Has anyone seen a Compac 23 with a Gimbaled stove?
I miss hot food/drink while out sailing. Lunch was a big deal on my Catalina 30 and I used my stove very frequently to make stuff while underway.
I was wondering if anyone has some ideas for some options.
There use to be a few companies that made single burner gimbals stoves but they don't make them anymore.
Origo still sells gimbal kits for the 1500 and 3000 stoves. I'm sure you could build a custom pull out counter top with a 1500 gimbaled into it.
(http://caravansplus.com.au/images_tiff/2012/origo_gimbals3m.jpg)
That would probably fit better than something like a SeaCook or Seaswing stove. If you wanted to try you could build a DIY version of one of these with a propane burner and mount it to the bottom of a metal bucket. Hang the bucket and it will act like a gimbal.
Shawn
Hey Heave, check the ebay item out. They are indeed discontinued but here's one for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/marine-stove
Have sea rails on our single burner propane princess but never got into cooking while underway. Always used a thermos for hot soup, coffee, etc. that i made earlier.
What fuel source are you interested in?
also not sure the size but looks to be compact. would consider this as a replacement for our stove if ever to wish a gimbaled unit. Looks to have nice adjustable pot holders.
Kinda pricey though.
http://www.goodboatgear.com/detail/pd/79512/2-Burner-Gimbaled-Counter-Top-Stove?gclid=CMSjnNL1-skCFcOQHwodtUMD7w
(http://smittypaddler.com/cds/cdr/ec2012/photos/large/stove/IMG_5717.JPG)
This is based on a simple trangia alcohol burner stove and cook set.
Shawn
I saw that one on ebay, NoMas. It is a thought but really pricey for a USED stove.
I have thought about building one. It can't really be that hard but my motivation isn't as high to do that right now.
A lot can be said for having a hot meal, especially on a cool misty day. It helps a lot and it is a big comfort feature. Another nice thing is hot tea when underway on a cool day.
I wonder why they stopped manufacturing all of these stoves. I guess it was a fire hazard but I haven't read about anyone having issues with them.
If you keep watching ebay you can probably get a Sea Cook or Sea Swing much cheaper. One went for under $65 a month ago. There was also the Minigalley but it was mostly for heating water. If you just want hot water the Jetboil stoves have a hanging kit that would act as a gimbal.
The consignment shop near my dock usually has a few Bremer Sea Swings there. Haven't really looked to see if they are complete but I will check the next time.
Shawn
Thanks for looking. Maybe I will brainstorm oneday and invent something to fill the gap. Then, maybe I can patent it, sell it, and make a little money. Said money can then go into the boat fund and the boat fund will grow. As the boat fund grows my boat gets better equipped. MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you thinking propane, alcohol?
Not sure which one yet.
Hey Heave, know you tend to do diligent research on stuff so sure you will develop a well founded opinion, however one of the factors in selecting our boat was being able to have a professionally installed propane system with sensors, solenoid controls, and of course thermo coupled appliances. We did however have the previous fuel storage area available for the tank storage as the replacement diesel tank (12 gallons) is underneath the cockpit just aft of engine.. That is a biggie!!!. All propane tanks must vent and thus can't be below decks on even in the cockpit lockers. You don't want to move the gas tank to those areas either as gas is explosive (guess you cold install blowers but why?). The only way propane would work would be if you either had a separate above deck locker for it (God knows where!) or use the disposable propane canister.
Hope this helps in your thinking. We should make a list of stuff to share at the CBMWG!
Like your evil thinking on growing your boat fund!
Propane would be okay if you made a storage area on the rear rail. that is a possibility.
I am not extremely keen on the idea of propane because you have to find adequate storage for a propane locker. I remember that from the Catalina 30.
There are so many considerations for this. I actually want some storage for my portable cylinders because a carry two of those for the grill and one of my stoves. This is probably why I really like the gimbaled propane stove set-ups best.
what about a pvc pipe with caps on it for the propane storage? you can use a stainless hose clamp to mount it against a stanchion, etc.
PVC works great as a propane locker.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15475866906_e9edecca2e_c.jpg)
That held three but I typically only used it for two. I didn't use enough propane to need three and they get rusty over time in there. Some ventilation holes would likely help.
Shawn
I have seen that Idea and I have considered it. It would work good and be cheap. For me, though, I do care about aesthetics and I would rather have the tanks stored differently.
I have thought about taking a cockpit combing and putting it in the side of the area where the fuel tank well is. I would put the propane cylinders in there. It would vent, it would be out of the weather, and it would be hidden. The only pain in the butt is that you need to open up the fuel tank well and move the tank out of the way to get to the propane.
Right now, when underway, I have a rod that I put in the back of my cockpit. It sections off a small area for a 2 gallon gerry jug of fuel and I put 2 propane cylinders there. They get wet when it rains but it isn't a big deal to me.
I'm in the early stages of making one that will be similar to Shawn's, however it will be shorter for only two cylinders, and it will be quick attach/release, because I don't plan to leave it on the boat all the time, just when doing overnight cruises. When I get it worked out, will post what I've done.
I would definitely be interested into seeing what you do, Brackish.
Quote from: brackish on December 29, 2015, 12:16:10 PM
I'm in the early stages of making one that will be similar to Shawn's, however it will be shorter for only two cylinders, and it will be quick attach/release, because I don't plan to leave it on the boat all the time, just when doing overnight cruises. When I get it worked out, will post what I've done.
It wasn't exactly "quick connect", but I just lashed a small length of PVC (with caps) to the stern rail to hold propane canisters on outings when I planned to use the grill. You could use webbing and plastic buckles to do something similar that could be removed quickly. I was considering making a more permanent propane locker. I think you could still do it out of the PVC pipe, just mount it inside the cockpit locker (high up), attach an appropriately rated vapor discharge hose from the lowest point on the pipe to a through hull above the waterline. But I sold the boat before I got to that project.
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"just mount it inside the cockpit locker (high up), attach an appropriately rated vapor discharge hose from the lowest point on the pipe to a through hull above the waterline. But I sold the boat before I got to that project."
That is essentially what my Sabre has but it is a commercial product. It has a vertical tube mounted into one of the cockpit seats that has a flush cap on it. It is sealed to a drain at the bottom to vent propane/water out a through hull that is above the water line. It held a 5 pound skinny tank to feed to propane stove in the galley. I didn't want propane in the boat so I swapped the stove out for a two burner Origo (the one out of Serenity actually) and use that locker to hold 1 pound tanks for the Magma grill.
Shawn
That actually looks worse in that picture due to the perspective. If it were two high you wouldn't even see if from the cockpit but I wanted it higher to make it easier to reach the tanks.
"I have thought about taking a cockpit combing and putting it in the side of the area where the fuel tank well is. I would put the propane cylinders in there. It would vent, it would be out of the weather, and it would be hidden."
Do you mean where the outboard tank goes? That is getting pretty close to the water line, might not be able to be assured it will always vent. With a full boat the cockpit scuppers can be underwater. Probably me being paranoid but a leaking tank in that condition might be able to get into the bilge. Propane would fill the cockpit base and then leak in through the manual bilge pump opening.
Shawn
So far has never been a problem with our bulk tank in that location. Was professionally installed with two hatches into the sides of combing one for access to bilge plump firing and one for the stern rail line for a grill. and also one into the front of the fuel locker cover so as to access shut of valves without removing the cover. Additional vents prob would not be necessary as you are talking about portable non venting tanks. That pvc arrangement clearly would do the job however.
We do also have a sensor system with electronic solenoid that completely shuts off all propane if any detected or if electric out. also wish to treat propane with respect!
For code there must be no fittings between such valve and any appliance, which also have thermocouples shut offs and also sensors in place. Bottom line, have it done professionally if not using the small portable tanks.
Heave Too,
I found an old Sea Swing and converted it to propane with a backpacking burner. The 1 pound propane bottles last a long time for me, and you can buy them almost anywhere. I carry two backups, they do rust readily so I store them in plastic pitchers with sealing lids. I have used the Forespar in the past but could not locate one anywhere. They ceased production a couple of years ago. The Sea Swing holds a wider variety of cooking utensils.
Ron
found a source for a gimbaled single burner stove with sea rails. It either surface mounts or recessed. It is meant to hook to a bulk system though and it's a little pricey at $150 + with the gimbal kit. The link is to an Australian company that sells it. Just for information purposes.
http://oceansolutions.com.au/galley/cooktops/eno-atoll-gimbal-kit.html
It is made in France and has to be special ordered by Force 10. 8-9 weeks lead time. Not sold in this country otherwise but pretty popular overseas. Maybe someday.