I have annoying dings in my top side that I would like to repair. How should I make the repair. The deck is that common tan color. Should I worry about water getting I these breaks?. Thanks
Peter
Here is a pic of one of the "dings" in my top side.
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I am considering two repair products.
Magicezy http://www.magicezy.com/
Fibre Glass-Evercoat Co Gel Coat Repair Kit http://www.amazon.com/Fibre-Glass-Evercoat-Gel-Coat-Repair/product-reviews/B0000AXTGZ
Does anyone have experience with these products?
Thanks
I've used evercoat products and they work fine. On my boat I've made repairs to the white non-skid on my cockpit seats using a tube of evercoat white which I purchased at West Marine. Here's the link:
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/evercoat--gel-coat-scratch-patch--P004_120_006_503
The thing about gelcoat repairs is that you will never get an exact match, even if you mix up your own tint. You have to learn to accept "good enough". As for the repair needed shown in your photo, I would use an exacto knife or some type of pointy tool to remove any loose gelcoat around the damaged area, blot with acetone and apply evercoat white from the tube. Yea you will have a corner of white edging into the tan but the tan looks pretty white anyway.
I had that annoying black exposed under my chips as well. Once they were covered and no longer caught my attention every time I stepped on the boat, I was very happy even though I can see the repair if I look for it. Guests I have onboard never see it.
You can try just using evercoat white from the tube. If you don't like it, use a dremel to remove it. You can then can mix your own tint to see if you could do better. Could save you a lot of time (tinting takes awhile unless you are extremely lucky) and money.
Thanks Marc!
I agree with your thoughts on the color match being almost impossible to duplicate. In looking at the Evercoat repair products I found a tube of buff color. That will be closer than the white. So I will order a tube of that and give it a try.
You can get the exact color gelcoat from the factory. I didn't know this until recently when I read the post on the Sunday Cat being restored. I ended up buying a bottle of gelcoat to match my upper deck and a pint for the hull. I bought the Evercoat kit a while back. It is a good kit but it is very difficult to try and match colors. From my limited experience I recommend buying the factory gelcoat. You will also need hardener and acetone for cleaning the surface area prior to gelcoating.
http://www.com-pacyachts.com/
Chris
"Second Wind"
Thanks Chris!
I call Hutchins and ordered the proper color gelcoat from them for under 10 plus s/h. Of course, it will not be a perfect match as the boat has faded, but it will be much closer than any other alternative.
I only have to get the hardener locally.
Peter
Would you happen to know how far back they carry the gelcoat colors for? My boat is a 1999 and I have a few spots I'd like to tend to.
Marc
Marc,. I did not ask them how far back they keep the colors for. Give them a call. Mine is a 2004, he suggested they still use the same deck color today.
Peter
Peter,
I didn't mention this in my earlier response but you will also need a gelcoat paste. You add this paste to the color pigment and hardener. You mix all three together and you end up with paste so you can spread it over the surface you want to cover.
I hate to mention this, as I am a DIY kind of guy, but I had a couple of small repairs professionally repaired. I am lucky to have one of the best fiberglass repair shops in the SE located a few miles from where i live. Color matching was perfect, work was done in two days, and cost $147. Sometimes, I would rather just pay someone to do it right. Not often, but sometimes. I figured by the time I bought all the stuff, I was going to be over $100 anyway. Color matching is tedious, if not impossible for a beginner, so why not? Couldn't be happier with the results!
Neil,
Please share info on that fiberglass repair shop.
Thanks
Chris,
So, what Hutchins is sending is only the color pigment? Not the gelcoat paste with color in it? What is the mixing ratio?
Thanks for helping!
Peter
http://marine-pro.com/ These guys are fantastic. If you look at their site, they have repaired boats where the entire side of a boat was ripped off down to the flotation, the repairs were so good, the owners opted to have the other side restored as well. It is a production quality shop. These guys have been around.
Thanks Neil
Peter,
You will just be getting the color pigment. I already had the Evercoat kit so I just used the gelcoat paste and hardener from that kit. Being in Florida there are probably several boat supply places around that may have the gelcoat paste and hardener. West Marine may even have them that you can buy separately.
I just mix it together until it is a uniform past consistency. The hardener ratio is 4 drops for every teaspoon (1/6 oz) of blended gelcoat paste. I would also recommend watching a few Youtube videos on gelcoat repair.
Chris
Chris,
I wanted to thank you again for suggesting I get the proper color gelcoat from Hutchins. It arrived yesterday. I have called them two times since then to confirm that what they sold me was gelcoat mixed with pigment. Both persons I talked to said that all I need to do is add the hardener.
I have two vertical surfaces that need repair. They said it was ok to add filler to it, to stiffen it.
I have three spots masked off and ready to repair.
Peter
Glad to see you found a boat, Peter!
I would offer advice on gelcoat repair, but you saw the product of my efforts on Wily Conch so you'd know not to listen! ;)
Hi Tom!
Good to hear from you. Your repair was fine.
I'm having fun cleaning and repairing my new to me sun cat. I ended up taking off all the extra lines and controls. I wanted to see how it sailed and behaved in its original state. Removed: downhaul, lazy jacks, topping lift,. So far,i like the way it looks and sails. If I add back anything it will be the topping lift.
I'm struggling to get her to heave to. I need to master this so that I will be able to reef single handed or to just take a break. Any suggestions?
Peter
Sun Cats are very well behaved if you just turn across the wind and let go the sheet. Parking mode.
Not very useful for reefing. The end of the boom is too far away and the slides don't want to move at that angle.
Really my best suggestion is to fire up the engine and either use an autopilot or tiller lock to head upwind.
As you saw, my reefing lines end on the boom and it is possible to head up, quickly reef, then fall back off. It's also possible to not be quick enough. Cheating a bit by using the engine is annoying but also more relaxing.
Things went horribly wrong when I decided to shake out a reef during a race at the Sun Cat Nationals a few years back. It would have looked super-smooth as I had a very skilled guest helmsman aboard so I could focus on the lines. Problem was, my gaff downhaul made its way around the nav light and snagged. By the time I figured it out and got up there to free it, we were beam to wind, reefing lines out of reach. It was ugly and cost us far more time than we gained by having the extra sail for the rest of the race.
Well, Im pretty much done with the repairs of the dings on my 2004 SC. I purchased gelcoat from the Hutchins. We are so lucky to have the builder right here in Florida. Very easy to work with them.
Thought I would show you the results of the repair. I know its not perfect. It was my first time working with gelcoat. Im happy with the results.
THANKS to all of you that helped me with this project!
Peter
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