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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => CP-23's => Topic started by: Bristol14 on June 21, 2016, 01:56:00 PM

Title: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bristol14 on June 21, 2016, 01:56:00 PM
I'm not sure I've set up Mudlark's roller furling jib sheets properly. Do they typically run outside the shrouds to the adjustable blocks on cars or inside the shrouds through pad eyes on the outer cabin walls?  I haven't been able to find a good digital of the set-up in the archives.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bob23 on June 21, 2016, 08:06:04 PM
Mine run outside the shrouds. I believe this is the factory setup. But there's nothing wrong with a little experimentation.
Bob23
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: HeaveToo on June 21, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
It could depend on the size of your headsail.  If it is shorter than 100% then you might get away with inside the shrouds.  If not, it is outside.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: tmw on June 22, 2016, 08:14:37 AM
Per the manual, the sheet runs between the upper and lower shrouds for the 23.
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Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bristol14 on June 22, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
Thx, all very helpful!
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bristol14 on June 28, 2016, 03:13:18 PM
After experimenting, we went with running outside the shrouds and moving the blocks back behind the winches. Not only did we see an improvement in performance, but movement of the jib during tacking improved considerably.

Pictured is our longest sail so far, from Marion to Falmouth, MA, across Buzzards Bay.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Tom L. on June 28, 2016, 05:31:54 PM
B 14. Nice picture. Main and Head sail are very well trimmed with about the same twist. The slot looks fast.

Tom L.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bristol14 on June 28, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
Thx, this was our third sail on Mudlark so we're still learning the boat. We met a friend about halfway across Buzzards Bay and in order to sail along side him, I let the sails out a bit to slow down. He was sailing an O'Day 23 and we were clearly the faster boat.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bob23 on June 28, 2016, 08:09:27 PM
Bristol:
   A pretty sight is a Compac 23 under sail! In her element! I enjoy your posts...keep 'em coming!!
Bob23
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bristol14 on June 29, 2016, 09:12:50 AM
Thx Bob. As you can probably tell, I'm really enjoying our decision to move up to the Com-Pac 23. We previously sailed two Alberg designs, a Bristol Corinthian and then a Cape Dory Typhoon. I was a bit concerned about how Mudlark would handle Buzzards Bay as the Alberg's deep, heavy, full keel was meant for the chop we typically encounter. However, Mudlark is handling the chop and strong winds with ease.
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: Bob23 on June 29, 2016, 09:11:51 PM
I almost just bought a Typhoon but a full price buyer snagged it out from under me. Good thing- the judge would probably aquit my wife in my murder trial!  I am also impressed with the 23's ability to handle the afternoon chop and winds that we get here in NJ. I've found that by adding some weight forward (a full 5 gallon water jug) her weatherly ability is increased. A wonderful boat.
Bob23
Title: Re: Roller furling Jib sheets
Post by: HeaveToo on June 29, 2016, 09:28:26 PM
I have a big 35 pound bucket of cement in the forward area and my 13.5 gallon water tank.  It balances out the 2 GC2 batteries I have in the battery area and my heavy cooler when I cruise.

I didn't even think of it, but in this video you can see my 150 jib flying and you can see the sheet leads, kind of:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqDQ1VHNwVM

--You can also see the asymmetrical flying :)

As far as chop, Saga took 5+ foot seas this season off of Windmill Point.  I was very impressed on how she handled it.  It wasn't even scary, she was easy to control and handled it like a champ.  It was a huge confidence builder.  I was going upwind in those conditions too.  If you have your sails set up right to the wind conditions she will go and she will impress you.  Sailing her flatter will help if you are going up wind so don't be afraid to reef/roll up some jib, or change out to a smaller headsail. 

Saga has also done a tight reach in 25 knots of wind with a few higher gusts.  I had a reefed main and about 90% of Jib out (90% of J).  It handled it well.