Well had a punch list before no Mas was to be rigged and splashed and it just got longer. I'm sure more folks find that same spring phenomenon of going to your boat with a list of to do's and leaving with a longer list.
This last trip was just such a batch of three days.
Day 1: new decals, new port gaskets, take off tarp and install LED bulbs
result: port gaskets from Hutchins simply will not fit. spend 4 hours on two and basically they will not suffice as too suspect after having to pound them in place. the other four will be returned and new bulk gaskets ordered that allow better conforming qualities to the less than perfect cast bronze ports she has.
Add: everything that had been planned, plus return gaskets and order new type.
Day 2: rig boat
results: PeterG came by to help, had planned to rig but had to leave tarp in place as port gaskets could not be replaced. We did find the bilge in No Mas, that has been bone dry for her entire life, full of water to the motor mounts. Now remember, she's on the hard, cabin covered with a canvas tarp to protect leaky ports. Never expected that! Had removed batteries for winter thus electric bilge pump was inoperable. Look for bilge pump handle which had been moved from it's usual location, find it pump.....nothing. Look for obstructions, nothing. Found instead that the up-take hose has fallen against the engine drive shaft where the rotating shaft had worn away the entire side of the hose, duct tape to rescue, water mostly pumped out.
Add: new hose to list. Add find water leak source. Add bring back batteries to verify electric pump even works as the bilge has NEVER had water in it before.
Day 3:Replace all lights with LED bulbs after confirming fixtures function since mast is still down and didn't happen on Day 1.
Result: noticed rudder housing paint flaking off in large chunks. (PO had painted over the factory finish on the cast aluminum housing and it was failing and the material as it warmed and expanded after winter really showed the progress of this slow failure) the yard where she is kept was going to spray a boat with white awl grip next day and could hit my housing for little effort if it was ready. That meant strip all old paint and finish, which i did not have the right tools and materials to do, so that it could be acid etched, primer coated, then shot with awl grip. Took it to Atlantic Material Fabricators just down the road, (think bridge, barge, ship parts for construction) with my little rudder housing and asked if they could possibly sand blast it on short (like right then) notice. Well fortune smiled, the president of the company was there, they had just brought their sand blasting rig back from work on a barge and were moving it to a bridge project next day. 30 minutes (20 of which was set up) and $30 later housing almost too pretty to paint! Never got to the LED's
Virtually nothing on the list i came with got done, many new items now exist as well, but had a chance to hook up with PeterG again, met the owner of a large company that took the time for a small task, soaked up the gorgeous weather, ate oysters, fish taco's, lamb and clam stew, craft draft every night, ran into a childhood friend of my son who now manages the Rappahanock Oyster folks farm on their Chincoteague Island location, found out about a great St. Paddy's Day celebration, hmmm...now where is that list anyway!
Overall, the last paragraph translates to me that you had a successful day! Strange about the leak on a covered boat. My guess is that it's coming from outside the boat...I'd almost bet on it!
If I do indeed take Koinonia for her first swim, the list has dwindled to: Bottom paint, wax, maybe a teak touchup, find that blasted leak that allowed some water into my bilge...and then go sailing! This spring like weather is too much for me to bear. And I'd love to be the first sailboat out on the bay this spring.
Bob23
Quote from: No Mas on March 18, 2016, 02:24:58 AM
Well had a punch list before no Mas was to be rigged and splashed and it just got longer. I'm sure more folks find that same spring phenomenon of going to your boat with a list of to do's and leaving with a longer list.
This last trip was just such a batch of three days.
Day 1: new decals, new port gaskets, take off tarp and install LED bulbs
result: port gaskets from Hutchins simply will not fit. spend 4 hours on two and basically they will not suffice as too suspect after having to pound them in place. the other four will be returned and new bulk gaskets ordered that allow better conforming qualities to the less than perfect cast bronze ports she has.
Add: everything that had been planned, plus return gaskets and order new type.
Day 2: rig boat
results: PeterG came by to help, had planned to rig but had to leave tarp in place as port gaskets could not be replaced. We did find the bilge in No Mas, that has been bone dry for her entire life, full of water to the motor mounts. Now remember, she's on the hard, cabin covered with a canvas tarp to protect leaky ports. Never expected that! Had removed batteries for winter thus electric bilge pump was inoperable. Look for bilge pump handle which had been moved from it's usual location, find it pump.....nothing. Look for obstructions, nothing. Found instead that the up-take hose has fallen against the engine drive shaft where the rotating shaft had worn away the entire side of the hose, duct tape to rescue, water mostly pumped out.
Add: new hose to list. Add find water leak source. Add bring back batteries to verify electric pump even works as the bilge has NEVER had water in it before.
Day 3:Replace all lights with LED bulbs after confirming fixtures function since mast is still down and didn't happen on Day 1.
Result: noticed rudder housing paint flaking off in large chunks. (PO had painted over the factory finish on the cast aluminum housing and it was failing and the material as it warmed and expanded after winter really showed the progress of this slow failure) the yard where she is kept was going to spray a boat with white awl grip next day and could hit my housing for little effort if it was ready. That meant strip all old paint and finish, which i did not have the right tools and materials to do, so that it could be acid etched, primer coated, then shot with awl grip. Took it to Atlantic Material Fabricators just down the road, (think bridge, barge, ship parts for construction) with my little rudder housing and asked if they could possibly sand blast it on short (like right then) notice. Well fortune smiled, the president of the company was there, they had just brought their sand blasting rig back from work on a barge and were moving it to a bridge project next day. 30 minutes (20 of which was set up) and $30 later housing almost too pretty to paint! Never got to the LED's
Virtually nothing on the list i came with got done, many new items now exist as well, but had a chance to hook up with PeterG again, met the owner of a large company that took the time for a small task, soaked up the gorgeous weather, ate oysters, fish taco's, lamb and clam stew, craft draft every night, ran into a childhood friend of my son who now manages the Rappahanock Oyster folks farm on their Chincoteague Island location, found out about a great St. Paddy's Day celebration, hmmm...now where is that list anyway!
Well, dang, that sounds like you are living in interesting times. I see you know about Chincoteague. I went up there with friends about 25 years ago for an oyster festival, had a great time. Do they still have that? Would that be a good place to bring a boat and sail around? I probably wouldn't bring the CP 23 (since I don't have a road-ready trailer) but I could bring my Windrider.
Your list sounds like mine...fix one thing, find two more things to fix.
I did the rudder housing project. I wire brushed it and spray painted over it with black paint. I am not worried about having to repaint every few years but this was actually pretty easy. I also added bushings into my rudder. If you haven't done this, I highly recommend this upgrade because my rudder moves so smoothly now!
I finally have to adapters to put the terminals on my RG-8X coax cable so I can finally finish my VHF upgrade. Everything else is done.
I repaired my bulkhead and stopped a leak were my instruments are located. This worked out great and looks good.
When I replaced my faucet I had to drill a new hole. I have two holes to cover up. I plan to cover one hole up by making it larger and then putting a cup holder in it. Inside the cup holder I plan to put a liquid soap holder. I still am not 100% sure how I will cover up the second, smaller hole.
While working on those things my mirror fell, it was cheap and just up there with two sided tape. I got the brilliant idea of putting a small cabinet there to cover the back of my depth finder and also give me a little storage. I will let you know how that goes! I have to fabricate the whole thing.
I still have to wire in the base of my mast to finish rewiring my mast.
I still have to do my exterior woodwork
I still have to paint my dinghy.
I still have to power wash the boat and touch up the bottom paint. I also want to wax the boat.
I still have to clean the interior and clean the interior woodwork.
Yesterday I got my repaired main sail from the sail maker. It is only a temporary repair and in the near future I will replace my main sail.
I need to make a sleeve for my tiller pilot to keep it dry in bad weather.
The list goes on and grows. I splash in a few weeks, around April 15. I am hoping to get most of this done so I can go for a nice little sail to shake the boat down.
I am looking forward to seeing you all again soon on the Chesapeake.
Quote from: Bob23 on March 18, 2016, 04:55:32 AM
Strange about the leak on a covered boat. My guess is that it's coming from outside the boat...I'd almost bet on it!
Maybe not from outside the boat? Possibly a water tank or fitting leak if it wasn't emptied before winter? If you removed the batteries, then I'm guessing you probably emptied the water tank(s) as well, but I thought I would through it out there. Another interior possibility is holding tank leak...but you didn't mention a smell.
The amount of water has to be from the outside. The flexible water bladders were mostly emptied and winterized. Some water always remains but not this much!
Wondering if the cockpit filled up and spilled in throughout the lockers. Forgot to check the scuppers to see if clogged but weren't to start the season. We did get an incredible downpour one day that was more rain than i have ever seen at once. The tarp does send some water into the cockpit that would have run outside of the coamings normally but not a huge amount. Still a puzzle. Definitely not the holding tank! Thats an easy leak to identify. :)
Everything was bone dry from anchor locker to the engine compartment.
Quote from: Bob23 on March 18, 2016, 04:55:32 AM
Overall, the last paragraph translates to me that you had a successful day! Strange about the leak on a covered boat. My guess is that it's coming from outside the boat...I'd almost bet on it!
If I do indeed take Koinonia for her first swim, the list has dwindled to: Bottom paint, wax, maybe a teak touchup, find that blasted leak that allowed some water into my bilge...and then go sailing! This spring like weather is too much for me to bear. And I'd love to be the first sailboat out on the bay this spring.
Bob23
Hey Bob, just now processed that you were tracking down a source for water in Koinoia's bilge. Isn't or wasn't she under a full winter cover? Still pondering how No Mas got enough water to fill up the bilge to bottom of motor mounts when on the hard and under a tarp over cabin area. Would have thought a full canvas cover would have kept your boat bone dry!
It would have...if I hadn't been too lazy to not install it last fall! First time she was stored naked over the winter. But, then I wouldn't have known I had a small leak. Think I found the source but I'll find out for sure in the next couple of days.
Bob23
I had about a gallon of water in my bilge. I am guessing that it came in through the area where I repaired the bulkhead. I am hoping that is all it is.
Lotta water in bilges in our area this spring! Must have been a confluence of meteorological events. We sure were surpassed. We did get an auspicious rain and weather right after it being uber cold. So thinking maybe lots of water in less than perfect seals with heavy rain, wind right after lots of cold and ice. Thinkin about that cover again!
I must confess: I snuck down to both of your boats and poured that water in!!!!!
Bob23
ok, that explains our boats...but what about yours? Heave, do you need to tell us anything?! :)
I hope that he didn't notice that the water was yellow.
Quote from: Bob23 on March 24, 2016, 05:22:58 AM
It would have...if I hadn't been too lazy to not install it last fall! First time she was stored naked over the winter. But, then I wouldn't have known I had a small leak. Think I found the source but I'll find out for sure in the next couple of days.
Bob23
Hey Bob, where was your leak located? Probably gunna wait till No Mas is splashed to track down any potential leak. She's a long haul from a hose bib and it takes two to track it down. Been hard to get "two" sets of eyes available. Still wondering if it was the cockpit filling up and spilling into the lockers. Heading back down to boat this coming week and will spend a little time pursing the clogged scupper scenario. With no sign of leak along the hull/deck joints, fittings, hatches, tarp over cabin, dry from anchor well up to the engine compartment, sitting on her trailer with a tilt to the stern for drainage, it is a puzzle. Last thing I expected. She has been in the water 24/7, 365 for the past 5 years (out once for bottom painting) and not a drop in the bilge. Well a few drops from the stuffing box. The only thing that has changed is the temperature as this ain't Mobile, Alabama and her being out of the water. Boats do subtly shift when not in the water. It's why many marine mechanics will not do the final drive shaft hook ups after a re-engine job until the boat has been returned to the water.
Heave, not sure how much your bulkhead area was leaking but even with constant 24/7 water pressure on a line from a geo-thermal hot water line at home it takes a few days to fill the bucket under a valve which is dripping a little (another one of those gotta deal with it eventually tasks!). The small bucket holds a gallon or so. Rain is not 24/7.
Well, the bulkhead leaked for months when it was wet. Snow sat up against it for a while, and I didn't really check my bilge at the end of the season either. I normally have a dry bilge.
The bulkhead leaked bad enough that I had a cushion soaked through. It had been there long enough to cause one hell of a mildew bloom.
That area had been leaking last year and I had a temporary fix with cetoling the old wood piece. That didn't last long and it was soaking wet when I removed the old piece. The new repair should be good for a while.
Glad to hear! Am hoping this coming week when I get back to the bay to get all the previous list items accomplished, with most importantly rig the boat! Gunna get hull painted in next couple and need to get her rigged first. All of the wish list items are now just that, wishes. Still planning a mid April splash but still don't even have my ground tackle squared away. It'll get done though. First nice day of sailing and i will forget all the work leading up to it. Sure you will too.
Rick:
Although I think I've found the source, which is the point where the drains start at the cockpit floor, I can't confirm that my repair worked because I haven't checked it. I should today. Today is final bottom paint coat, remove boot stripe painters tape, general cleanup and charge the battery and reinstall the bilge pump. And start the cleaning and waxing process for the hull sides.
Bob23
Hey Bob,
I also suspect the cockpit drains/scuppers are the culprit. Did the drain pull free from the fitting, fitting break, what was up with them? Maybe cold weather and ice related?
What was ur fix?
Rick
Nothing seemed to be broken. But there was a small space between the drain pipe and the actual hole in the cockpit floor. I squished some leftover 4000 in thar but have yet to test it. While the drain was full after I corked it up, that's where the water seemed to be coming from. I may check it later tonight and I'll let you know. I have toyed with installing completely new and larger drains using flexible hose to the transom. It's somewhere on the to do list...!
Bob23
On this same thought as this issue, is anyone else having a black messy crap on their transom coming from their scuppers? My scuppers are making a mess and I have to clean the area. Still, I want to figure out how to keep them from doing this. Replacement isn't expensive but it is not on the to do list.
it's a fact a number of boats on the hard had water in their bilges this year. I think the freezing weather may be a factor. If in the water the drains are less likely to freeze. Just speculation. May have to consider some sort of winter clothing for No Mas. She's never been out in the cold without a cover before. The PO didn't need the cover she had from the owner before him while slipped in Mobile, and unfortunately it dry rotted while in storage for those 5 years. May have to revive my winter cover thread again come fall!
Bob, do you take the bilge pump out every winter? Gunna check to see if mine still works so bringing the batteries back.
Rick:
I do remove the bilge pump each year. When she's covered, not a drop of anything touches the boat. It's a great cover system and should last 20 years but the framework is a bit complicated to set up. That's my fault- I seem to have a tendency to overcomplicate things at times. It's a system of wood frame with PVC ribs that make the boat look like an old wagon from a John Wayne western. But it works.
As far as the water in the bilge, mine was never bone dry and I resolved myself that it's a boat. I may always have a bit of water there. As long as it's not salt water, I'm ok with it.
Bob23
Morning Bob, just sent you an email.
Do you remove the bilge pump so it doesn't freeze? If water was in mine i suppose it may be toast.
Sources of leaks:
When I clean up my boat I use a small pressure washer. I notice when I open it back up that I have a small puddle on the settee cushions. It is apparent that the sliding hatch over the companionway when seriously flooded will allow water to enter. This also happens in a very heavy rain. I imagine that it would also happen when it is packed with ice and snow that is melting.
All these boats will eventually leak at the hull to deck joint specific to the area where the chain plates are attached either in a good rain or when the rail is buried on a close reach. I notice it as a trickle down the inside of the hull behind the cabinets that cover that area. This leak is so small on my boat that It never reaches the bilge before evaporating. This can be repaired by taking off the inside trim piece in that area at the hull to deck joint and caulking it. However it is not a permanent fix as the constant working of the stays and shrouds in this area will open it up again.
Even though my boat stays in the water 24/7 365 days a year uncovered, these two leaks have never put any water in the bilge. In fact to periodically test the bilge pump I have to pour some water into the bilge.
Some have complained of ports leaking. I have the new stainless ports and they have never leaked a drop, nor has my forward hatch or hawse pipe.
Hey Brack,
The ports on No Mas were seeping and i knew the 25 year old gaskets needed replacing but it was dead of winter already so i covered the entire cabin area with a heavy canvas tarp that used the mast as the ridge for it. NO water got in there anywhere. Hull deck joint if leaking does not show anywhere, bilge dry from anchor well to engine compartment which was full to the mounts. It is more than likely a cockpit issue. either as Bob found, or it simply filled up with water and spilled through the lockers into engine bilge. Scuppers may have been frozen still before a huge rain we had, may have become clogged, will know soon. She's never had water in her bilge so must admit was not as diligent in inspecting her. She's also never spent a cold winter naked before. Guess I might have to take her shopping for a winter coat before next winter.
All ports will eventually leak as the rubber gaskets wear, compress and become brittle with age. It doesn't matter weather bronze, stainless or aluminum. Just goota replace the gaskets when they do.
Rick:
I do remove the pump so it doesn't freeze. A while back I replaced all the gaskets in my round Perko portlights. I have one stubborn one that still leaks a bit. Next years list.
Bob23
Two steps forward....one back. Seems No Mas needs a new internal halyard for her roller reefing a CDI 2. Again PeterG will be on board with helping rerig it with mast up. Splash date just got later. Meanwhile, 40kt. winds with 24 as a low. April right?!
OBTW assume the CDI is probably the best for the application. It is 28 years old and appears to be in good shape. Any other thoughts? The new halyard gets paid for and shipped Monday.
Thoughts? Yeah...I should check mine! Thanks. Crazy winds up here lately. Glad Koinonia didn't go for her first swim on April 1st like I planned.
Have fun with your projects. Mine so far are: Wax hullsides, install bilge pump and instruments, clean out interior, buy beer for mast raising ceremony, raise mast with the help I'll enlist which this year will be K3v1n, drink said beer, splash boat the next day, bend on sails, go sailing. Simple, see?
Bob23
With Peter's help we got her stick up over two weeks ago. Was all excited till we noticed the internal halyard issue. It is way more difficult to replace with stick up, but even more difficult to de-rig and re- rig the entire boat! So it will be yet again another opportunity to learn a "how to" for our little boat. Splash is now two plus weeks away instead of this weekend. With the weather we have been having no one is going out anyway. Heck watched a younger couple (that next generation we are hoping to nuture) trying to raise their sails the first time for inspection on their 30ish foot boat sitting on the hard in strong winds! One gust rocked the jack stands. We hollered for them to pull the sails down. Too windy to go out, too windy to stay in!
Holy Crap! They actually tried to hoist their sails on the Jackstands. That is scary!
I should be in the water next week. I have a bit to do yet but it is coming along. I really want to wax the hull and I may do it the end of this week.
Let's cut to the real chase...I REALLY want to go sailing. I am hoping to be in the water and do a shake down cruise/sail next week at some point, weather depending of course.
Sailing this area in April:
It either blows a Gale
or you can't bend a sail!
Raising sails on the hard is no big deal if NO wind! The compounding problem was they were raising them slowly so you couldn't even release sheets to spill the wind. If they were all they way up you could release the sheets and spill most of the wind. Still better, wait till no wind! We did strip the genoa off of No Mas that same day but waited for the wind to subside and quickly unfurled and stripped it.
Already missing the simplicity of the CP16, but looking forward to the new horizons No Mas can take us. Now jus gotta get that list a little shorter!
ok add two new batteries to the list....new in early 2014, one dead, one still serviceable,go figure. Gunna get two new so they match and move to a series 27 from 24. Still haven't splashed yet and am sooooo ready!
That is odd that the batteries died that quickly. Did the water level in them get low?
I am surprised that you are going to a smaller battery. I have two big GC2 batteries and the solar charger. I feel that is a good power source for a long trip.
I am going in the water on Wednesday, if I can stand waiting one more day. The tide is favorable around 3:30. Tomorrow I have two coats of Cetol Gloss to do, I already have two coats of Cetol light on the wood. BTW, I HATE doing wood work. It is tedious and a pain in the butt.
Hey Heave, series 27 is larger than the previous 24 series. Not sure why, one cell is dead the others fine, looks like it might have been one of those rare but occurring dead on arrival situations. Making sure the charge path is good. You splashed yet?
Probably hitting the water on Wednesday. 2 more coats of Cetol gloss to go!
Congrats! Any Cetol for us is gunna be in her slip. :)
I didn't want to do it in her slip. I was able to get most of the wood down to bare wood, except for a few spots. I hate having the lighter spots but they will just have to do because I don't want to sand any more.
I have some extra bottom paint left over from last year and I am debating painting the water line down a few feet with the extra paint. We shall see what I do, but after the cetol gloss she is ready to splash.
2 coats of wax
New VHF with AIS and GPS integrated
Replaced leaking area on bulkhead
Put bushings in rudder housing
Painted rudder housing
Just cleaned cabin and whipped it down
Rewired mast
Installed VHF antenna
Worked on the pee hole on the outboard (salt water keeps on clogging it)
Installed pressurized water system
Installed new faucet
Installed cockpit shower
Made a gutter for my bimini/dodger connector
Cover for my autopilot
Added extra ballast in the bow area
and a few other things.
I have been busy. I am ready to go sailing.
New batteries installed-check
New internal halyard for furler-check (PeterG again was the key to that happening correctly)
Chain for anchor-check
New quick release pin for hayfield lever on inner stay-check
New piece of screen to repair hatch screen-check (still gotta install)
Sand and paint hull-yard is doing it next week
Spash! or so we think. :)
Many things yet to do but nothing that should keep us from sailing. They can wait.
Well the previous post gave the list accomplished in the last trip to the boat but there has been much done prior to that and it appears No Mas still has at least one more surprise for us that is keeping her out of the water. The steaming light doesn't work and there are only two leads coming from the mast. Usually you need three: one common ground, one for anchor light, and one for steaming light. This is discouraging as she is fully rigged. The lack of three leads was discovered when the connection between the cabin roof and mast was being replaced as it was in bad shape and had a short. Oh well.
Gotta admit, am missing the simplicity of that little 16 with zero electric, water, motor, hank on jib, main. No Mas is our "test kitchen" to learn the various systems that larger boats have before we ever get a larger hole in the water. Well she's proving to be quite the test!
This item will keep us from sailing until resolved. :(
I just rewired my mast. I have a new four prong deck plug because of this. I have a new anchor light wire and a new steaming light wire. They wire to the new deck plug. I had to route new wires down the compression post too. That was a bit of a job. I now have a separate switch for the steaming light and the anchor light. It was worth the trouble.
How much chain did you go with? I have 30' of 1/4" chain with a 22lb claw anchor. If I had the money it would have been a 25 pound Ronca.
Of course, after all of the work I did something failed and I have to replace it. Not good! Such is life, now my budget is shot for the summer.
Earlier on this thread, there was discussion as to the source of a mysterious leak which allowed outside water (read: rain water) into the bilge. I was having this problem and found the source, did a repair and I'm here to say, and happy to report that my simple repair did the trick! At the cockpit drain area on the cockpit floor, the sealant between the hole and the PVC pipe had disintegrated. There was a small space between the hole and the pipe which really didn't appear to be anything major but, after scraping the crud out from that small space and blowing it out with air, I could see this as a problem. After wiping it down with acetone, I hand pressed (with gloves, of course- duh!) a small amount of 4200 into the space, allowed it to dry and waited for rain. Well, it's been raining up here in NJ for quite a while and there is no water in the bilge! Kinda unbelievable but I'm here to state the facts!!!! Strange but true!!!!
Bob23
Hey Bob, Will have to see if No Mas remains dry but looking good! Bit the bullet and am having the electrical system redone and also proper battery boxes installed. Putting some foam in the mast to deaden the sound of halyards tinking and help keep wiring in place. This will bring all of the various adds that have been done up to standard and have them integrate like they should. She's gunna be right as rain now! New foiled rudder with SS hold down and rudder housing stripped, primed and awl gripped. Better than new. All other systems are good to go and we are itching to sail. Even got the hull so you could shave in the reflection! A little brite work (though good shape now) and she will finally be back to Bristol condition. :)
You should come visit again and we will go get PeterG in some trouble!
Sounds like your boat is gonna be one pretty ship! I didn't know about the zip tie on the wires in the mast when I rewired so I have the dreaded wire slap. I don't plan on changing it now. Next year I have a lot of work/maintenance/upgrades planned for the boat so it'll have to go on that list. This year the plan is to sail! If all goes well, Koinonia will go for her first swim of the year this coming Saturday. If all goes well. And she'll have a dry bilge!
Bob23
I did the wire ties up the mast when I rewired this past spring. Put them staggered about every 8". When I was out no slap in my mast.
Do yourself a favor and get a wire pusher from Harbor Freight or Lowes. You can use a 50' fish tape and that worked the best.
Another hint...run each wire run as a separate run, don't tie them together. I originally tried this but I couldn't get the anchor light and vhf coax up the mast past the spreaders. When I ran it separately it went easily. The nice thing is that if I have an issue with one wire I can just run that wire.
I also upgraded the deck plug to a 4 prong deck plug (1 wire for anchor light, 1 wire for steaming light).