Just finishing restoring my CP 16/II, she come out really beautiful and its already giving us some very nice time on the water. Yesterday we went out in a stiff breeze and because of the chop there where quite lots os sprays, so I thought that in those conditions, or for any small cruising around, a having a custom dodger would be perfect. Does anyone made their own, and could eventually share some pictures? I appreciate your time and help.
Happy Weekend!! G
Not on a 16, but two of the CP-19's in Wama-Lama lagoon are fitted with dodgers.
I suppose it's the same thing but rather scaled down.
I can't make my self put holes in my boat to anchor the dodger down, so I'm very sure I'll never have a dodger.
skip.
I know there was at least 1 guy over on the Trailer Sailor forum (http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/tsbbcomp/trailersailor/index.cgi) that has a dodger on a SunCat (I think, might be Horizon Cat). You could try posting there and asking.
When I have looked into, I just couldn't justify the cost. Just the materials are going to run you $550+ (check out the sailrite.com kits). That assumes you have a good sewing machine and are willing to try and tackle the thing. Having someone do the whole thing for you is probably going to run $1,000-$1,500.
I've considered a dodger many times for both my 16 and now my 23, but have decided that the tradeoffs aren't worth it. First it really restricts your ability to go forward on a small boat. On bigger boats the side decks are wide enough that you can get around the dodger, but on the 16 you basically have to step on the coach roof (if I remember right). Second, you'll either have to fabricate a seahood for your hatch, or you won't be able to get a good seal (and lots of wear/chafe) between the forward middle edge of the dodger and the sliding hatch. Third, and this kind of goes back to point 1, if you need to do anything at the mast the dodger is going to get in the way. I used to stand in the cabin on my 16 and adjust the topping lift or the spinnaker halyard (the jib and main halyards were led back to the cockpit).
While every once-in-awhile I wish I had a dodger while sailing due to spray or rain, but mostly I think they would be nice at anchor to leave the hatch open in the rain. However, with the bimini on my 23 I can scoot it forward on an adjustable track so that it covers most of the hatch, or if the wind is also blowing rain in, I can unhook the rear straps from the bimini and tip it forward so that it creates kind of a solid wall just forward of the hatch; kind of like a dodger without windows. The other option at anchor is an umbrella over the hatch, much cheaper than a dodger or bimini and it won't get in the way when sailing.
southoyster.....can you PM me your email and I'll send pictures of how to make patterns. Nate...I respectfully dissagree. I love my dodger for many reasons from sun to spray to rain days. Wouldn't cruise without one!!
Frank,
I would like to get pictures of how to construct dodger as well if you don't mind. Please copy me when you have time. Does anyone have pictures of their dodger?
Dale
My 23 came with a very mini dodger...looks cool but not very effective. Sorta looks like a cropped windshield version of a dodger. I can see the value of one when the spray hits me in the face plus it could extend my sailing season into the later fall days when the water is colder.
I can't see how a dodger would really hinder my access forward to a serious extent. But that's just me...
Bob23
Couldn't find where you can send personal messages?? Email me and I'll send you several dodger pics as well as pattern pics, I'll be camping till next week.....leaving in the a.m. f durant "at" web hart "dot" net
Thank you so much for your good reply and sorry for the late reply, initially the topic was not getting enough traction and since I went of out of town I forgot to check on it as I would. The idea of a dodger for my 16 came out of seeing one on a Suncat (small craft advisory magazine) and really fall in love with it.
Frank,
Would really love to see what you did and trying to make one myself, I use heavy duty sewing machines, and I could readily get some of the necessary tubing for the structure. I am aware that having a dodger may make going forward a bit more difficult, but when cruising a bit of farmer away destinations, you surely want to protect yourself from the spray and the weather, so it would be surely be a nice thing to have one.
As for personal messages, I am not sure how, but I will try to, and see if I can send you a personal message with my own email address where you can kindly send your patter and any pictures if you have. I thank you in advance for the time, and also kudos to everyone else that somehow revived the topics. I hope you're having a blast this season, and I am wishing you all a special labor day weekend.
G
Frank, just email you my address, thank you very much!!
G
Frank, if you can post the pictures here, or email to me and I'll
post them, others can enjoy/benefit from them as well.
Salty 19....email me and I will forward you what I sent the others. Unfortunately I'm missing a few pictures...but I think/hope what I sent helps.
PS...posting pictures here is too complicated for this ole guy ???
Frank,
Great idea to get them posted on the site for all to see. Your dodger looks great! Thanks for the pictures and the detailed description. Now if just knew how to sew. Maybe I could find a nice little mermaid somewhere that wants to sail and likes to sew!
Dale
South or Frank can you guys post the photos for all to see.
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I e-mailed a wordie note and pics to 4-5 here. There were 2 good pics I could not find....but I think the ones I did find sufficed. I find it frustrating (impossible) to post pics here (technophobe)...can one of the fellows I sent the info to post the note and pics??
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Very nice cat, got these from Dale. thanks much great help.
Thanks go to Frank as he sent me the photos. Can we post the other photos that show the construction of the dodger and directions?
Thank you Frank for your information!
Dale
Dale I saw the construction photos but my fire wall virus protection prevented me from saving them, if you can send them to my as a mail attachment
and I can save them, and I will post them.
Thank you, and Frank.
Gil
I put my email address (in code) back a few posts. Email me and I will forward you what I have. WAY too complicated for this ole guy to post pics here!!
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I'll try and explain this step by step
1-determine location and size of frame. A dodger typically goes from the
front of the sliding hatch in the closed position to just aft of the
companionway.
You can go further aft but this allows for easier in/out and will still
keep rain out. Make sure the frame is lower than the boom with the main
hoisted.
The frame spread and shape will determine much of the final "look"
2-with the final frame design in place...tape it into shape (picture#041)
Use a magic marker to mark center of both for and aft frames. Mark center of
the
sliding hatch in closed position as well.
3- take a "pattern paper" and align at the marked center on top of the
frames. Tape it to keep "centered". Run it down the side and cut the bottom
to the desired shape onto the combings. Mark where you want fasteners etc.
Use
the magic marker to trace the top center of the frames. This will give you a
"half" pattern
4- Take another "pattern paper" and tape on the front beginning at center of
forward top frame and down to center forward of the closed sliding hatch.
Now...wrap this sideways cutting out the desired shape...allowing for
any lines led aft or hand rails etc. Again....trace the top center of the
frames.
5-..you now have 2 "half patterns" each is simply folded over to complete
the opposite side. The top is typically sunbrella and is one solid peace
that
goes from combings on one sied, up and over the top frames and down to
the combings on the other. The forward patter has the windows in it.
Both have "zippered flaps" that go over both fore and at frames.
6-zippers can be attached on top-aft so as to support a sunshade later
(works great!!)
7-Final (1st) install once complete...attach the points forward on either
side of the companionway. Do NOT go down sides. Use cord at aft end (see
pictures)
to tighten the sunbrella...making sure things are centered. Once both
sides are secure aft...attach remaining points down the sides pulling to
"snug" the fit.
Confused???? :o ;D