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Title: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: archimedes on February 02, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
and how

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I'm about to buy this boat and noticed this spider web like crack in the transom apparently from the top bolt of the outboard bracket.

Should I be concerned about this or does it look minor enough to not worry about it.

FYI there is no backing plate of any consequence on the other side,  which I will correct.

As always,   thanks for any feedback.
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: Bob23 on February 02, 2015, 06:58:25 PM
Yes, but Mac will tell you how to do it. Use stainless or aluminum for the backing plate, not wood.
Bob23
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: HeaveToo on February 02, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
You will definitely want to put a backing plate on it like you suggested.  Those marks are probably from someone trailering with the outboard left on the bracket.

If I was to re-do the bolts when I was putting a new backing plate on I would probably use butyl tape and countersink the outside screw holes:  http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware

It probably isn't a big deal.  Check for water penetration but I doubt you have any.  I have seen that before on a previous boat of mine.  
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2015, 04:30:07 PM
Appears to be too much stress at the top, meaning too much motor at some point, or also, something hanging off it at somepoint that was too much.
The bolts Hutchins did was typically with regular washers, that tend to pull into the backer.

What I suggest is 2 pieces of aluminum, one that is on the outside, to cover the cracks, which you will seal to the back of the boat, that will also act as a strengthening plate. make that look nice, and it will look as if it should have been there somewhat. and the second plate for the inside.

If you wish to do Gelkote, you will find it tedious, and wont match in the end due to age. Grind out the cracks, checking the laminate and then repair as needed or fill the cracks with the gelcoat. sand the spot, then coat and fair to the best of your abilities.

If it were me, I would do the double plate, like 1/4 inch plates, make the edges real nice on the exterior plate, shiny side out, and Voila'! cracks disappear, and bolstered the mount!

Mac
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: archimedes on February 03, 2015, 07:54:06 PM
Thanks.  Yeah,  I'm not really interested in doing  Gelkote.

I like the aluminum idea though. 

So something along the lines of this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8020-Inc-Aluminum-Rounded-Oval-Plate-2455-6-5-x-25-x-18-Long-/331222220991?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1e6200bf

under the motor mount so it would look like a "base" for the motor mount?
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: MacGyver on February 03, 2015, 08:00:10 PM
Yes, but I was thinking like a full plate behind it, but you could do 2 separate ones (one for each side) as the main holder will be the one you have inside to help stiffen it all up and be the backer.
By round over, I also just mean that the edges are soft, not sharp so that you wouldn't cut your hands if grabbing the boat from behind when swimming up to it.

Mac
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: Tom L. on February 03, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Might want to consider a 3/4" thick star board plate on the outside. Either black or white would look good and like it was there all the time.
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: Cats Paw on February 06, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Myself I would use a good grade of Stainless Steel Plates rather than Aluminum.  More cost upfront. Hard to polish out the pimples that may develop with in the Aluminum. I think Aluminum would be more pron to galvanic decay by coming into contact with another type of metal such as the motor mount.
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: MacGyver on February 07, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
Cats paw makes a great point on the SS, and Tom L on the starboard.
I didnt think about salt water in my equation (Marina I run is on fresh water.....) but any of those options should work well.

Starboard works well with common wood working tools, and I have heard a router works with it nicely.

Mac
Title: Re: Does this need to be fixed
Post by: archimedes on February 07, 2015, 01:43:09 PM
So I would first bolt the Starboard to the transom and then attached the motor mount to the transom trough the Starboard?