So what does everybody have planed to get done to there boat over the winter ?
So far my list is as follows. Not sure how much I am going to get done with a 3 year and a new baby a month ago. Luckily I hulled the boat out a week before she was born so I did not have that to worry about. I am going to try to get the most import ones fixed before the spring. I was hoping to get everything done but at this point it is not going to happen.
1. Repair mast Step
2. Fill in old motor mount holes. Previous owner just used silicon)
3. Sand and fill holes for Eyebrow trim
4. Repair cracks on deck at Hull to Deck Seam ( few spots)
5. Cover compass hole in cockpit with teak plate
6. Replace backing plates for mid deck cleats Previous owner installed them and the wood is moldy
7. New Halyards ( extra-long)
8. Run Rigging back to cockpit
9. Replace cabin carpet
10. Repair/Replace bilge pump
11. Jib Down Haul
12. Bottom Paint
13. Brightwork
14. Go Sailing ;D
1. Pull out drawer/tray under the companionway with either a place for a large ice chest or a custom ice chest built into the drawer. The plan is in my head.
2. A teak hinged replacement for the gas tank cover with brackets for my new cockpit table and built in beverage holders.
3. With the exception of the drop boards, the aforementioned gas tank cover, and the board in the bowsprit, going to make/acquire a complete replacement set of teak for the boat so that during the winter I can refinish one set at my leisure without having to worry about leaving plugged holes on the boat each time.
4. replace the main halyard, I can see some worn spots on it.
5. wire in my alternator for the sail pro, just never have gotten around to it.
6. At winter end, pull the boat, put a fresh bottom coat on, and change out all of the taping on the hull.
7. At the same time, modify the rudder assembly either with a shear pin, side tang brackets, or lift assembly bending or all of the above to eliminate the problem of the rudder kicking up slightly when under significant pressure.
8. make an anchor riding sail.
9. Make a large above the boom sun awning.
10. send the main to Sailcare for an eight year overhaul and see if they can convert it to loosefooted which is how I am using it now anyway.
11. permanently install the potable water tank that I've had for a year.
12. lead all halyard and control lines for the asymmetrical and its dousing sock back to the cockpit.
I think I got half of last years projects done, so that is probably what I'll accomplish this year.
Sand and paint the interior
Make new hatchboards
Attempt to make a foiled rudder
Design, build, and install a new bowsprit
Should keep me busy for a while
cockpit table
came across this design and it has me inspired.
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?5393-Cockpit-Table (http://www.ericsonyachts.org/infoexchange/showthread.php?5393-Cockpit-Table)
SAIL, SAIL, and SAIL some more, in the beautiful water and weather of SW Florida.
And, when not sailing, MOTOR, MOTOR, and MOTOR some more in my Powerboat.
And, when not boating, RIDE, RIDE, and RIDE some more on my Motorcycle.
Boat projects will just have to wait 'til SUMMERTIME I guess.
capt_nemo
Nemo:
I can't with a clear conscience let you have all that fun alone. I'll be right down. I think I can still find your house!
Winter projects...Hmmm...
new GPS.
remove all thru hulls below the waterline.
Ongoing teak maintenance
rebed bow and stern rails
Install a cooler in the starboard storage area forward of the bulkhead.
Change all lights to LED which is a long overdue project.
I'd love to find indoor storage for the boat for about 2 months this winter so I can really concentrate on getting some things done instead of pretending!
Bob23
Bob23,
Come on down!
Indoor protected (and climate controlled) storage, even temporary is the way to go.
Borrowed my friends huge "Man Cave" again recently for boat polish/waxing and installation of my home made wheel steering system on my Sun Cat.
Told my wife after returning home from a full day of "work" on the boat that every moment spent was a distinct pleasure and that I caught myself several times thinking that I had done died and gone to heaven!
If I were UP THERE where it is cold and snowing, and had a long list of WINTER Projects to tackle, I'd search high and low for a nice WARM protected space with electricity to spend QUALITY TIME with my boat. At, hopefully, a reasonable fee.
Thanks for the invite, Capt! Our daugher has relocated to New Smyrna Beach so we probably won't be visiting Port Charlotte any time too soon.
I've been searching for such a storage area but in addition to the requirements you note, it has to be local and secure. A bit hard to find around here...been thinking of sneaking a Stimson shed in the back yard while the Admiral isn't looking!
Bob23
Hey Bob,
My daughter & her husband live in St Aug. Just an hour north of New Smyrna beach. We just got back from a visit last week. I have finished up My Grandson's Classic Finn. Thinking about trailering it down to him over Christmas.
TG
Not too many things planned this winter. After working 11 months on our house fixing it up, I'm about done with projects for awhile.
Aside from the usual fall maintenance, which is in full swing now, I'll make a forward hatch screen/shade combo and some new lifeline foam/covers (smaller foam like pipe insulation, the noodles are kinda thick).
In the spring, bottom paint is due and I'll put a cleat/block combo on the mast designed for holding a halyard, in this case the drifter. This is a leftover project from last year that didn't get done. Also going to nuke the interior with...something..perhaps Tim's magic shock treatment concoction...it has a certain "bite" smell that needs to be gone. I had it sealed up last winter, and that was a mistake.
Might make a cockpit filler cushion, we'll see.
Oh and how could I forget...I'm conjuring up a design for an extendable tiller. No, not a tiller extension, a tiller that can be moved horizontally, shorter or longer securely and easily.
I use a short tiller (light helm with an IDA rudder) to free up swing space needed, but sometimes I want it longer, much longer while in or around the companionway.
I'm right in the middle of the planning and procrastination stages of the project. A critical phase and one that cannot be rushed. Just ask Bob23 how important this phase is, he'll back me up :)
Hmmm...the extending tiller sounds interesting. Keep us posted, eh?
One cannot underestimate the importance of planning and procrastination. It's critical to every projects success. But sometimes I never seem to get around to it!
Bob23
Oh...and maybe new cushions.
New life lines:
http://www.colligomarine.com/products/colligo-value/life-lines
V.
All the projects and improvements I didn't complete during the warmer months!
the list will most likely be the same next winter :P
carl
im gonna teach myself how to play the guitar and give up smoking
Here's to Kick kick'n the habit at getting kick'n on the guitar!
Bob23
Ok, so I started a few modifications over the summer, but never completed them.
Here's the plan for this winter...
1. finish the install of the sink and water tank.
2. remove the stanchions and rebed them. (bow rail, mast tabernacle, teak handrails, sliding hatch rails, drop board rails are done)
3. "clean up" the wiring behind the porti-potti.
4. pay our daughter to sew new interior cushions. (this one is easy)
5. install headliner material in cabin.
Well, that's the list. We'll see how much gets completed.
Today I started building a hard "tent" over the boat for working on her over the winter.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/aubelecarl/boat%20improvements/winterboatproject007_zps118b91c7.jpg)
I know this will sound like an excuse but the problem with living in Fl is that it is too miserable in the summer to do anything more than emergency repairs and its so nice right now, as we go into winter, that only a fool would not be sailing javascript:void(0); Cast off all lines and pass the duct tape!! M
Man speaks for several of us - from another a sailor in SW Florida.
capt_nemo
Quote from: crazycarl on November 14, 2013, 05:42:54 PM
Today I started building a hard "tent" over the boat for working on her over the winter.
Carl can you post some more pictures of the hard cover you are building? I like the Idea.
I was going to leave mine uncovered for the winter but yur frame looks pretty interesting and I might give something like that a try.
Whew........winter projects galore!! One of my favorite things about getting a new used boat (1990 CP23), other than sailing it's pants off, is tailoring it to work well with the way we intend to use her. Our plan is to do short cruises around our southern end of the Chesapeake, exploring the multitude of creeks and anchorages within a day or two of sailing distance. We spend all of our time on the hook. Many of the creek entrances are pretty small and obscure, so installation of a chartplotter will be high on the list. In many years of sailing, the most we ever had was an old Garmin 48 handheld GPS, so it is time for an upgrade, and we'll probably stick with Garmin. The wood on the exterior of the boat is in pristine condition, and in the past I've sewn up Sunbrella covers to protect all wood when docked or moored. On Beagle 3, I'll sew up a one piece forest green cover for the entire cabin top and sides, including an attached flap for the fancy drop boards. A CQR anchor from the old CP27 will hang from the roller and will be getting an additional long length of chain. The boat was not much modified by the previous (original) owner and did not have a bilge pump, other than the manual gusher. I added a new automatic 800 gph pump with manual over-ride this weekend. Also installed a bronze thru hull and valve for the sink drain....yes, a bit above the water line! I installed a new factory rudder blade, as the original one snapped cleanly off on the maiden voyage while sailing home. The boat came with a real nice heavy duty gel battery, but with no way to charge it. Installed a xantrex smart charger, and at the same time installed a 110V 30A shore power connection with a Blueseas main and 2 circuit panel for the charger and 110 outlets. A small solar panel will eventually find a home on the boat.Being somewhat averse to running aground, the Beagle 3 now sports an Standard Horizon digital depth/speed/temp instrument mounted above the manual bilge pump in the cockpit. The next big project is installing lazy jacks and building a lazy bag for the sail to drop into. We swapped out the plastic interior lights for teak and brass pieces, and added a nice Weems & Plath kerosene lamp. Before spring launch, we hope to have pressure water and cockpit shower, and we might put in a real head and holding tank. It's been many years since we cruised with a porta-potty. This is an ambitious, albeit, incomplete list, but the beauty of retirement is getting up in the morning and deciding just what I feel like doing, or perhaps, deciding to just sit back and admire a fine lookin' boat!!
Quote from: Mattlikesbikes on November 14, 2013, 10:10:50 PM
Carl can you post some more pictures of the hard cover you are building? I like the Idea.
I was going to leave mine uncovered for the winter but yur frame looks pretty interesting and I might give something like that a try.
Will do Matt.
Big storms (60mph+ winds and hail) or I'd been out working on it today.
Carl
Guys,
Make sure slope of your cover "roof" is steep enough to shed snow if you get a lot where you are.
Consider using plastic jugs filled with sand, small rocks, or water tied to grommets to hold down the tarp all round. Allows the tarp to "give" a little when stressed.
Had a similar screwed together wood-framed cover in Maryland that I used repeatedly for many winters.
Also, make sure to use Cloth/Duck Tape at critical points to protect against CHAFE.
Just the voice of experience talking.
capt_nemo
Well Pedro:
I was wondering what you were up to and now I know. Sounds like the Beagle 3 is keeping you busy. I've also been looking to replace my old and now non functioning old Garmin black and white with a 521s...I think that's the one. I like the idea of the transducer mounted inside the hull...I will eliminate all below the waterline thru hull fittings this winter.
Pressurized water? Shower? How 'about a nice 6 burner Wolf range and 48" Sub Zero? Last summer I used the solar pump shower thing available from Duckworks. I really worked great but is a little awkward to store. It's nothing more than a black pump sprayer with a makeshift shower head at the end. That's as close to pressurized water as I'll ever get.
On the cooler end of things, I think I've devised a way to have a true 5 day cooler on board. It's still in the experimentation stage right now and is classified information. Stay tuned for more!
Bob23
Carl, i love the framework for your cover.. anxious to see more pics! I should be thinking about winter boat projects but it is my first day off in a couple of months and it is sunny and unseasonably warm.. and i just found out that my motorcycle battery is not dead... so here we go! just made arrangements to meat a friend for a lunch ride.. Adagio will survive another day uncovered :) jt
carl, that isnt a cover is it. joanie finally threw you out and your new residence will be a "house boat:
17* wind chill with the 20mph+ winds today, but i finished the hard tent on the boat.
foam around the edges and under the frame
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tarp isn't large enough so i'll be doing some shopping this evening
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easy enough to get in and out using the stern ladder.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/aubelecarl/boat%20improvements/winterboatproject005_zps34d608ec.jpg)
not easy put the tarp on in 20mph+ winds! i used ties and rope to secure it, but i'll replace them with bungees when i install the larger tarp.
will it stand up to the weight of the snow? i'll keep a close watch, if the snow gets too high, i can use a broom and remove it.
cc
yep carls new man cave
Carl:
That is the strangest wooden bimini I've even seen! You, my friend, are truly an innovator. I raise my glass of Goslings or Newfys or Pussers or Kraken to ya! why, I'll raise all 4!!!
Bob23
Carl,
If you have a problem with the snow building up and not sliding off, recommend you swap the long longitudinal stringers on the roof for shorter cover supports running perpendicular from the center ridge pole down to the lower horizontal side supports.
Years ago my Maryland winter cover on an Island Packet 35, also made of 2 X 4's and 2 X2's, had such supports (2 X2's) spaced 24" apart and withstood some very heavy snows. I'd probably go to 16" spacing if I were doing it again. Constructed this way it was also easy to "help" the snow slide off (down the trough) by pushing the cover up from underneath.
Just the voice of experience talking.
capt_nemo
Mother nature dropped 4" of snow on us last night. This would be the 1st real snow to challenge the framework on the boat. Most of the snow slid off as I hoped it would. The cockpit is still dry. So far, it's holding.
i bought another cheap tarp to cover the boat, then put the heavier tarp on top of it.
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/aubelecarl/boat%20improvements/winterboatproject001_zps9c5742b8.jpg)
still dry inside!
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Nice!!!. That cover looks like it is doing a great job. My uncovered CP 19 has about 7 inches of fresh powder on it and as of about 1/2 hour ago a nice layer of ice.
Maybe next year I will build a cover for it.
I am pretty lucky to have a buddy with a big shed. Our 19 is packed away between a big camper and a enclosed dual axle trailer. The process is pretty neat in order to get it in there, It first gets backed into the Campers bay, then we take the boat and jack it up one wheel at a time setting these dollies under it. Each dolly has 4 casters. 2 dollies later and the whole thing gets slid sideways into place.
This boat also fits in my garage so if there is anything I have to do to it, my truck comes out and the boat goes in.
This winter I finished "Together Time" by adding the eyebrows back on, and making sure it was all cleaned up from being used. I also coated the bow sprit in Spar Varnish and my wife oiled the interior wood which is done 2 times a year.
The forward hatch screen hadnt been installed either so I was sure to finish that.
I had some Butyl tape squeeze out around the fittings yet, so I cleaned that up as well which was a easy job.
I think the biggest problem I had was getting the time to get it all done. As soon as I started a bunch of things came up and I got busy every day, from charity obligations to house work.
Now that the boat is at its winter home, I am hoping to begin work in the shop making Bullet pens again, and getting back to wood turning. I am self taught at wood turning and although I bought some books a while ago, I think I just put em in the shelf to look at them.......
I started making these bullet pens about 6 years ago. I constructed all these tools and dies out of plastic to make pens from .30-06 and .308 shells. These are then drilled and have inserts put in, using all high quality processes I designed myself. As cool as that is, I went so far as to contract with local funeral homes for the military funerals. I also purchased and made a few .50 caliber pens that come in a kit form.
I can take shells shot from 21 gun salutes and cut them down slightly (the pinched end comes off) then transform them into pens that have copper hardware, 24 kt gold or even silver.
The shells "fired finish" was able to even be left in tact if the people wanted them that way.
Those were sold at cost and took a lot of time to make because I used a special set of holders and such as to not destroy them or alter them during the process.
I had one funeral home tell me he could get the shells from every funeral and give em too me so I could have them made up ahead of time to fill orders....... But I didn't do that. It just didn't feel right to be done like that........ and I can tell you that everyone who got them would hug me after receiving them and freely hugged me afterward and told me how the pen was in perfect shape, etc, they were thrilled with them. Makes a guy feel good.
When the lightning got me, the orders were still pouring in as possibilities. My grandma had made the rounds telling the funeral homes I was down for a while, to just keep the possibility open as far as making them went. I closed my shop up when My left arm involuntarily let go of a circular saw I was using and it took off. something I have never had happen before.
My shop sat in the middle of a rework for several years until we started a organization project to lift my spirits. Then we bought the boat.
I also saw this year on FaceBook that a company online makes the very pens that I made years ago. They look to have started this year. Kind of makes me feel like the grandfather of the original ones. Even if I am not, I dont care. I was unable to turn it into something bigger due to big changes in my life. That is just how it goes.
Anyway, that is my plans for the winter. Try to get back into making all the things I used to make years ago, in a newly revamped shop, and who knows, maybe I will turn out some other new trinkets and I meddle with different things.
Thanks for reading, this originally was going to be a short post....... I kinda ran with it. :)
Mac
Still new to my boat, and have to move her to New Bern once the engine is fixed.
I have a short list of things, including some backing plates for deck hardware, a plastic through hull that I think is below waterline and thus needs to be replaced or sealed up, and then, I'll just try to get to know the boat, and put things where they go, figure out the following:
a. solar panel I can leave on the boat between visits to the marina
b. figure out if the radio would work if I had an antenna, etc
The winter project is to complete my 8 foot 7 inch dinghy before Christmas. [Yea right] Almond color inside. Red urethane outside. White oars, new cedar on bow-stern-gunnels. Luv's that wine glass stern. Looks like it's going to be a tender-tippy boat.
skip.
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Nice little dink, Skip. Do you know what it is? Looks like a nice rower/sailer.
Bob23
No, sorry Bob.
Neither I nor Dr. Wentworth who gave me this boat have any idea. Many goggle image searches have never come close to this shape.
Doc said it has been upside down behind his Sturgeon Bay 'shack' since 1996 or 1997.
He and two other sailors each bought one of these during their sailing days.
The hull number -WS 5160 AM- shown was sent off to the Wisconsin DNR. Nothing yet. The Coast Guard won't run the number for me either.
There is NO manufacture name tag or any I.D. molded into the fiberglass.
Doc now has this East Bay 38 stink potter and he let my tie along side. Wild Turkey and 7-up at 5 and standing rib roast, on deck at 6. Yummo!
skip.
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Skip - here's a link to USCG's hull number decoder. You can search for all manufacturer IDs ending in WS and see if any of them look likely. I see there is a code in there for homemade boats from the state of Wisconsin.
http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic1.aspx
Wes
The information about this dinghy arrived yesterday.
Designed by F. Patrick Ahern
1 West Third Street
South Boston, MA. 02127
Titled 'Classic Yacht Tender'
The copy write plans 1973, 50 years ago.
skip.
Ahern...interesting. That's a long time local name around here in the fishing and seafood wholesale and retail business. I wonder if any relation.
Bob23
Bought my first boat from a little shop in South Boston when I was 15. It was an 8 ft sailing pram new, unpainted for $75, before mast, sail etc.. I don't know who designed the hull but someone really knew what they were doing. It was the most able little boat that took me to places (and back) no boat that size should have gone.
Skip, love the lines of your little tender. Over thirty years ago I bought a used hard dinghy for my trips to the Bahama's. Never found out the manufacture of it but looks like a knock off of a Dyer dinghy. With the exception of the crossing of the Gulf Stream, I towed that sucker everywhere. When I sold the big boat I kept the dinghy and have had it ever since. It's been storied under the deck for all these years. One of my plans since I have retired is to restore it someday. Would love to see your progress on her.
My winter project doesn't involve my CP16. In fact, I picked up the CP16 two months ago in order to be able to get away from my winter project and get out on the water on occasion.