After some thought and consideration, I decided to make some changes to the CP19 trailer.
Some may recall I blew both tires and suspected my hubs of disintegrating (which I'm still not 100% sure what happened) and I was considering double axles to provide better load capacity.
Originally it came with little 10" tires that would provide a harsh ride and would heat up after long miles in the summer. I swapped out to 12" radials, load E. Only slightly better ride and marginally better load capacity. Blew them both on the way out to Il from OH this summer after only 3 years of service!
After pricing a new trailer with double axles-the trailer guy thought the one we have was too small to put doubles on it-I went with MUCH better tires instead.
Goodyear ST 205/75R14s load C's are almost 200lbs more weight bearing per tire than the smaller load E's, more sidewall for a better ride and should run cooler.
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The fenders had to be replaced and the brackets cut off and rewelded to fit the wider wheels
Added Kodiak SS disc brakes. They are surge brakes with reverse lockout solenoid. Axle is a 4,000lb round version.
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The trailer tongue is short and I've been backing the Mazda CX-9 WAY DOWN into the water to launch and retrieve.
Had the same problem with a 4runner. So I went big with a 10' slideout extension to keep the wheels high and dry.
That's just blue tape on the aft end of the extension.
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Sorry about the fingers in the pic.
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Haven't towed the boat yet, but anticipate a better experience--brakes, extension and more weight capacity.
My, what fine wheels you have, Salty! 8) 8)
TG
I saw this featured on a show called "Pimp my Compac 19s trailer"
High class........I'm jealous.
I bet that was cheaper than a new trailer.....actually maybe you could post some more pics of the stuff......might be something to do this winter on my own. Only issue is mine isn't a performance trailer...
Mac
Nice! I really like the slide out extension. What did all that set you back if you don't mind telling.
It has always amazed me that boat manufacturers work to produce the best boat possible, including Hutchins, and spend about 5 minutes about what trailer to put it on.......................................all the boats I have purchased over the years always had a trailer one size to small for the boat, the highway has always been the most dangerous place for a boat rather than the water..........................nies
Cool. I like it. All it takes is money.
skip.
great wheels------wait until carl sees this
i can just hear the conversation at next years rendezvous. no talk of boats, but plenty of "trailer talkin"
Matt--All in, about $2,100 for the mods. Less than half of a new double axle trailer with all the goodies.
Includes wheels/tires (2 + spare), lugnuts, hubs, axle, galvanization, axle brackets, brakes, fenders/bolts, tongue extension and brackets, surge controller/reverse lockout solenoid, hydraulics/electric harness, vehicle 7 plug outlet, winch strap, and labor/welding. The shop also repaired a stripped bolt on a bunk stanchion.
What I forgot about and still want to do is lower the V block a bit and raise the winch to make it easier to get back the trailer. Might not need it now with the extension.
Now I have no excuse for not attending the Florida gathering next year! Wherever and whenever that is!
Man, dem wheels makes me put on my Foster Grants! Really nice...nicer than the wheels on my truck, car and bicycle combined. Not easy to keep up with the Salty's!
Very nice improvement, Mike but your'e gonna get some ribbin' about those wheels! Anyone notice the chrome valve step cap? Oh yeah...dressed to the nines!
Bob23
very nice indeed mike.
can i get the # of the shop that did your mods?
carl
And I thought you guys would be giving me grief over the cherry stump sitting in the background. I guess the glare of milled aluminum (aluminium for our friends down under!) caused some temporary blindness or amnesia? Yes, honey, I will be getting rid of the stump soon.
Appreciate the compliments. What can I say, the rims were on sale (not bad at all) and they aren't going to rust. They do look way better than I thought they would, but let's face it, this is a boat trailer..doesn't matter much what it looks like as long as it functions well. We shall see how it tows come late October.
Carl, here's the place that did the work: http://www.ohiotrailer.com/contact.html Tires/wheels are from eastern marine and the extension is from extend-a-hitch, the shop supplied everything else (I asked for EZ lube hubs and Kodiak brand brakes). I think they made the axle onsite.
I have to think just about any decent trailer shop can do this type of work.
I exercised self restraint and didn't mention the cherry stump. Really nice job on the trailer.
Bob23
Wow Mike! A little bit of neon underbody lighting on her and you'll be all set.
That is not a junky ol' stump. That is a decorative trailer backing guidepost.
Nice job Mike. She looks great.
Mike
Darn it, I forgot about the neon lights! And the subwoofers-how did I miss that???
Back to the shop! ;D
Hey, nice job Mike. Cherry huh, I'm thinking you could resaw that into boards. But maybe not. Is that a flower growing out of it. 8)
Going to do a little trailer work myself this winter. Ordered bunk carpet yesterday. What isn't rotting off, the squirrels are tearing up. Got to find a repellant for that. Going to buy four new tires. Breaks my heart to throw away tires with almost full tread, but after 8 years, getting a lot of side wall cracking and not trusting them anymore. May buy a set of disk brakes and replace the drums which are relatively high maintenance.
Neon lights.....hmmm! :D
All this talk about trailer mods has got my wheels a-turning. And we all know that that means trouble. My tires are also about 8 years old with about 200 miles on 'em...guess I should check them out.
Wonder if I could lower the suspension on my trailer...fender skirts...dingle balls hanging from the rear side windows...dice from the rear view mirror...crop the windshield...Look what you've started, Salty!!!!!!!
Bob23...with trailer envy!
Mike, thanks for defending the decorative cherry boat alignment device adorning our side yard, and to you Bob for showing an unusual amount of self-restraint! It does look a little like a navigational beacon now that you mention it being helpful for that function, Mike. I had planned on cutting it up, but low and behold, she still sits there 10 months later. But the rest of the HUGE tree has been..ahem...put to rest.
Brackish--Hehe, yes I think there is a flower in there somewhere! If I call it a garden, that takes all the pressure off to remove it!
Bob, those mods are brilliant! Don't forget the neon man, you'll regret it!
as a lawn ornament it sure beats a bunch of knomes. hey i bought my "rims" on sale too-----eight bucks a piece -----well you guys know me----now to find the tires i can afford-----maybe white letters or redlines.
Kick- I found prices to a be a lot less online than at local tire shops for tires. Huge difference.
As a sidenote, it cost me almost $180 for the roadside replacement to ONE tire (included $30 to expedite rather than waiting 2 hours). I could of bought three tires for that cost, but when your stuck on the side of the road, you pay what it costs.
Moral of the story...do not go cheap here, it may just cost you more in the long run if they are poor quality.
Salty,
Do you have to do anything special so your trailer will back up when utilizing the trailer extension with the brakes? I think mine would lock up and prevent me from backing up as the actuator would not be engaged. That is one fantastic looking trailer you have, great work!
Dale
Cruzin, no I don't think I have to do anything special..could be wrong?? ???
Since the "main" trailer coupler will be unhooked during use with the "dummy" extension, no force should act upon it that would engage the hydraulic piston inside the coupler. It will simply be hanging there until I hook it back up.
Err...I think.
Pulled the boat today, always a sad day of the year. :'(
Glad to report the trailer extension worked well. Just need to clean up a few burrs to make it slide easier, and maybe some dry lube.
Thankfully I thought ahead and had a wood block to give extra height to the trailer winch (the one to raise and lower the tongue) so the hitch extension was easy to re-hitch on the ball. It sits a bit lower and the winch isn't too tall.
Tires got wet, but only because I pulled in a bit too far. When I pulled out to an adequate depth, which was deeper than I normally can do due to concerns about the SUV literally being sunk (not a steep ramp), there was 5" of distance between tire and water! No more SUV dunks!
The new wheels and tires (ST205/75-14, 50psi Goodyear Marathon) DEFINITELY rolled easier down the road empty and loaded with boat. I also didn't notice any bouncing on the road like before with the 12" 90psi tires. While it's only a 5 mile drive home, the difference was immediately noticeable. The highway should be a smoother ride as well. And in a first time, rookie-like move, forgot all about the tie down straps. Only the bow eye was connected, and it still was stable. Could be a connection here..when I store it for the winter I'll strap and see if the straps contribute to boat movement.
The brakes..only really tested them once, and it was not a super hard stop, but generally speaking I can tell they are working! Feels like I'm only towing half the load when slowing and coming to stop. I realize they need to bed themselves in like any brakes do, so expect them to improve a bit more.
I must of got all the new 7 pin hitch wiring right, the reverse solenoid works, and all lights are operational :)
So I consider all the trailer mods a success, it feels much safer and overall less nerve racking.
More important than chrome valve caps are solid metal valve stems. Sooner or later the old style rubber valve stems are going to leak at the rim.
Finally a pic of the trailer extension in action. Keeps the car out of the water...
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