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Title: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: MacGyver on June 14, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
I am trying to solve a issue. I know little about line splicing this am steel except what has been posted in a post somewhere here.
My issue is I want to be able to take them off for the winter. Maybe I shouldn't be worrying about that.......but I plan to use a pelican hook on the stern end of the 19. The bow is the issue........ I bought adjusters for the bow, but the Johnson adjusters will end up being permanent attached to the am steel and won't come through the stanchion holes for removal.......

Any ideas? Pictures would be a big help or a link as this is all literally beyond me currently.......and I am burning up time trying to figure this out.
I am guessing one option would be shackle......but will the end pass through the stanchions?

Mac
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: Shawn on June 14, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
Mac,

After you splice an eye in the am steel life lines can you use a shackle to attach the lines to your adjusters? Just remove the shackle to feed the line back through. That is assuming an eye spliced line will fit through the stanchions.

Shawn
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: Harrier on June 15, 2013, 06:34:09 AM
What type of pelican hook are you using? 
On my arrangement I have a stud swaged to either end of the cable.  The stud is about the same diameter as the cable.  It is used to thread into the body of the pelican hook once threaded through the stanchions. 
I've never used them, but perhaps these mechanical swage fittings can help you?
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=52132&familyName=Suncor+316+SS+Quick+Attach+Stud+Swage+Fitting (http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=52132&familyName=Suncor+316+SS+Quick+Attach+Stud+Swage+Fitting)
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: Salty19 on June 15, 2013, 09:36:53 AM
Quote from: Shawn on June 14, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
Mac,

After you splice an eye in the am steel life lines can you use a shackle to attach the lines to your adjusters? Just remove the shackle to feed the line back through. That is assuming an eye spliced line will fit through the stanchions.

Shawn

Exactly.
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: MacGyver on June 15, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
So basically I should do the same termination to the pelican hook end as I do the shackle end. This would indeed make it work with the adjusters on that bow end.
Just didn't want to add more hardware.......but hey, gotta do what you gotta do! This will make it so I can remove the lifeline cushions if I need too, etc. So worth it since they say this stuff lasts a while.

Thanks guys

Harrier,
Am steel is a synthetic rope style. But I appreciate your time with that link ;)

Mac
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: Salty19 on June 16, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
Mac--Just a thought.  Make sure the bow spliced end can run through the stanchion fairleads. Depending on how thick of a line and the taper, it may or may not fit. Also you'll want a way to adjust it, get the pelican hooks that allow for it (Amsteel will permanently elongate after a few heavy loads, it will need adjusted later).
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: skip1930 on June 16, 2013, 10:23:11 PM
Go the other way. Unscrew the Pelican hook from it's threaded end and pull that threaded end through to the bow for the winter.

skip.
Title: Re: Amsteel lifeline terminations
Post by: MacGyver on June 16, 2013, 11:12:44 PM
Cant pull the threaded end thru, it is a welded bail to a threaded portion, so I have to have a soft end to pull through.
But that is what we did with the cable type.

I hope this looks as good as I think it will......... with all this work done as well it should really set the boat off.

Mac