Com-Pac Yacht Owners Association

Dear CP27 guys who have the Isomat Isofurl furler (are you out there?):

I am in the uncomfortable position of needing to order new sails without ever having sailed the 27 or even raised the mast. The question is whether to have the UV protection strip installed on the port or starboard side of the genoa.

Like most Com-Pacs I've seen, my furling control line is on the port side of the boat. But the furler itself is agnostic about whether the line enters the drum on the high side (ie. pulling the line rotates drum counterclockwise and wraps sail such that UV strip should be on starboard side of sail) or on the low side (ie. pulling line rotates drum clockwise and UV strip would be on port side of sail).

Any opinions about best solution for this particular furling system would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Wes

Hey Wes:
The roller furling set up on our boat was on the port side.  I removed the roller furling and had hanks put on the jib.  I will check to see which side the UV strip was on when I go to the boat today.
regards charlie

Wes,
On Miss B. my furling is a Harkin setup but I run the UV strip on the port but mostly because the furling line is positioned on the port side as well.  I'm not sure one is better than the other.
Capt'n Jim

Charlie: thanks, I will eagerly await your answer.

Jim - so if your UV strip is on the port side of the sail, your furling line must enter the drum on the bottom side. So a pull on the line (to furl the sail) would rotate the drum clockwise as viewed from above. Am I understanding that correctly? And you have had no problems with the bottom entry?

Thanks so much to both of you for the fast response; hope I can return the favor.

Wes

Wes,
I have the same furler as you with both the line and UV on the port side.
BobK

Wes:

Our Harken curler leads off the bottom and down the port side, as Cap'n Jim described, furling clockwise; no problems related to that as far as I can tell.  FWIW...I did add a furling line turning block at the base of stern pulpit.  The original set-up created too much of a trip hazard for me, coming from the mid-ship stanchion and up to a block on the side of the cockpit coaming; may be worth considering if yours has the standard set-up.

Bill

Mine's on the port side, same as my furler line. 'I guess it doesn't make me no never mind'.
Can always re-roll it at the dock.

The furler line runs port side drum to a block located on each stanchion to a cleat on a 15 degree slope
located just forward of the portside winch on the OUTSIDE of the cockpit combing.  


skip.

Bill - leading the furler line further aft is a very interesting idea and makes a lot of sense for single handing. Any chance you could post a picture of your setup?

Wes

Hey Wes, the UV strip was on the post side of the genoa.
regards charlie

Port side UV strip wins the survey - I shall proceed. Thank you all for the advice! Now I know who to blame if it doesn't work out  ;)

Wes

Wes:

The boat's on the hard for the winter a half hour away in Deltaville.  Next time I go over, probably tomorrow, I'll try to get a usable shot.  The trick then will be to upload it to the forum.  But I'll take a whack at it!

Stand by.

Wes:

Beauty day here--sunny & 71 an hour ago--but temperature falling precipitously with snow-sleet-ice-something forecast overnight / tomorrow.  That said, there's a shot in Photobucket of the block as fastened to the stern pulpit (despite doing my best to follow all instructions, I can't seem to load it in here but at least you have the address).

[img]http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/CPYOA/media/IMG_0783.jpg.html/[img]

Stepping back gives perspective to see the line as it leads to the block, then the cleat.

[img]http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/CPYOA/media/IMG_0782.jpg.html/[img]

The bronze cleat replaces the original stainless but is in the same place.  With the furling line led to that cleat from the block on the mid-ship stanchion (above the galley), it seemed in the way every time I went forward--or came aft--on the port side.  Now it's less in the way.

Hope that's of help in some way.  Let me know if any of this needs clarification.

Stay warm!

(http://)Looks like wrong facebook code. And I see a problem with the 'beach-trees-blue sky' icon. Park your coursor on that and it should say 'insert image'. Click it.  Click on Modify message to make changes and fix this.

That's the icon next to the right of the 'red pin wheel'

I added spaces so I could show the set-up. You'll see the differences between what's correct and what's upcuffed.

This is wrong-->  [ img ]   / [ img ]   Should be --> [ img ]   [ / img ]  This what you'll see with the 'insert image' icon.


[ img ] * [ /img ] <-- copy paste the Photobucket Direct code where the * is.   I can't tell if the correct Photobucket code was used. I'll try yours.

Let's see what happens. (http://) Nope! ... Note if the Direct code is not correctly placed where the * is, you'll also get a black box with a white X in the box when you click post or save.  

(http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/CPYOA/media/IMG_0782.jpg.html/) ... Not the correct code copied and pasted where the * goes. Hint: The correct code will end with  jpg

Here is my correct Direct Code from my Photobucket. Looks like this. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/1930fordroadster/ATTO0001-1.jpg

Your Photobucket code looks like this.
http://s1125.photobucket.com/user/CPYOA/media/IMG_0783.jpg.html/

Take my Direct Code and copy paste it in where the * goes. And you'll see my Photobucket picture.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/1930fordroadster/ATT00001-1.jpg)

skip.

Ahhhhh.  The icon's not the problem; nor is it placement; it's the source of the address.  The correct code / link is not the one at the top; it's over in the "Links to share this photo" box on the side.  Okay.  Got it.  One more time!

Here's the turning block:
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/IMG_0783.jpg)

Line to block, then up to cleat:
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/IMG_0782.jpg)
Right now, the line's slack; no tension on it 'cause the sail's off for the winter.

Long way to go.  Hope it's worth all your effort, Skip!

Anything to help out.

Kind of sort of looks like my set-up too.
And maybe some of our new members will benefit too.
It's not easy to post pics.

skip.

Bill - thanks for the pics; very helpful. One more question: not counting the block in the photo, how many stanchion mounted blocks do you use to lead the furler line aft? One on every port stanchion?

Wes

Roger that.  There's a Garhauer block on the bow pulpit, just inches from the drum; then one on each of the two port-side stanchions.  Maybe the factory set-up is not a problem for others but it looked to me like the proverbial accident waiting to happen.  I sail mostly by myself.  Jumping out of the cockpit, hustling forward to grab a piling, dock line or mooring pennant I didn't want to have to think about my foot hooking the furling line.  Also, while there's some added friction with each additional block, this set-up seems to give me a bit more purchase when hauling in the line.

Hmm. So, in addition to adding the aft block, did you also relocate the other blocks in any way to reduce the tripping hazard? Not sure I understand how the rear block affects the chance of tripping. My sailing experience on the 27 is zero except for a ride as guest on Charlie's boat last weekend.

Wes

Yeah, not the best explanation, I realize.  Neither do I have the ideal shot to show what I'm talking about.  But if you zoom in a bit, maybe this'll give you the idea:
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/db9b1848-7046-4215-add9-e73a63d85af5.jpg)
You can see the furling line as it comes off the furler to the block on the bow pulpit; the blocks are at the base of each stanchion at deck level.  The line used to come up from there at an angle to the cleat on the outside of the coaming.  That meant, when stepping out of the cockpit, the line was taut just above the ankle.  Splash!  Does that make more sense?  I feel safer with this arrangement.

Thanks, explanation very clear now, but fyi the picture is not viewable; Photobucket error says "Sorry, this person moved or deleted this image." Problem with the link code, maybe?

Wes

Dang it!  No.  Just too many buttons on Photobucket for a technophobe like me.  I moved it to the "album" tab after the initial post.  So here's another try:

(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/Com-Pac%2027/db9b1848-7046-4215-add9-e73a63d85af5.jpg)