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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => CP-16's => Topic started by: afterhatch on November 19, 2015, 02:17:24 PM

Title: Mooring Hardware
Post by: afterhatch on November 19, 2015, 02:17:24 PM
Hello I'm looking at a c16 with teak bowsprit.  I posted up an intro in the Lounge section.  My question concerns mooring a c16 through the summer.  My bay can get pretty rough and the mooring hardware needs to be right.  I've seen a few c16s near me but none on moorings, all on trailers.

The standard bow cleat is too small for my pennant to pass through.  There is also no chock at the edge to secure the pennant.  I have seen some chocks mounted to the bow sprit but I am concerned this could fail in a rough anchorage.   The boat pounding in a gale might take out the bowsprit and possibly the forestay.  The chock really needs to be fastened right to the edge of the deck.

Here is a pic of what I mean
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e286/slojoe/bow_zps2kdaxpnx.jpg)

My question is, has anybody removed the factory bow cleat and replaced it with a bigger one?  I would also need to move it as far aft on the hump as possible for a better angle between the bowsprit and rail stanchion, where I would fasten a chock to the glass.  So that the pennant would not chafe on the sprit or the rail in a blow.

Has anybody modified a c16 to hang on a mooring?  Is there sufficient thickness throughout the raised hump in the photo to back a mooring cleat?  Is there enough room inside the bow to crawl up and secure fastener hardware from the underside of the deck?  thanks for any help

Title: Re: Mooring Hardware
Post by: JTMeissner on November 19, 2015, 05:29:52 PM
I don't have a bowsprit, but can tell you that the cleat on a non-sprit 16 is placed further aft.  I put bow navigation lights at about the spot you have your cleat, and my cleat is further back. You can see the original layout in this photo, and the cleat behind the light in the second.
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/com-pac%2016%20pics/BaBaLeLe/d72dc26ca6a4367e78eda18e734bf998.jpg)

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/com-pac%2016%20pics/BaBaLeLe/Fiberglass%20Repairs/6f5d8e56075f5f767898f7f108fd174c.jpg) (http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/CPYOA/media/com-pac%2016%20pics/BaBaLeLe/Fiberglass%20Repairs/6f5d8e56075f5f767898f7f108fd174c.jpg.html)

I have bow chocks to install, but have not yet.  Area is pretty clear up there on the inside, getting tight right at the peak, but the flat thickened pad is accessible.  I don't foresee any issues with putting a taller/bigger cleat there, and you can even reinforce the backing from the inside. I think I'd put the chocks right on the edge just in front of where the pulpit stanchions connect.

-Justin
Title: Re: Mooring Hardware
Post by: hinmo on November 20, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
I have a 82 with the bowsprit option. I moor in a harbor that occasionally has very rough seas. I had/have concerns with the mooring pennants and setup, but have survived so far. I will check my chock layout and report back I know my pennant has dual eyelets and both sides just barely fit. I use the factory cleat.


  (BTW - is it "pennant" or "pendant"?)
Title: Re: Mooring Hardware
Post by: afterhatch on November 20, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Thanks for the info, maybe i should be looking for a boat with no bowsprit...
Title: Re: Mooring Hardware
Post by: hinmo on November 20, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
sorry - forgot to check the config.

In one good blow this year, the "wire" holding the bowsprit down to the hull, frayed the pendant somewhat....the pendant was new at the beginning of the season....I might stretch it another season

Heres a link to "my harbor" during Sandy (not my post). There's about 1000 boats moored  in full-swing summer, wide open to the SE. I had pulled my boat for Sandy as did the majority of the folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRO85Wsi65k&list=PLMAMV106nN3z6VadwBvyDydcweRRsMU-q&index=6