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Title: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: rbh1515 on December 30, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
I have ordered a Horizon Day Cat, and many people recommended getting a boomkicker, which I went ahead and ordered.
Is there any issue with lowering the mast with the Mastendr system if you have a boomkicker?  Doesn't the boom have to slide down at the mast before you lower the mast?  Or is there no issue?
Rob
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: capt_nemo on December 30, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
rbh1515,

As long as the boom is below the hinge, a "normal " position with halyards free when lowering the sail and gaff, there should be no problem.

Craig, local friend, owner of a Horizon Cat, and CPYOA Forum contributor, has a Boomkicker and has not reported any issues with it.

capt_nemo
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: rbh1515 on January 01, 2015, 12:17:34 AM
See pic
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t476/rbh1515/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/823B8FF4-0D3B-48CA-876F-4D521C2D3E45_zpsyuduqgas.jpg) (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/rbh1515/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-10/823B8FF4-0D3B-48CA-876F-4D521C2D3E45_zpsyuduqgas.jpg.html)
It looks to me that with the boomkicker The "resting position" is well above the hinge...and without disengaging the boomkicker not sure you could get it below the hinge.
Rob
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: Craig on January 01, 2015, 11:57:17 AM
I just pull the pin on the boom fitting and let the slide slip out of the track. The support rods lie flat on the cabin while still attached to the mast. My installation has the mast fitting about 10-12 inches above the deck and the boom fitting a little further aft on the boom than in the above pic to compensate for the higher mast mounting. When the mast is up raise the boom,slide the boom fitting into the track, replace the pin and you are done. Adds a few minutes to the setup but no big deal.
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: rbh1515 on January 01, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
Excellent...thanks!!
Rob
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: Craig on January 04, 2015, 11:49:50 AM
Here is a pic of Kailani. You can see location of mast and boom fittings.  (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u105/Craigpg/IMG_0094_zpsc1283257.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/Craigpg/media/IMG_0094_zpsc1283257.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: rbh1515 on January 05, 2015, 01:01:22 PM
Yours is in a different position than others.  If this works well that's how I will place mine.  The HDC has a vent up front on the cabin top instead of a hatch.  I was concerned that with the usual placement that the boomkicker would bump into vent.
Rob
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: hoddinr on April 08, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
My boom kicker (SunCat) needed an additional rail mounted behind the one that came with it in order to lower the boom below the hinge. 
Just pull the pin, let it slide back past the 1st rail onto the second rail to the next to the last position.  Put pin back in.

Ron
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: Tom L. on April 08, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
Ron, How do you get the pre-bend in the boomkicker when you put the mast up. Is it as simple as just raising the boom out of the gallows and repining the boom slide. Does it take two people one to raise the boom one to pin.

Does your boomkicker hold the boom up high enough to clear the gallows? Finally do you find it necessary to have a boom vang especially if you are off the wind.

I have a topping lift and really don't like it because it always seems to get in the way of the gaff.

Tom L.

Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: hoddinr on April 12, 2015, 09:56:05 PM
I just found your post, Tom, regarding the boom kicker.

I pin the boom kicker in place after raising the sail. 

I'll get back to you on this.  I'm no expert on boom kickers.

Ron
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: Craig on April 13, 2015, 09:11:28 AM
Tom's idea of adding an additional section of Boomkicker is excellent! I am going to order one to install on Kailani. On my installation I can use the boom gooseneck downhaul to adjust the height of the boom above the gallows. As to the use of a vang, I do not use one since it is one more complication I don't really need. That being said the Boomkicker does not replace a vang. What it does do, in addition to holding up the boom, is stabilize the boom in light air, reducing "slatting". I am also  looking for a better clevis pin for the Boomkicker track  that does not require a circular retainer ring (which can be a PITA at times).
Title: Re: Lowering the mast with a boomkicker
Post by: Tim Gardner on April 17, 2015, 05:58:19 PM
go to www.crealock.com (http://www.crealock.com) to check out this locking pin:

(http://crealock.com/images/clevis_in_use.jpg)

I think it's cool albeit expensive