My 1983 CP19 has her original sails, and now is the time to trade up. Can anyone advise me as to the cost of a new main, a new jib, and a new genoa, and a good source for these sails (someone who's made these sails before and has the pattern. Thanks very much. Ned
Ned,
When I had my 19 I had sails made by National Sail Supply. They were very well made and the fit was perfect. The cost was very reasonable.
Call Dirk at (352) 540-9101.
P.S. sounds like you are 2 or 3 sets of sails behind - I think will will notice a difference with new sails.
Ron
Agree 100%...call Dirk at National. Nice sails for a very good price. He has the correct templates. Expect roughly $450 per sail, but he'll have to quote you to be sure.
Do think about the main a bit before you order, that is to say if you want loose footed or not, and full battens or not. Also the weight on the cloth.
He can advise you on each of these but knowing a bit about what you're looking for first, then asking for advice may help to solidify the right type of sail you will be happiest with.
If you have roller furling, know your luff tape size (usually #6 for this size boat) and the luff and tape length you need before calling. If you have hank on sails, he won't need any dimensions, just if you have a CP19/I or CP19/II.
Wow...33 year old sails. It's going to be a huge difference in how you boat behaves!
National Sails is the only rational choice.
FYI: I just had a nice chat with Dirk about a jib and loose-footed main in 5 oz. tan-bark.
V.
With all due respect...there is no "correct template" or pattern for a sail. Talk to a reputable sail maker, he should ask you about the conditions in which you sail, how you sail your boat, what your expectations are for performance, the measurements from YOUR boat, etc. He should build a sail to meet your needs. Talk with your local racers in the area, those are the guys the buy sails every year or so and could likely direct you to really good local lofts that will get you a good fit with some great performance. Remember with a sail, shape is everything-that sail is going to propel your boat for better or worse, so get the best sail you can afford.
Thanks to all that responded. Yep, 33 years under one set of sails is a long time. Though i must say they don't look too bad. Ned
Mattman you are absolutely correct, and that's where I think Dirk proves his worth. I explained what I wanted and he understood exactly what I was looking for in my new sails. He was 100% indulgent with my questions and had good answers to all. I wished to stay with factory jib sheet guides and bypass upgrading to tracks - for simplicity and with a little measuring on my part the jib came out perfect. Trimmed nice and flat (no twist) just as I had wished.
I never questioned Dirk about his sailing background, but it is obvious the way he understands any situation you may unfold, that he has been there and done that. One of the few people that I have come across that can communicate comprehensively over the phone.
I'm sure their work would be backed 100%, but for two different boats I've never needed any service work on the sails I purchased from Dirk. So I have to give him 5 stars *****.
Ron
16 -19 - Picnic Cat - Sun Cat - 23 pilot house + a few others including two trimarans - loved them all but now it's time for a cruising cat whenever someone adopts my 23.
I learned how to make that old adage "the happiest days of your life" work for me. Just buy and sell a lot of boats for lots of happiest days.
Sound like National is the place to go. I just bought new a main sail for my CP 19 last year from Quantum sail (in town / local) and it was much more than the $450 you are talking about.
After many questions on how I was going to sail the boat, conditions that I sail in cruise or race ectc we came up with a plan for new a sail. I could not believe the difference I'm sure you will be amazed also.