of PBR in his hand. My kind of guy!!!
Incredible time for all!!!

Ack!!!! PBR.  I can't understand why people want to drink that stuff.  It is the beer of college students.

Give me a good dark beer.  At lease we know that Bob does like good beers!

Other good news, Bob didn't get the last beer this time.  LOL. 

Well while on the subject of beer, had brought a great dark beer from Founders called Breakfast Stout. It is an Imperial stout and could take the place of breakfast!  At 8.3 ABV you aren't going to pound down a sixer of them, actually they come in a four pack. Being a little on the lame side, i totally forgot i had them. will remember to bring them next year. Unfortunately not available year round.

As we move towards the CBMSG my tastes will shift to those dry, kicked back on a hot summer's day varieties, yes Heave i do like IPA's!. Trust me the location for the summer gathering (CBMSG 2.0) will be with good beer in mind! It will be on the water, possibly a cookout as last year but regardless it's gunna happen! Maybe this year we can skip the 95 degree heat and even invite My Friend Flicka!  :)

To me IPAs taste like cologne.  I am pretty much exclusively drinking dark beers these days.

It will be interesting to see what you come up with for the next location. 

With all of that talk about a Flicka I thought that I would pass this on for Bob23 to drool over:
https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/5975452177.html

Drooling. With my birthday approaching, if anyone wants to give me 25g, well, that would be so nice. That looks like one beautiful boat and considering the new engine and trailer, not a bad price. Thanks, Matt.
Bob23

Rick: I've had that stout but not for breakfast. It's really nourishing!

Quote from: HeaveToo on February 14, 2017, 03:00:42 AM
With all of that talk about a Flicka I thought that I would pass this on for Bob23 to drool over:
https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/5975452177.html

Saw this one as well earlier. Not sure what the "new Deck" entails but the earlier Flicka's pre-1980ish had some deck core issues that was corrected in later models. If all the thru deck hardware had been kept well bedded not an issue but if water had penetrated the balsa coring developed issues. The yellow hull will make Bob easy to find!

Well Heave we can't all have well developed tastes for beers! I know both Susan and I really didn't care for IPA's initially but have now developed a palate for them. Heck i never even liked my first taste of beer! Got over that though.  :)

Pedro and I have been kicking around a couple ideas for the summer gathering. So many opportunities down there, so stay tuned. Regardless of where, it is you guys that make the gathering memorable!

Based on another discussion that we had, here is the article:  http://www.yachtingmagazine.com/jimmy-buffetts-next-yacht?image=1

As much as I would love to attend one of these, conflicts have always arisen.  This time it was my mothers 93rd birthday celebration.  Looks like a good time was had by all. 

However I must comment on the beer discussion.  I too, have been guilty of bashing Bob23 for his defense of PBR as a quality beer.  I now have to admit I must have been wrong.  The Admiral and I recently had lunch at the Neon Pig in Tupelo, MS a restaurant favored by locals for some time and known nationally as  result of their smash burger winning the "best burger in America" competition several years ago.  With deepest apologies to Bob, when we entered the restaurant I saw this:

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Well while on the subject of beer, had brought a great dark beer from Founders called Breakfast Stout.

Stout is for breakfast or at least for brunch depending on the night before.  When the whole family gathers at the beach we always have an Irish brunch which consists of oysters on the half shell and Guinness Stout.  There is nothing else needed.......

Glad ya'll had a great time! 

"However I must comment on the beer discussion.  I too, have been guilty of bashing Bob23 for his defense of PBR as a quality beer."

Hey Brack, ya need to ask Bob about the very special plaque in the men's room at Merrior. I tried to buy it from them just for Bob, but they wouldn't part with it!

Hrm....I thought that big porcelain object in the Men's room was to catch the necessary stuff to make PBR!  LOL

Why waste money on high test when regular works just as well?

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161017005767/en/Pabst-Blue-Ribbon-Wins-Gold-Medal-2016

Yup. I've been tryin' to tell these guys this for years, Wayne!!

Thanks,
Bob23

Ok, time to weigh in and then I will stop. We refuse to drink many beers not only because they simply don't taste as good as many of our local brews, which we like to support, but because of the poor quality of ingredients in many of the major "beers". Many have 49% rice because it is a cheap grain. They would use more but then they couldn't call it beer. Secondly they have little regards for quality vs price point. I get it, not everyone likes to pay the same price for a six pack of quality craft beer when they can get a twelve pack, or even more of the substances they call beer. I would rather have less of something good.

This website and others like it have allowed those of us who care about the brewing industry, influence what big business breweries put in their brews. I know Bob will not like this list as two of his favorites are on there. The good news is the brewers that listen, are making changes as folks become educated. Notice some of the changes already made since the list first posted.

http://organics.org/8-beers-that-you-should-stop-drinking-immediately/

Now back to topic! All this talk about beer, warm weather, getting back down to the bay for CBMWG, has already got me pondering sailing season and the possibilities. It'll be time for CBMSG 2.0 before you can say "make ready to come about"!

One thing that I dearly love about the craft beer explosion is that when you buy you support local!  It is fun to try different beers too.

ACK!!!! I saw that Guinnes was on the list.  Dag nab it because I like that beer. 

Well Bob, at least Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald isn't on there ;)

Praise the Lord!!!  Six of my favorite rehydrators made the list!!

Quote from: HeaveToo on February 20, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
ACK!!!! I saw that Guinnes was on the list.  Dag nab it because I like that beer. 

Well Bob, at least Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald isn't on there ;)

Hey Heave if you go back to my previous post and link and reread the list carefully you will notice some of the breweries have corrected their less than wonderful practices. Guinness has now stopped High Fructose corn syrup inclusion and is working to eliminate the Isinglass, which is really just dried fish bladder used in cask beers/stouts to aid in clarifying the brews. It bonds with the particles, sinks to the bottom of the cask and is discarded, though some always remain suspended in the brew. The corn syrup was why we stopped drinking it for a while and we let them know why, but that has been corrected so drink up shriners!

Bob, its ok, but the other of your favorites on the list still has a few changes they need to make before we drink it!

Not big on the fish bladder!!!!!

Lately I have started liking basic things.  You know, meals when you can pronounce what is in them and have less ingredient. 

Kevin nice video work as always! Put a link here as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM_7GxcCdQ&feature=youtu.be

Hmmm....Lesa made you stop to look at the Pacific Seacraft 31 for sale huh? Know you tried very hard to convince her otherwise....wink, wink. Gotta warn you the desire for one never left us over the 25 years we did not sail. They had just come out with the 31 as we were giving up sailing. They are a stand out design from William Crealock and marine interior designer Joseph Artese and we could only dream of having one then and still pinch ourselves that we have Interlude now. She is also our home down there.  The link to the original brochure is below:

http://staging.baliyo.com/MSOG/pdfpage/psc31.pdf

Sorry if it's my fault, it is the most friends can do!

Great video Kevin!   Phyllis saw it and now wants a chin lift!

Wayne J (cheap)

Hrm....Watched the video.  Black Swan is owned by some infamous sailors that show up on Facebook a lot.  John Sparrow and Lizzy Swan.  They have three boats.  Those guys log some serious miles.

It is fun to look at boats, even when you can't afford them!  LOL.

Well the folks at Merrior let in at least two of us since the gathering so guess all is well there, Pedro and Becky were brave and returned. Their hospitality at the after party was wonderful, with the exception of giving Susan a tour of your Ranger Tug. You know what happens getting Susan around boats. You guys are great!

Kevin's video provided us all a reminder that much fun was had and yes Lesa you were driving five and a half hours for lunch! It appears after you stopping at DVYC that there may be even more expense some day as a fall out from this, though Scotland by sea....could be a plan. Hear that Lesa, you could still get that trip because of a boat someday! They sure are beautiful aren't they?

Bob may have escaped being deported for now by Linda, but I am meeting the owner of the Flicka at a sock burning party he invited me to in a couple weeks and I am sure that his plans for the Flicka will be discussed. Might wanna get those emigration plans ready Bob! You could join Kevin and Lesa, after they get their PSC31, along with your friend Flicka, and sail to Scotland for that stout, the Jersey Armada.

Tim and Vicki will clearly need to install defensive measures on their wonderful lighthouse and dock structure at SML as more than a couple of us have contemplated a siege by sea! Even though i was kidding Tim about bringing rum from their trip, they did and it was greatly appreciated! We are not all that far from each other and should find some excuses to get together.

So Heave, it would not have been a CBMWG without ya and it was way cool I had a chance to sit next to and talk with Jackie. Let all here know this: "I like sailing and boats" This was a direct quote, maybe influenced by some ETOH, but I heard it! You guys will have to come back down sometime when you can spend a couple days and let's get her aboard some boats! Oh since you mentioned her, I have been out on Black Swan and raised her pirate emblem. Know you would approve of that! Meanwhile Tangier Island still is right were we left it i presume.

Wayne and Phylis didn't look too shocked after meeting us and it is clearly a character flaw they have when they mentioned doing this again! Was so great to meet you both and Wayne let's do get together this season and take our girls out, maybe we will even bring Phylis and Susan.

and to Dave who could not make it.....a glass was tipped, and an invitation stands. Our girls were hatched oh so close together, we need to introduce them to each other.

Finally a nod to the best wife a man could ever hope for, Susan has steadfastly supported my dreams and made them hers as well. After 37 years we have helped each other realize many of each others dreams, oh and we still ponder the "till death do us part" clause! Keeps me on my toes.  :)

Thanks again all for the camaraderie. Well I guess it will soon be sailing season, and there are already suggestions tenured about CBMSG 2.0.........just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water!

Yeah...I about fell out of the chair when my wife said that quote.  Being that I have had Saga for 3 seasons now and she has yet to set foot on her, I think that ship has sailed.  She considered my Catalina 30 roughing it!  I was always amazed when she said that because it had everything but AC.  Now I am reduced to no standing headroom, no separate head, a cockpit shower that is cold water only, and very little space inside the cabin.

I do hope that she will eventually try it again when is older and maybe she will like it.  She would have to let go of some prejudices about it.  The other odd part is that I was very careful in introducing her to sailing and cruising because I made sure I didn't take her on any rough passages etc. 

It was a good gathering.  You are definitely keeping your boat in a nice area. 

Quote from: HeaveToo on February 23, 2017, 01:34:13 PM
Yeah...I about fell out of the chair when my wife said that quote.  Being that I have had Saga for 3 seasons now and she has yet to set foot on her, I think that ship has sailed.  She considered my Catalina 30 roughing it!  I was always amazed when she said that because it had everything but AC.  Now I am reduced to no standing headroom, no separate head, a cockpit shower that is cold water only, and very little space inside the cabin.

I do hope that she will eventually try it again when is older and maybe she will like it.  She would have to let go of some prejudices about it.  The other odd part is that I was very careful in introducing her to sailing and cruising because I made sure I didn't take her on any rough passages etc. 

It was a good gathering.  You are definitely keeping your boat in a nice area.

Heave, I am not sure what i could say or advise as everyone's situation is very different. i do know what is the true for anything that has sprouted that I wish to nurture and grow, is that it is given special care and space until it is firmly rooted and ready to take the weather. Looks like something sprouted! :)

A Compac 23 may not be the size you hope for some day, but they are "incredible little boats" and cost a bunch less than larger craft. We went without a boat for 25 years, you're one boat ahead of where we were! Meanwhile enjoy this ridiculous weather as it appears spring has sprung. (at least for now).

Rick: That was a perfect write up and thank you for your part in organizing the group of shaniniganizers!
2 questions loom in the frontal part of my gray matter"
1. Keep me posted about this Flicka. I'm semi determined to own one at some point in my life but do not mention this to Koinoina
2. Does Jackie have any older sisters???

Yes...One older sister that is 42.

Rick, there are good points to the 23.  I am going to be in her for a while and I plan to enjoy her.  I do miss a few of the creature comforts that I was use to on the Spirit of Liberty.

Hmm...42 is kinda young. Is she married?  Bam!!! Ouch, Linda. I was only joking!! Geez!!
I describe the Compac 23 as a small big boat or a big small boat. For me it would work for solo cruising or with someone with whom you are very good friends.
Bob23

After so many days it does close in on your!  I have done 12 on mine.  Still, it will do for now!

Quote from: Bob23 on February 25, 2017, 07:12:26 PM
Rick: That was a perfect write up and thank you for your part in organizing the group of shaniniganizers!
2 questions loom in the frontal part of my gray matter"
1. Keep me posted about this Flicka. I'm semi determined to own one at some point in my life but do not mention this to Koinoina
2. Does Jackie have any older sisters???

Ok Bob I was trying to not respond but jus gotta! Keeping you posted about your friend Flicka will certainly be the case, and it is not a question! Does Jackie have an older sister? Oh the fickle nature of solo sailors, as you have already lost interest in Sister Merry Blond!

I agree about the big small boat or small big boat assessment. It was this quality that makes them a great 4-2-1 boat that also was why No Mas was both too small and too large for us. When something is both too large and too small ya need two things to replace it, thus Interlude and Mas. Same thing will happen to you both of you guys if one become two for crew,  jus sayin!

Whew...One becomes two etc.  LOL  I was thinking that a tear was about to shed from Mas' eye when he was talking about that.

We shall see what Saga gets herself into this season!  It looks like the season will be hear faster than normal.

Hey Bob....Here is the story of the guy that I told you about that was doing a kayak tour:  http://pilotonline.com/news/local/environment/norfolk-kayaker-on-a-six-month-mile-trek-up-the/article_c0607a72-4709-53ee-bd41-13a75ddefbd9.html