Our boat is a ComPac 19/3
Hull number 513, built in 1989
We bought this boat after a pretty good search for a 16 (wanting to start small), netting it for just the right price. Turns out the original owner had a CP16, and after a trip sailing on it they went by the local ComPac dealer, who offered to buy the 16 (due to extreme demand for the 16) from them at a great price and sell them this 19 that wasnt selling, just sitting on the lot.
Little did the salesman know that the 16 had interior issues (stuff the PO said was issues from the factory).
They didnt even look inside the 16!! So they swapped boats, purchasing the 19, and down the road they went, Father and son laughing at the good fortune!
It was the widow that owned the boat now, and the son didnt have time to deal with it, so it was time to sell it. It had been sitting for 8 to 10 years with no cover, etc.
Knowing the structure of ComPacs somewhat, I knew I wanted the boat, it would be perfect for us. Our decision to buy was based on a series of events that had my wife and I wondering if I was going to live or die. I had been shocked by lightning and was in rough shape, unable to get any help from doctors who just simply thought since I was upright, that I was okay.
I was in a deep depression from the loss of my business due to the injuries, and we had just found out that it was common for survivors to suffer heart attacks, etc. With the chest pains, and no medical help, we decided that it was time to have fun, before I was incapacitated, or what not.
Before all of this I never went on vacations, I just worked, helped others, and helped my church. Even when I got married I did the same.
When I got shocked by lightning around a year later we went on our first vacation, which was a family vacation with her side of the family. It was a disaster.
This boat was to be for us, hence the name "Together Time"
The boat when we bought it was in horrible shape on the exterior, but the interior was really nice. She came with a main and 110 Jib.
Not much else... Getting her home was a whole other adventure. Probably one of the hardest adventures I have had.
We scrubbed and cleaned and waxed as the neighbors watched (none helping!! LOL) and after about 2 weeks of solid work, we had a full day set aside to launch her.
We joined in on our first CLR last year, and had several adventures with a roughly steep learning curve. One specific event was at CLR where I literally thought we were not gonna make it back to the harbor. We motored in, being still that we were new, as most every one else had sails up.
When we got to the dock I was glad to hear everyone say they were happy to have seen us drop sails so quick, and that we did good. We thought we had done wrong, especially after watching John J running his 16 full sail while sitting leisurely in the cockpit like nothing was going on! :o
This year begins a new adventure.
We have started a complete repaint of the boat, to fix hull issues, and deck issues. We want to make the boat safer for us on deck, and reseal the boats hardware to ensure a leak free and fun year.
I have picked up sewing and am making our own canvas. We bought a Bimini! My wife is very happy about that.
I can also happily say that we found a doctor who has been working with me to get me well, and with diet change, and supplement plus a lot of muscle work, I might actually just about be in better shape than when I first got shocked. ;D
I am going to use this post/topic to share the running project of the boat, since there is so many projects going on right now, for those that want to follow. For right now to have time to edit video for DIY projects, etc, this is probably the easiest for me to do while I am taking video of the projects, and dloading them to my computer to mess with later.
Thanks for reading!
Jason (MacGyver)
:)
Here is a picture of the deck after so work with 40 grit to take off the knotted rope that was pretty heabily chipped from hail and also a micro issue within the knotted rope that was exposed even more so when sanded down.
(http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg507/JGDVS/Boat%20Work%20CP19/IMG_20130324_104109_403_zps3d6a9ca5.jpg)
The front deck is done as of today, what a bunch of work!! Now it is time to do the rest of the deck.
this is why we dont have a "prettiest boat" award at the clr. seems i have enough enemies already i dont need more. point being when you finish your 19 it would be just too hard to pick the prettiest boat in attendance. given rich's flawless 16, knot fast. island time, wrinkles, and lil darlin. did i forget to mention "audrey J" ----no i didnt. cant wait to see your 19 together time----im already green with envy.
great story , great project, and, above all else.. great name for the boat! something tells me that there is an interesting story associated with that vacation with the family.. but we won't go there :)
nothing like getting your hands dirty ( and having the space to do that over the winter!) i am sure that you will be proud of the finished project.. looking forward to additional pics! jt
I hope she will be in good shape when I get her done Kick, It is a lot of work!
JT, Yesterday, we got all this snow, and it came down very wet, and heavy. I took my wife to work, and went and picked her back up for lunch then back to work with her. I got home and my truck wouldnt go into reverse or park...... man was I mad.... so I had to slide under her, and found that the entire undercarriage, from bottom of frame braces up to the floor boards packed solid with snow and it was SOLID.....
So with the truck in nuetral, running, I blocked and set the parking break and then got my hose out. shot out all the snow crap, took me 25 minutes..... I was soaked, and cold.......
If that boat wouldnt have been in the garage, with its stuff puked out all over the other side, I would have drove it in, turned up the heat and went and took a nap. LMAO ;D ;D
So much for the boat being in the garage.... LOL
Anyway, here is a picture of the nonskid all gone finally. The seats dont have the issues the deck does, so it will stay, which I hope will be a nice contrast in the end.... a little classy in the cockpit area.
(http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg507/JGDVS/Boat%20Work%20CP19/IMG_20130325_174502_584_zpsbd6e8530.jpg)
This is why I am sanding off all the knotted rope, it has lamination issues that were showing up by becoming pock marks. I am sure the hail they get in missouri helped a bit to bring this to light....
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Close up of some it
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Another close up.
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This is the boat as she sits in the Garage, the sides are almost completely ready to go.
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This picture shows what I do to paint the topsides, First I tape the water line, then I tape below the waterline but up against the last taping. This leaves a flow over of where I will paint with topside paint. Then When it is cured I will tape off going against this tape, 2 times, so I am above the water line, then sand up to the tape, and paint with bottom paint.
This is also how I will achieve the original striping also.
(http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/gg507/JGDVS/Boat%20Work%20CP19/IMG_20130325_174322_632_zpsaad7a5e7.jpg)
Mac
Mac,
From strictly a logic point of view, I would think those voids occurred when after the Gel coat and first layer of polyester were sprayed into the mold, the fiberglass mat was applied and all of the telegraphed rope shapes were not subsequently filled with resin. You will note the voids were ALL in the sanded off raised sections of the rope shapes. These would have been the low points in the mold.
Your hull was laid up before the widespread use of vacuum bagging, or SCRIMP layup methods and so this could have happened the way I theorize. This rarely happens these days, as resin is too precious to waste with thick layers.
Just my $0.02. I don't think you have a real problem unless the fiberglass is wet.
TG
Tim, I agree, I think :D
I just said laminate because the is a reference to the structure. some of it was pockets in the gelcoat. And (which I should have taken more pics before I started) there was several sections that were repaired by the factory, and not really knotted rope.... more of a globbed pattern so to speak.
The color was a dead on match, and the gelcoat on my boat was in sad shape to say the least. When it sanded I watched it layer out and the color was through and through just like the nice knotted rope. My best guess is when it was popped from the mold, she was in rough shape.
it was also only in the colored sections of knotted rope, it isnt a problem in the cockpit nor a problem on the hatch's colored section which would have been made in another mold. There are some other issues around the rest of the deck where it is not right, but those will be a much easier fix that this is......
As I sanded off the knotted rope, more sections popped up of dry glass, which is insufficient resin during molding. this would also help to cause the knotted rope break down I am dealing with. this is a bit odd cause it looks like epoxy without glass in it that was first sanded......
Over all, not a big deal, as they are still a raised part of the deck, and when I get done with the intergrip, hope to see it as a ideal refinish instead of a regret. It took me around 3 weeks to make the decision......... not to mention the time I spent this winter thinking it over.
Mac
Nice to hear that you are recovering fine, and to see the progress on your boat. On my to do list this year is to get my boat painted.
Glad to hear you are feeling better too! Thanks for the pics and explanation, I learn a lot from this site, an I look forward to seeing and reading more in the future.
Update:
My wife and I have been working on it as we have time, so far we are a few hours away from having the sanding done. I am hoping this weekend to be able to prime the whole boat after a serious washdown to get all the dust off it.
I ground out around each cockpit drain and also the pass through for the fuel line and the bilge exhaust, filling it in with a 404 blend of West System epoxy.
The sanded down areas got a coat of Interlux 2000 primer, then a skim coat of fairing filler from System 3 epoxies. Now that has to be sanded down to get it ready for yet another coat of 2000 and then sanded for the 404 epoxy primeKote.
So far so good, and hopefully post a few pictures soon.
I have not been working on the rudder, or anything else for that matter..... :(
I really cant wait for it to be complete.........
Mac
I notice you are using West System and System 3. Any particular reason for mixing brands? Or is system 3 faring filler than the West System counterpart.
Bob23
I was complaining to the Admiral the other day about "How much work I had to do on the boat this spring".
Shouldn't of been--you my friend are the one with work to do. My buffing, bottom paint and teak recoat (ok a few other smaller things) ain't nuthin.
Cannot wait to see it and meet you and Ginger this July at Carlyle Lake! 8)
Bob23, This system 3 stuff is actually a compound mixture with everything premixed, so the thickness is there already, and it sands easy. It was actually a sample that a rep dropped one time a couple years ago. I took it home (IF ITS FREE<<, ITS FOR ME!) LOL
It isnt compatible with West System just because it is its own stuff. If I didnt have that to use I would use West System with 410 or 407 mixture powder.
Here is the link to there product, it is one of few that I like in the Epoxy field, and I would buy it due to its ease of use.
http://www.systemthree.com/store/pc/SilverTip-QuikFair-c17.htm (http://www.systemthree.com/store/pc/SilverTip-QuikFair-c17.htm)
Salty19, I have said to my wife, if we wouldnt have spent all this money in stuff for the boat this year, I would have paid someone to do the work for me, LOL
We cant wait to meet you guys too, and hopefully, I will have the boat completed by then! LOL
Mac
Hehe..does one's boat ever REALLY get completed? I think not...
Mac, I enjoy your contributions. I think you are a hard worker and are serious about what ever you do. I also know how business and health issues can wear a man down. More than anything your posts put me in a good mood. You seem to be a man that will always bounce back, and with out cursing the world while doing it, which can be the hardest part of all. You are also lucky to have a partner who shares your interests.
Medical Science as practiced is changing, and many things that were poorly misunderstood or quite frankly not believed are being shown to be real. So much of the body is so complex that not even the smartest man could understand a problem or think of every study or test or treatment. EHRs (electronic health records) are now analyzed by massive computing banks that can do more in a minute than a whole room full of researchers in a year. There are medical search engines that will look at research in 8 different languages so that a possible solution is not over looked because it is in a different language. Well so much of that soap box lecture.
Anyway I admire your postings and cannot say that I have ever seen an argumentative or dis agreeable word out of you. You sir are a gentleman and scholar of a different time. Mike
Hi Mac Guyver
I am glad to hear that your recovery continues. I send my you my best wishes and prayers that the path ahead for you is one leading to rapid and complete recovery.
I always enjoy your posts, and will follow your restoration project with interest.
Cheers,
Pete
Mike, thanks for such kind words, it is much appreciated!
And thank you too Pete!
I appreciate the kindness greatly.
I talked with my Interlux rep the other day (days seem to run together, so much going on lately!) and told him my want to maintain the knotted rope in the cockpit. He agreed with my concern that the primer may be like a filler and so he told me to prep the knotted rope the best I could with green or red scotch brites, then clean well with solvents, and paint with the perfection.
That is the new plan. So to list out the total plan as it sits now:
Interlux 2000 on the bare glass areas (2 coats)
Then sand with 120 -220 grit (my choice of grit) and wipe down, then coat with 404 primekote
The PrimeKote can be 2nd coated at green stage of first coat. That is the only coat that can be avoided for sanding between coats.
Sand the PrimeKote with 320, and paint with Perfection. 2 to 3 coats of Perfection.
I wont be painting for a bit, as I still have some prep work to do yet, but I have begun the 2000 priming, and sanded some other repaired spots. The weather is so crazy right now with temp swings of nearly 30 degrees.... so that is causing me issues at work that I wont be having at home. This does put the project off some..... but with this weather I doubt I would be sailing anyway.....
This also will only help to make a better job in the end (I hope!!)
Thanks for reading! Hopefully next time I have pictures of progress to show! ;)
Mac
mike i cant wait for jason to finish my boat----(im sure ginger wants a 23). send me pics when shes done and ill come pick her up.
LOL Steve ;) I will be in touch, ;D
As much as the wife wants a 23, is as much as I want a bigger wallet! hahhahahahahh
Update for today, weather was perfect! So I pulled the boat out and worked on it outside. Then I washed down the sides since I still had some more fairing filler to do on the deck.
I also filled around the drains to help seal the leaks they had. I used West System and 404 filler for those and the System 3 fairing filler I talked about earlier to fill the deck issues.
Here is a picture of the deck under 2000
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Here is a picture of it after all the work today. Tomorrow I will be coating the topsides with primer and starting the paint over the next few days after I sand the primer.
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This painting of the sides will give me some more time with the paint before I start the deck. I am also still planning out the procedure of the deck and my paint rep is coming at the end of the month to look at the progress. I feel comfortable with doing the topsides more so than the deck work before he gets here.
This is going to look really nice in the end, and after today, I can really tell the end is near....... a lot closer than I felt it was a few weeks ago.
Mac
Edit:::: The color will be Perfection Platinum and the brown stripes will be Brightsides Sapphire Blue (Top stripe will look the same and bottom stripe will be the 2 inch stripe, only painted instead of vinyl)
Picture that when looking at the last picture ;)
That is gonna be a beauty. For years I have prided myself with taking any machine already in pieces with a parts manual and service and repair manual and be able to find defective parts, repair and rebuild. For the life of me I cannot paint. On the original sister- ribbed, rotting, and rusting I could drive twisted oakum, use penetrating epoxy, and layup those rib composites but I could not paint. I can even prep and sand, but if it ain't rattle-can I can't do it. I can even do juice boxes (prefer Allison 5 sp or larger) but no paint. So Jason if you ever run across a 1-3 cylinder yanmar or Kubota you want trade a little work on let me know.
I'll do larger but I think I'll need something besides by jeep or boat. Speaking of which did you know Cat know owns Lehman? I just got over Fiat buying Allis Chalmers-- But the good part Cat is still USA.
i think we will have vote to see who has the prettiest boat at the clr-----i sure wouldnt want to choose one------looking great jason and kudos on the name--even though it isnt "ginger" salute
Today I did the primer on the topsides. I used 404 Epoxy PrimeKote, for the first time today. I was a bit overwhelmed at first, it is pretty thick and I wasnt told by the rep to thin it.......
not thinning it is a mistake in my opinion. So after the first coat, I drove to the marina office to get some 2333N thinner.
I guess really, I am lucky that I can just do that....... go out and grab up what I need at a moments notice, LOL
So after thinning it around 20 percent. The 2nd coat was MUCH better. so I also applied a 3rd to the stripe and to the repaired spots.
Someone might read this and think, how the hell did he do all the coats if you are to sand between them?!?!??!?!??
Well, I am using the foam rollers, I will take a picture of them next time in the shop. This provides a smoother coat. Also I found out thru my rep that you can apply the 2nd coat during the green stage of the first without harm. This worked well, but why not list that ability on the can?? Well, most DIY people want a good job and not being commercialized to the experience, they tend to blame the paint manufacturer for a rough job, not the guy doing the work.
I am going to wait a full 2 days and jump back on it. Tomorrow I will try to vent my garage, the stench of that stuff was so thick, you can still smell it in my clothes inside.... I guess I could have left em in the garage, but the neighbors probably wouldnt like to see a naked Jason running to go inside......... kinda raises eyebrows to say the least....
Here is what it looked like before I went out for the night....... OH! And YES I was wearing a respirator, that stuff would kill ya otherwise......
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Mac
;D
What a day! Coated the boat with paint after sanding the primer with 220, and red scotch brite the lip edge so I can paint that as well which will add some protection there from water.
I coated the boat with a unthinned coat of PERFECTION to start, running nearly a full quart around the boat.
I came back and sanded it with 320, fairing out the hulls base coat.
I then ran a thinned coat of PERFECTION (roughly using a half of a quart total) and 2 foam rollers and coated the whole boat again.
This will happen 2 or 3 more times before it is left to cure out.
It literally looks like I sprayed it. It turned out so well in fact, I jumped around like a fool to "Ace Of Spades" by MotorHead while I fist pumped saying "OMG HELL YEAH!!" (in reference to the paint job......)
The thinner is 2333N by Interlux. 10% to how much I mixed. Makes a very very very thin coat, but levels out amazingly well. No sags, etc.
Ill take a pic of those roller covers next time, I forgot.... :(
Here is what it looked like before I went in for the night.
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Mac
Wow Jason!!! Looking gorgeous!! I love following this thread and watching the progress.
Also, a public thanks for the advice and phone call when I first bought my C16. And a toast to wishing you continued progress on your recovery.
Hey that looks great. I'm looking at that job and just about to throw away all my spray guns. ;D
Wow. I want to do this with my CP19! I have everything stripped off and want to start sanding. That is really a slick job. You say the dark stuff is Primekote 404? You have pictures of it in a driveway with a black top stripe. Is that another boat?
What kind of roller do you use again?
Anyway, nice nice work. Please post whatever you can, I am sure there are a bunch that are following this in rapt amazement (as I am) thinking "hey, I can do this..."
Mac:
My 23 is on her way out to your Compac Facial Salon. Great job! I'd love to see the boat in person. I pity the fool powerboater who nudges you the first time!
Bob23
;D Thanks guys! Much appreciated!!
Today, I rolled the last coat, or atleast I am pretty sure the last coat, and made a video of how to paint like that.
I still have to edit it heavily, and will probably in the next week post the videos here (youtube links) for your enjoyment and learning pleasure.
I really hope they turned out well, and dont make you sick with all the moving around...... I have yet to look at em, so not sure what it turned out like.
So I will start with the lochnivar's questions:
The dark primer is Interlux 2000, it is not only sealing the bare fiberglass on the deck, but is also on the bottom of the boat. none was ever applied to the topsides (sides of the hull)
Epoxy PrimeKote 404 is White in color and extremely thick!! WOW THICK!! Thin with 2333N thinner!! HIGHLY RECOMMEND!!
That isnt a black top stripe, it is brown, the original GelKote scheme for the CP19. It is the same boat that is now turning Platinum colored using Interlux PERFECTION paint. :D :D :D
The roller you will find a picture of at the bottom of this post as today I finally finally finally got a picture of it! ;D
Saluki86: Anytime! I am glad that you are finally getting to know the boat, sailing is a lot of fun, and anytime you have a question, or just want to shoot the bull, let me know! :D
Brackish, At work I havent used my spray gun in 2 years, I mainly roll the racing bottoms so I was really wanting to try my hand on this paint, I am glad it turned out as well as it has!
And Bob23, All the more reason to hit up a CLR! HAHAHHA I will have to be more protective of it, especially due to the amount of work involved!
I will post a longer post later with more details when I get out in the shop tomorrow and count up my supplies. That should help others setup a rough list of what is needed to do this job.
I will be working on the videos this next couple of days, as I wont be working around the boat since it is curing. Dont want to chance any issues.
Lastly, Here is the roller I use, must be made to handle polyurethanes and harsh style chemicals. The place I bought them at (MENARDS) had 2 different ones to choose from, a yellow and a white, the white was the kind I needed.
More on that later!
Mac
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Looked over the boat again after work today. It looks pretty well yet, but suffered some "nubbing" again...... Had that issue in the first coat and not exactly sure why or what does that.
It isnt dirt in the paint..... and I am confused as to why the final coat has it, but the previous coats (except the first) didnt have any at all......
There is a spot that was gone over when all was done.... that was a no-no...... I should have left it alone, but my wife insisted I try to get the sag out...... which was in the previous coat....not going to fix that one........OOPS :( :P
The transom looks perfect.....literally perfect.... and of course it has the most stuff on it to draw your eye from the imperfections it doesnt have...... ::)
Overall, I am pleased. I think it turned out well, and frankly, not bad for a Garage job.
I will have just enough paint to do the deck. So the topsides are officially DONE.
I have done my best and worked to be as clean as possible. Sometimes that is all you can do.
Mac
3 people came by to see the progress.
I must be more critical of my work than I need to be.... Each one said it was sprayed, and my neighbor came by knowing I rolled it and insisted I sprayed it.
Feels good to get compliments already.
I am hoping to do as good a job on the deck. I will start working on it tomorrow, May 6th.
Mac
I hereby nominate Mac as the official repainter of CPYOA members boats. All in favor say Aye!
Bob23- Aye
Aye!
seconded. also, aye.
Looking GOOD, Jason!
I can't wait to see the final job.
AYE here too, Bob.
Allen
You guys crack me up, and I appreciate the compliments!
My wife has had me busy visiting the in law grandparents and doing things around the house..... Maybe tomorrow I can get the side stripes done, and hopefully soon I will get the deck primed!
Man this is taking a while, A sailor at the marina told me today that I am not missing any sailing, He wouldnt go out during this flooding, too much junk floating around.
Made me feel better not having it done yet ;)
Mac
(I am guessing you guys are gonna line em out out front of my house? LOL)
Well it looks like the ayes have it.
The motion is carried. As the instigator of this paricular shannigan, I'll volunteer my 23 as the first MacPaint project. Thanks, Mac. You really are a swell guy! We'll put the boats anyplace you want. I'll leave Saturday morning...btw- how long is this gonna take?
Your repaint is giving me another reason to head west to CLR 2013.
Bob23
(ps) Can you do mine in jet black? I think a beige deck would go well, don't you? You will be revarnishing all the teak, right? And the bottom paint? I didn't think you'd forget that!!!!!!!!!!
Piling on again Bob? BTW mine is the first in line for jobs east of the western Penn Border.
TG
Technically, isnt my boat the first MacPaintJob? LOL
I can see I am going to need to buy more land to get shop setup....... this isnt going to be cheap....
Today I finished sanding the deck, wore myself out, took a nap, then got back to it.
Sanded some more corners, etc. some spots that were missed and such.
Finally ended with a hot water damp cloth wipe down of the whole deck. Dried some spots before I left em for the night.
Here is the game plan according to what my paint rep and I solved out as far as prep work, and procedure for the deck.
I have sanded almost everything with various grits of 80 to 150. Green scotch brite and red scotch brited the non skid rope look areas in the cockpit. Green scotch brites are a waste of time in my opinion.... It was all my wife found at WalMart..... During a trip to Menards, I saw them and bought around 8 pads. Went back over the knotted rope areas.
I also used scotchbrite in the areas that are harder to get paper into. This worked well.
Next I plan to 404 PrimeKote the deck, 2 coats, except the knotted rope areas.
The knotted rope areas will just be painted with their prospective coatings.
I have done the 2 seats and the gray turned out well, no non skid additive for the seats.
Pics tomorrow probably.
Mac
<Following with rapt attention and anxious anticipation>
Todays work was tough, but she is sitting under primer on the deck! YAYA!
After 2 days being robbed from me from what we believe was food poisoning (NO DETAILS......Your Welcome!)
I finally (after work) got to prime the boat, using Epoxy PrimeKote 404.
This was a tough job to say the least...... Lots of rolling, lots of corners, and looks to be a lot of re smoothing when I get in to sanding the primer.....
Not a big deal, better having it in the primer than the paint.
I have done a experiment for everyone as well, I stacked 3 coats of primer on in one night..... OMG!?!?!??!
Yes, 3 coats in one night....... So the real question is, .......will it be good??
Only tomorrow will tell, here is some pictures of how I left it tonight. Lets hope no cracks, etc from solvent entrapment tomorrow.
Without Risk, There is no Reward. (Heres to hoping I don't eat those words! LOL)
Mac
Sanded deck, so prior to priming with Epoxy Primekote 404.
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Tonight's work:
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I guess this is proof as to why your'e called MacGyver! Looking nice. I can't wait for mine to be done!
Bob23
it's gonna look brand new!
Great Job Mac!!!
Very nice work Mac -- You are an inspiration! Matt
I await the results---though not holding my breath--that didn't work out so well. I admire your determined and almost driven desire to turn your boat into the ultimate re-done 19--actually more like any re-done small boat. Mike
P.S.---Keep all the pics and vids---I see at least an article sometime in your future in DIY mags--if not an e-book. I know you are doing YouTube, an excellent way to get your expertise out there. Since you mention the product you use, you might include one or more shots with the product container in it. You never know when someone needs that DIY touch of the real world. I know there are people on this forum that know a he-- of a lot more about this stuff than I do, but make sure you document and keep copies of anything you post if in fact any other opportunities present themselves in the future. It would be kind of a drag to see presentations done out of you hard work without some type of acknowledgement about where it came from. I know you can let people use your stuff as long as they say who it came from, and even set conditions like they can use it as long as they aren't using it in some money producing effort, and if they are that you are entitled to some of it. I guess what I am also saying is your results will be so impressive as to use as an example to other DIY types.
As you can see I have money on the brain right now, the middle of April (15) tends to do that to me. Mike
:D Thanks everyone!
The stacking of the coats of 404 paid off, and it looked really good. The next part was a real pain......
I am still sanding with 220 grit, and a shout out to Wes, Thanks for the quick response on email, It made me rethink what I was doing and I gor my second wind.
The issue was it was sanding extremely hard...... and I was wearing out. I used my 5 inch Milwaukee variable speed (HIGHLY recommend a variable speed) random orbit sander.
I would turn it way down and use it for some of the areas and the big flats I would run it close to wide open.
In around 3 hours, I was barely a 1/4 of the boat sanded..... it was sanding like concrete.... and I was pissed off. Didnt help I bounced my head off a Harken Hoister I have in my garage and bout knocked myself out (seriously, that had to be the hardest I have ever hit my head....)
Not making much progress, My wife came out to encourage me...... which I handled horribly. She said at one point "WHO in their right mind would use this stuff?!?!?!?"
A call to my Interlux Rep (to chew him out for even having me use this wretched product) and a email to Wes, knowing he had done this job before, I sat and waited for a response.
Wes set me straight with the answers (and quickly! THANKS!) I needed, and after a call to my grandpa to borrow his identical sander, my wife started sanding with me. We tag teamed the boat and it is about 5/8 progression before we quit for the day.
This has been a lot slower than I thought it would go. This is harder to sand (in my opinion) than GelKote.
I can honestly say that I cant wait for the project to be over with, and frankly, can honestly say, unless your retired, dont start a project like this till near winter..... give yourself a lot of time. (My opinion of course....)
We plan to sand more tomorrow after I am home from work. Hopefully in a few days I will be rolling paint.......... ;)
I also just ordered my outboard from OnlineOutboards.com
Tohatsu 6hp, 25 inch shaft.
The local dealer I asked for a price from well over a week ago still hasnt got back to me after a few courtesy calls, so I ended up purchasing online.... hate to do that, but I hate not to get called back as well.
While cleaning the shop, I found that I havent done anything with the gas tank seat cover......... and I found the unfinished Rudder project as well............
My list is long, but I am determined to be completed atleast a week before CLR....... That way I get one day of practice for the big race! ;)
More later!
Mac
May 23rd Update:
Today is my birthday. The big 32 ;D
The deck sanding isnt going as well as planned, I had hail damage and spent a lot of time on the phone for both vehicles, and the house..... explaining to friends and family, etc.......So not much work got done..
Last night I taped off the boat, and took pictures to explain the process for a seamless paint job... Today I painted it so I could feel like I was accomplishing something... LOL
I started by taping off 3/4 of a inch into the bottom of the boat, so that I painted further than I needed, which is then taped back upward and sanded off, to create a solid waterline..... boy I hope that makes sense.....
So now to get my original line back, I taped a 3/4 inch line, then taped above it.
This pic shows the green line raising the water line back up.
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This pic shows the taping above the line that needs to come off.
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The bottom line is then pulled off, and the bottom is sanded up to the new line, which situates the water line back to its rightful position.
This next set of pictures is of the top stripe, sadly 2 other pics where too blurry to make sense.... but I can explain with no issues.
I tape into the curvature with 2 inch tape. 2 inch tape holds a great line stability with barely any stretch which will cause waves in the stripe.
By running 2----2 inch passes of tape, one butting the other, I now have a 4 inch stripe. Due to the 1/4 inch curvature into the lip of the hull to deck seam, that actually comes to 3 and 3/4 inches. The original stripe was 4 and 3/4. So I follow up with a 1 inch stripe making the proper spacing.
Super easy, and pretty quick. Faster than using a tape measure to figure all of this out.
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The front is a cut at a 45 degree angle, which was simple, I just used my roofing square and was careful to not be on bolts as to set my angle improperly.
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After this, I tape yet again with a better line holding tape, butted to my layout tape. I then peel the layout tape off and use it to mask past my new tape line. This extra masking is used to allow me to run past my tape line when painting. I call the technique "over rolling" as when I paint I move fast, so I need the extra room to help give me a smooth finish.
Here are a few pictures of the paint on the topsides (the Platinum/gray color) and the now Blue stripe. Note the reflections of our Nissan Rogue and the new outboard :D
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Blue, First coat.
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And lastly a shot from the front, showing some of that over taping that I did so I can over roll.
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Due to the time it is taking from me to complete the boat, and other engagements, I have been unable to do much more than make videos and take pictures as I go along. I have not been able to edit video to show you all, or anything like that because it takes me a lot of time to do that stuff to make sure I get all the details I find relevant into the videos.
I will end up getting to make the videos later, after the boat is finished..... It is easy for me to continue to answer questions, etc though, so ask away if needed, and I will answer the best I can.
Thanks for following this massive job, I cant wait to reclaim my garage some day...... oh.... and go SAILING
Mac ;)
When do you feel it is best to remove the masking? Right after painting while the paint is wet, or do you let it fully cure? Curious what leaves a better line?
Harrier,
Typically I will pull tape when it is cured or right after the last coat.
I pull the tape at a 90 degree angle, this tends to cut the paint cleanly. I also use good tapes to run my lines and junk tapes to mask off surrounding areas.
A couple of paint types require the use of Fine Line tape. It is a vinyl tape that does a good job of cutting an edge neatly.
Most of your bottom paints can be done with a firm stocky tape that pulls a clean edge when done. I use a 3M green tape when doing 2000 and paint because the edge looks nicer when done. I pull tape on them right after the last coat of paint dries.
Mac
This morning before I went to work I gave the blue its final coat.
Then pulled the tape, what a magnificent sight. Man this looks fantastic!
After work, My friend and I spent 3.5 hours sanding the deck..... to think that I had put in an hour before he got there, and have about another 6 to 8 before that..............
Maybe I am being too picky...... who knows, but the good thing is, she is ready for paint TOMORROW!
Here are some more pics of the blue stripe.
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Mac
Mac,
What are you going to do with the rub rail?
I sure hope you go with the new one with the Stainless Steel stripe, like what is on the new Com-Pacs. That paint is way too pretty tut an old dry rotted rub rail on.
Just my two cents.
Looks fantastic!
Billy,
I plan to use the old stuff actually just to save for right now. But your idea sounds interesting..... I might have to look into that rubrail next year. Buying that outboard I think finished us off, LOL
There is a dye like stuff that is supposed to "renew" the rubrail.... so we will see how that goes.
Mac
What a fantastic day! First coat is applied to the deck!
This really helped to brighten my day, It is going to look fantastic if I dont say so myself!
Here are a few pics I shot before leaving the shop for the night. Looks like I only have a few sags, ::) I might not even worry about them till the 2nd coat is on.
Tomorrow I might try for 2 more coats.
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Mac :) :) :) :)
Well, after today all I can say is it looks as good as it looks. That is hard work, and now I know how hard it can be.
I rolled the deck, and tried to run as clean a shop as I could when painting the deck.
The final coat is now done, looks like it has covered all the primer spots, and seems to be as even as I could apply it....... The only way to do this job better is spraying (not a option for me as the overspray is a problem....) and or having 2 guys painting running down each side of the boat.
It could have helped to have someone watching every moment, if you have excellent lighting (mine sadly is good at best...and I have some very bright lighting.) and maybe they could catch every flaw as it happens in order to fix it.
Total job for the white part was 2 quarts. 3 coats. and about 6 2 inch roller covers and 3 of the 4 inch covers. I thinned the first 2 coats slightly to allow it to flow better. Didnt thin the last coat (maybe that was another issue..... who knows)
At any rate, the job looks well, and frankly is the best I could do. Here are a few parting pictures.
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My inspector.
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Good night everyone, lets hope tomorrow when it flows out it turns out nicely. :)
Mac
Success!
Just completed the RUDDER FOIL PROJECT, and man does it look good!
Floated it in the bathtub and it has what looks to be proper balance from the looks of it.
I will post pictures later, in its unfinished state, as it will be primed and painted along with the bottom.
All edges sealed against the blade.
3 layers of glass.
Also I have most of the deck taped off for the non skid and gray sections.....
But first going to celebrate the rudder project with some friends! Then more work after dinner!
Mac
Mac:
Thanks for the play-by-play coverage of the repainting of your boat. Er, yacht. Sorry. But I know you ain't gonna tease us about the rudder and not post a photo. That would be just plain mean, man.
This thing is looking so good I may have to drive to CLR just to check it out!
Bob23
I dont tease, LOL, I just get caught up in doing something and sometimes dont meet the deadlines I set for myself! LOL
I uploaded them this morning finally as I wait to call and bother my paint rep.
The rudder needs a little fairing fill for a few spots, but after that fill and light sand it will be getting 2000 and paint like the bottom.
I will say this much, it is a larger profile than the NACA foil (Thanks for those again Bob23!) due to the build out of the glass and such, as the foam and wood is the actual size.
The trailing edge is sill the width of the plate roughly, which I am good with because normal rudders have some kind of dimension on the trailing edge due to strength.
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The top edge is glassed against the plate, all the way around, to keep water out.
The bottom was glassed over 6 times in the nose (I did remove some nose to help facilitate this) to allow dragging without the need for fast repair to keep water from intruding.
All in all, I cant wait to try it out. and I hope its ability to float somewhat will help raise it up.
Here are a few pictures of the deck taped off, This morning it has one coat of paint on it, about to get another.
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Mac
MODIFIED:
I am adding pics of todays work, after the second coat of nonskid and paint.
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Up close of non skid modifier on the sliding hatch.
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Just wait till I pull tape off......... tomorrow after work I will probably do that as I have one more coat of paint to apply over all this.
Mac
Look at all that masking - I get tired just thinking about it ;D
Thanks for continuing to share. Its an inspiration
Hey Jason,
Looks great! Together Time is really going to stand out in her new glowing makeover!
Keep the footage coming! ;D
Thanks guys!
I just got done with the last coat of paint, (color only, no modifier) and I am hoping that tomorrow morning or after work, will tell me whether or not it needs another coat.
we have the storage seats from the cockpit done already so we have those to compare too. otherwise it will be Wednesday for tape removal....... I am hopeful tape will come off after work..... Those will be some nice pics to put up.......
That will give me a few days to repair hardware and get everything ready for sealing down to which my friend Brad has already got it in his schedule to be ready to help me. I almost think he is as excited as me to get this thing done!
Mac
Last coat was this morning! Right before I went to work!
Ladies and Gentlemen, here is the deck, un-taped!
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This upcoming Sunday will be install day for the hardware. I cant hardly contain myself. A couple neighbors came over knowing I was going to untape it and literally stood and watched as I did it. What a spectacle, Sometimes I wondered if they were happier than I as I threw tape on the ground.
:D :D
Lots of work ahead, but I am over the hurdle!
Mac
Holy Boatshine Batman!
That's going to look so sharp when it's put back together.
Looks like Wrinkles, Knot Fast and Island Time have some real heavy competition for prettiest boat at CLR now with Together Time putting some skin in the game.
However since the title of Most Decorated Compac at CLR is based on overall results in all categories--the race, Dockside Demeanor (aka show and shine), Best Sailing Hat, the infamous CrazyCarl award (which you really don't WANT to win!), you still have some work cut out for you. ;D ;D ;D 8)
I love the idea of a "CRAZY CARL AWARD" at all future CLR's.
I need to get back on Wrinkles and practice that nifty lawn chair snagging maneuver. Hehehe!
Mike
Mac:
That is really beautiful. Great job! I hope when you do my 23, she looks just as good!
Bob23
(One can only wonder what the Crazy Carl Award will be!)
LOL You guys crack me up
I started putting the hardware back on starting with the compass..... that was a good place to begin to point me in the right direction...... (my wife came up with that ;D )
That set the mood for the evening as my friend Brad and I installed some of the transom things.
Ginger (my wife) shined up a port hole, and it looks pretty good. the inside of the boat should look really good too with that extra added touch!
We used BUTYL TAPE for the first time! WOW, I really love that stuff, it is AMAZING!
Both Brad and my wife said "Man this is easier to clean up than that Life Caulk! They werent kidding!
We also put the outboard motor bracket on, which my friend and I believe needs a backer plate after hanging the new motor on it..... Also, since my motor bracket is different from what I have seen on everyone else's boat, we are wondering whether or not it is going to work as well as it does of everyone else's boats...... It looks as if it is going to interfere with the stern rail..... time will tell..... Sunday the stern rail goes on.
Did I mention BUTYL TAPE is AMAZING??
Well, I dont have any pictures to share, because the phone wont upload to photobucket........ so much for smart phones.....
Oh!, and Use BUTYL TAPE, IT IS AMAZING
Mac :D :D :D
jason,
i removed the bow rail from our boat this afternoon and found little to no sealant under it. there was more dirt than anything.
i can't believe water wasn't pouring in from there. the inside of the rail was full of water and what appears to be spider nests.
after blowing it out with the air hose and letting it sit in the sun for 3 hours, i installed it using butyl tape.
i found cleaning it up with interlux 202 solvent did a nice job. however, i did get some on the bottom of my shoes and tracked it in house.
we'll see how long this stuff lasts. small craft advisor magazine has an article in the latest issue about butyl tape.
carl
Mac:
I get the funny feeling that your'e trying to tell us that Butyl tape is amazing? And I thought you were a life-caulk-no-matter-what guy. Glad you saw the light! I've used it for bedding my stanchions on my 23 and it was great. A bit sticky in hot weather but if I'd managed to track it in the house Carl style, I'd be pushing up daisys right now.
Carl:
I subscribe to SCA but haven't read that article yet...to busy drooling over the Melonseed Skiff ad on the inside front cover. The boat, not the girl sailing it. Great magazine.
Bob23
The authority on bedding with butyl...
http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=117172 (http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=117172)
Carl, the Butyl tape is nice stuff, does seem a bit messier than I thought it would be......
I had some bolts that I bought that ended up being too long, so not I am going to clean them up so I can return them. I am going to try mineral spirits.... hope that works.
Today and yesterday I spent the entire day, breaking bolts, bolting things back on, and sealing things up. Also installed a headliner which was interesting to say the least.
I spent I cant tell you how much time running into and out of the cubby holes in the back to attach or rebolt things.... Horrible time wasted....
I had a lot of fun installing the rubrail.. The sun peeked out and we would stretch it in the drive way then run in and put it on. A few tries and it was good finally. My buddy had to leave (after putting in a 8 hour day here with me!!) and we didnt get the rear rubrail on.
So far, I have the port and starboard portholes to install, all the woodwork and the genoa tracks and both side winches and cleats that are by the winches.
I would say another couple nights work will have this baby done.
Then it is off for a bottom job I think so we can clean up all the cushions and such in the garage. ..... I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.......but it still looks so damn far away.......
Mac
jason,
must be nice to have someone to help out. i haven't been able to remove and re-install anything but the bow rail because i have to work alone. crawling inside the aft storage area to run new stern light wire was a chore in itself. there was one point i wished i had my phone to call the fire dept. then i decided "no, they'll cut my boat apart to get me out". i was so stuck i just laid there for some time. joanie was out and i visioned her coming home to a nasty odor emanating from the boat. she would have someone investigate, only to find my carcass wedge in some grotesque position.
obviously i made it out, but it left me with scrapes and bruises everywhere.
i'll have to pick your brain at CLR as to the best and easiest way to remove the ports. i want to clean up the interior teak.
carl
Mac, Not all butyl tape is created equal. I bought a couple rolls from Compass Marine. Not messy at all. Clean up is a cinch.
Harrier, I bbought mine from Sailrite thinking that would be good, it is kinda stringy somewhat, but when I cut with my plastic razor blades, it is clean as can be, and looks fantastic. I just need to take my time..... My grandpa kept pulling it all off right away, that doesnt seem to be too good, but can be cleaned up later.... it all worked out.
Carl, I should show you the way I get in and out of the boat. you are skinnier than me, and if you have any upper body strength you should be able to snake in a bit quicker. Still a pain, but it works good.
UPDATE FOR TODAY:
The boat is about a day from starting paint on the bottom. I have the boat together mostly, only needing woodwork, Portholes, and a few fit and finish things.
I also need to get a little wiring done on the boat so the mast can work this year....... I have the wiring fitting, but just havent put it all in yet.
I am kinda starting to pick what jobs to pass on........ at some point it would be nice to see if I can still sail that boat.....
Here is a few pics that I was able to upload before that darn Photobucket app quit......
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Hopefully in the next few days I will have nice pictures with it outdoors, I plan to pull it from the shop maybe tomorrow to get the shop cleaned out, or Thursday late for sure to take it to the marina to lift it.
I will be sure to post pics for everyone to see..... it sure looks nice.
Mac
jason,
i may be thinner, but i'm older and not as pliant as i was at your age. :D
carl
LOL Carl, My grandpa says age is a figment of the imagination, but that the aches and pains arent, :D
Today, "Together Time" made its first appearance outside the shop. Here are some pictures.
She goes to the marina with me in the morning to be lifted at some point for a paint job on the bottom. That will really spruce her up a bit.
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In this picture you can see how the rudder is setup now with the foil done.
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Mac
J-Mac: Yo,yo,yo...she looks great! My 23 is coming around the corner near your house right now!
Great job...hope I can see her in person some time. You sure did a lot of work in a short time. Congrats! I raise my paint cans to ya!
Bob23
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Mac your 19 makes me drool.
TG
What a fine looking yacht you have there, mac! :D :D :D ;D
And it's not even 100% yet.
Together Time is coming along nicely indeed.
Geez Mac, we're feeling pretty bad up here in Wisconsin. You've just about completely renovated your 19 and we haven't so much as washed Wrinkles yet. Nice work! We are anxious for CLR 2013 so we can see her.
Mike and Brenda
Mac,
Your boat looks fantastic. Truly an inspiration. Makes me feel a little guilty that mine hasn't been treated as lovingly. Maybe next year.
Saluki
Thanks everyone!
I just applied the last coat of bottom paint (Fiberglass BottomKote NT Blue) over the 2000. still have to paint the slings yet, but she is coming along well.
Pulled the tape and snapped a few pictures before I left the shop.
First one is Ginger posing in front of the boat, she was really happy to see it lifted and that I sanded it. She actually came out and watched me sand it........ must have been to be sure I was going to actually work on it, not just sit and stare (I was really really really wore out.....)
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Here is how it looks with the bottom paint.
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Tomorrow I am going to work in my home shop to cut some pieces to bump the motor mount out some, and try to catch up on the woodwork. "Together Time" wont come back home till Tuesday at 3pm. That should be ample time for cure in this type of weather.
When the shop doors were open, customers were asking "Who has that new boat?" and "Why is that new boat in the sling in the shop?"
Pretty cool feeling to show it off on work time........ lots of compliments.
Cant wait for you all to see it at CLR, especially since most of you follow the progress. Once this is done, hopefully I can follow through with the video editing! Lots of stuff to go through!
Thanks again for the compliments! I sincerely appreciate it!
Mac
looks good! planing to re-paint next year, hope it comes out half that good.
well jason i see that youre just about done with my boat. let me know when i can pick her up. shes a beauty
;) SSullivan, I should have vids up on how to paint like that sometime in the coming months.... After all this work I am taking a break for a bit, LOL
Steve, wait till you see the name......... we just designed that tonight as well, and boy Ginger did a fantastic job!
UPDATE:
FINALLY got the woodwork on..... man.... what a job. None of it is new woodwork, but it is old stuff, redone to work out decently.
The old is in rough shape (to me....) and I have new wood to rework most of it. we are using the old for time reasons.... it would just take me too long to make new stuff to my liking. So that is going to wait to Winter.
The planned launch was Thursday the 20th. but that isnt going to happen. So now the day will be Sunday the 23rd in the morning. My wife sings in a band that day at 1pm till about 5 pm. So we plan to sail the "Together Time" after that.
While typing this, I am listening to "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane, one of the songs she performs with such awesomness. So to setup and launch the boat, then go drink and listen to music, and then go sail should be a fantastic launch day.
Back to the project: The wood was installed with butyl, as a matter of fact, I have only used the Lifecaulk on the port holes, to seal around the actual port hole. The bolts for them are butyl.
The new wiring thru deck connector is a 4 prong. Just for expandability that will happen in the future. To get me by on some of my wiring I am using some wire I had around, as this project also will wait to be corrected in the Winter, this boat screams to be sailed, and frankly I am ready to indulge.
The last job to be done is the names, and the reg numbers. And the motor mount, which will be installed tomorrow. I plan to reinstall the mount with (2) 1.5 inch spacer blocks made of UV stabilized and solid Rudder plastic that measure up to 2 inches wide by 10 inches long.
The backer plate inside is 1/4 inch aluminum, and there will be 8 bolts holding all of this together. SOLID to say the least.
I have no pictures...... I hung my boat that I am building literally directly above my head in the shop.... the boats stern rail has about 3 inches clearance to this boat going in.... so pictures come out badly.
In the next day or 2 I will haul it out and snap some more with all the completed work. She needs a bath.........
Thanks for following the progress! I will be posting how to do's at some point.
Mac
Today Ginger and I had the daunting task of installing the motor mount, which went fairly well, I only had to crawl in and out 3 times.
The sheaves I ordered to replace the ones on the deck organizer werent the right shaft diameter, close but no cigar....
After that we leak tested the boat to a wonderful ending, NO LEAKS
So it became beer thirty with the neighbors for a successful day.
She is washed and back in the shop for the night.
Mac
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The plan was to launch her today..... but that didnt happen due to rain prolonging getting some jobs done.
So today we installed the bimini, and had to shorten it 3 times in trial and error. It still doesnt quite clear the boom, but I am one inch away from having it where the factory (bimini maker factory) installed one of the bows.
They said I could cut her down 6 inches..... we cut off 8. I am really surprised it doesnt clear.... It actually hits the cente 2 feet of the bimini.......... OH WELL.
Like the Admiral Ginger says: "It is what it is" a page out of my book. Besides she was probably tired of seeing me and my grandpa sweating it out and the main flopping about as we dry sailed the boat in the driveway in order to check for clearance.........
I also finished the trim inside, amongst other items. She is quite finished.... but close enough that we will put her in early tomorrow morning.
Today brought more bad (but has a brightside) crap that happened.......
The last few days have been rough. Ginger backed into someone at a eatery, but luckily, no damage, no problems..... I drilled into my hand...... but luckily it is healing great and no trip to ER or DR....... I had a buyer for my moped, who then backed out at the last minute during the test drive (which took away from working on the boat mind you) because the foster kid is probably now going to lose his job because he is really lazy....... I am so glad I held onto it for a month to sell to them at a really good deal...... (Good side is im not taking a loss.......)
TODAY: I drilled a hole for the cabin light.... first hole, no issues.... 2nd, no sweat. THIRD..... day light.
the cabin isnt square in my boat..... now I know..... and even though it was right next to the original holes........ I still drilled through. Lucky side (as this is a trend this week) It was a 1/16th size... so I filled it and used white lifecaulk to match it to the paint for now....
Boy was I mad........ what a week.
Needless to say, I look forward to putting it in tomorrow.... It better go well, or I am going to lose my freaking mind.
Mac
Mac
Mac,
On the bimini/boom clearance... can you raise your boom up? On Serenity I have to keep the boom just below the opening in the sail track to clear the bimini. If I have it down lower I don't have enough clearance. I use a sail stop below the boom to keep it in place when the mainsail isn't raised.
Shawn
Shawn,
I actually raised the main as high as I could, then tightened the downhaul (attached to the boom, then tighten down to the cleat on the mast) to tighten my luff.
Then swung the boom back and forth with the mainsheet attached.
Would a looser luff be alright? We kinda thought maybe in low winds it would be good to sail with bimini up, but as they progressed, to then have bimini down to better facilitate seeing the main and headsail since we are noobs yet.
It does seem that my boom gooseneck would be closer to the slot..... I did start with it right at the bottom before tightening the downhaul... but it tightened a lot...... also the back of the sail is holding the boom up, because my topping lift was slackened.
let me know what you think
Mac
Mac,
"Would a looser luff be alright?"
It isn't optimal but it is doable. If you want to avoid that have a cunningham cringle sewn into your mainsail. You can then raise the boom and tension the luff with the cunningham. Sailing with the bimini up is a little trickier in not being able to see the headsail as well but on hot days the shade makes a huge difference.
Shawn
Mac,
Here is how my bimini works with the boom.
When not under sail the boom does sit on the bimini....barely. But with the mainsheet tight the boom does not rub back and forth on the top. also I shortened my topping lift to raise the boom off the bimini.
And then when I raise the sail, I loosen the topping lift and the curve of the sail keeps the boom up off the canvas.
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so with the sail down it does touch the canvas, but doesn't rub. And then I just shorten the topping lift.
Sail up, the curve of the sail lifts it off the bimini.
Shawn, Not sure about a 23 but on my 19 the angle of the mainsheet does not allow the bimini to go too far back. When at the helm I have no trouble seeing the main sail. However, I am not in the shade.
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but I do have a tiller extension for those really hot summer days we have here in FL.
Mac,
How is your halyard attached to the sail?
A eye splice? a bowline?
What size shackle do you have attached to the headboard of your mainsail?
Going w/ a smaller shackle or tighter knot could also free you up an inch or two.
On my boat it is close but when under sail it doesn't touch. adjust that topping lift and that should help. Maybe have two settings......long for when you are under sail and short for when you are motoring and while at anchor or at the dock. Some people like a pig tail on the back stay but personally I don't like not having the boom connected to something.....I'm too forgetful.
Boat looks great by the way.
"adjust that topping lift and that should help. Maybe have two settings......long for when you are under sail and short for when you are motoring and while at anchor or at the dock."
Instead of having the clip on your topping lift put a fairlead V cleat on the back of your boom. Run the topping lift through that and put a stopper knot in it. That will let you adjust the topping lift as needed very quickly and easily.
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Shawn
Thanks you Billy and Shawn.
To answer a few questions: I do have my main sail attached to the main halyard with a bolen, (sp) that is tightened to be as tight as I can get it onto the headboard. No shackle so I have less banging things on the mast.
On the topping lift I do only have one position, and that idea to add a second, or make it adjustable is something more I will look into later.
The bimini isnt on the boat yet, so once I install it totally I will fly the main and see what happens.
We launched the boat Monday, went fairly well, having my friend across the street help me. I was really hoping to get the names on it in time....... but they werent done. Just something I will have to do in the slip.
The rig is now tuned as of today and we went out! Boy, was I overwhelmed.... I guess not being out in several months had me back to being a bigtime noob.
The gusts came and boy I would gasp......Boat would barely heel...... But as we went along I did well, getting better and more at ease. So we kept moving along, watching a oday 26 in the distance get hit by the gusts and lay over quite a bit...... Here we sailed on just the main, headsail ready to deploy if we so desired....
We never did use the Jib. But we did sail out past the dam, (short trip for those that dont know Carlyle) and back, then went into a small cove and sailed down wind for a bit drawing attention from the campers. Then we turned and tacked back and forth till we headed back out into the lake, back to the turnaround spot from before.
All in all we spent about 2 hours under sail. By the end I was really regaining my trust in the boat, and the confidence I was building on last year after my adventures with Rich.
Today was also the day to run the new SailPro 6hp back to the marina, for a small run, it was running no more than the recommended for the break in procedure. She scooted us along at a good speed and slightly over idle...... amazing little engine.
Started out of the box on the first pull. The only issue I have is that it is kinda shakey....... I cant come up with another word to describe it.....
It does vibrate a bit worse than my old 2 stroke, but for the ease of use, the fact that it is in the water a nice amount, and that it also tilts to almost horizontal completely out weight the negative.
Another BIG gain is that RUDDER.... WOW, WHOA. AMAZING.
I see everyone post of the changes, and frankly I couldnt imagine it. But now, after seeing the boat power through at a low speed into the wind for a tack, I know it is that rudder. The boat also feels tighter surprisingly enough...... I mean really, tighter steering. and no connections were changed or messed with.... Just the foil added.
Also, with the way I added the foam, and such, it hasnt tilted up on me (but I am only in the beginning stages of testing....) and the lift at the end of the day..... well, she with a slight nudge will float slowly up on her own.
With the spacing off of the hull on my motor mount, during testing on land, neither the rudder or prop make contact.
Another change I made was to add a inline block at the end of the boom for the mainsheet. Instead of the standard Ronstan side by side one, the inline Lewmar was way better, the mainsheet doesnt tangle up like it did last year.
The lifelines are Amsteel, 5/16 I beleive, and I used a simpler method of splicing, that I hope to show soon (still having photobucket issues) and look amazing as well, they actually look like they are the right lifeline for the boat to be honest.
I have also been working on a mod for the lifeline cushions. maybe I can get those back on soon.....
Well, with that, I will stop going on. I just had to share, as to my surprise the different things really made the boat that much nicer overall.
Next few days I will be working on my mainsail cover, and Together Time will sit happily in her slip, showing off her fanciful new job as the only ComPac in the harbor..... atleast until CLR, when her family comes in for a visit!
Mac (Pictures as soon as my app allows it!)
Wow, Mac- many congrats are in order! So glad you and Together Time got out for a sail now that she's has a great new look! Wish I coulda been there with you!
I don't know about the 19's but my 23 doesn't get out of her own way without the jib up. I've found that even as the wind pipes up, dousing the jib isn't as effective as reefing both main and jib.
Again, congrats! Can't wait till you paint my boat. Do you do trucks and cars, too?
Bob23
Congrats to you Mac and your amazing First Mate Ginger. You guys will have a beautiful boat to show off and sail. All the work you folks did will reward you for years to come.
We'll be seeing you two and Together Time very soon.
Mike and B
this is why i have decided to have a secret ballot on who has the prettiest boat this year. and no i wont be voting for the audrey j
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this is why i have decided to have a secret ballot on who has the prettiest boat this year. and no i wont be voting for the audrey j
We won't vote for Wrinkles either. We haven't so much as washed the winter gook off fer yet. We are sailing, but we ain't cleaning.
We'll just let the Time Twins (Island and Together) battle it out.
Mike and B
hey jason, sarah and i were up at the lake on monday. when we left the house the sky looked pretty clear but as we headed east it began to rain and was raining when we arrived. however, we did get to see "together time" in the water. she looks great. a very nice job indeed. i better get to work if im gonna get my 16 cleaned up for next week. she has got to look good passing the finish line. see ya next week.
Thanks Steve
We are looking forward to next week also, might actually get a 2nd sail in!
Ginger was able to get the whole weekend off also finally just yesterday, so vacation worked itself out luckily.
I need to pull the boat sometime to get the names put on it, and registration numbers. Hopefully it compliments the boat!
Pulled the boat today as I figured it would be easier to do the names and reg numbers than to do it in the water. I also have had a "crick" in the neck for like a week and a half that my Chiro couldnt get rid of...... :(
Icy Hot applied, we went to go work on the boat.
Pulling went better than my wife had thought it would. I was glad to hear that. means we are getting better at it. ;D
We forgot to bring water..... so getting dry in the mouth and a flaming hot back (due to the icy hot in the sun..... >:( ) We applied the names and stood back to observe the placement. We then moved up to the bow to "ruin the boat" as I call it by placing the reg numbers.....
It actually turned out fairly well, so we relaunched it as my shirt was burning off my back (Trust me Icy Hot and the sun dont mix even when covered up.....)
Now we are waiting on some friends to go out with us today for a swim and sail. Going to be a nice day!
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Mac Very nice job. Time to play now......have fun.
NAY
Thanks Nay!
We went out about 1 pm, to a decent lake, power boaters galore, and the little sailboat harbor running a race. It was really cool to see all the boats out sailing, and a couple power boaters hanging around a race bouy..... made me wonder how that faired for them when the sailboats came to round it.....
We sailed across to McNair which is a straight shot from the marina. Anchored out and jumped in. What a great day, nice easy sail with my friend at the helm trying to get the boat to 15 degree heel. laughing as they see me get nervous through the gusts........ it was a lot of fun.
The best part though, was when Ginger got out of the water onto the boat to go pee. She gets down into the boat, all situated to do the job and as that was happening one of the several powerboats that decided to run full speed past us was running about 1/4 throttle. The wake he was pushing was massive, probably 1.5 foot to 2 foot rollers.......
As they went past us 3 that were swimming, they battered the boat which rode on top of them hitting the boat broad side......
All you could hear over our laughter was Ginger yelling "OMG" and her head bobbling around in the half covered hatch.
I did warn her the best I could but couldnt hear the response...... It was HILARIOUS.
The power boater was coming to a stop but the hull style of his boat (he kept it at our marina, so I knew the boat) makes a huge wake under low power....... they sat and watched and pointed when the boat jumped around, I am sure they laughed too........ it had to be a sight.
I had a post about the anchor, and how the 19 bobbles like a bobber...... well, when Ginger got out of the boat, and back in the water, she calmly told me " order the anchor riding sail, order buckets, lines, whatever...... do it. DO IT ALL." Then laughed out loud.
It was a great time, and as we watched the jerk power boaters run close to us, we also watched the boat jump all around tugging like a mad dog at her anchor line......
Anyway, after most of them cleared out, we went ahead and got back in the boat and sailed back in. All of use with a hilarious story to tell. I think that was good, as our friends have never been able to get a good sail with us..... It typically rains us out.
What a great day, a little "Together Time" with friends.
Mac
Quote from: MacGyver on July 07, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Anyway, after most of them cleared out, we went ahead and got back in the boat and sailed back in. All of use with a hilarious story to tell. I think that was good, as our friends have never been able to get a good sail with us..... It typically rains us out.
What a great day, a little "Together Time" with friends.
Mac
This is why this forum is good. Thanks for the story Mac.
Funny story. Although I hate to tell you, but a riding sail won't keep the boat from "Rolling". It really only reduces it from "swinging" while at anchor.
The coffee cans off of each side will help the rolling though.
My best advice would be to have her pee in the water. Then you don't have to empty the port-o-potty later.and she won't be rocking....
My worst advice??? Poke a hole in the hull of the powerboat when it is at the marina. That will help.
well you finally got her done-----not done until she has a name on the hull. she looks GREAT. we will be up there this evening if the two mikes get in. beer in the cooler.
Last Friday the 16th, after Crazy Carl arrived and was setting up, I had already planed to try to single hand the boat. This thought had made me a bit nervous..... I have never gone out on our boat before alone, and despite knowing all that I needed to do, hadnt ever even tried to just do it all myself when I went with my wife, she always does something or another.....
So I started by getting setup, and decided on the 110 Jib just to be safe.
It was a little rough out but not bad. The waves were coming all the way down the lake, so they built pretty good by the time they got to me. I am not exactly sure what the wind was, but with full Jib and Full main, I was heeling around 7 to 10 with bumps up to about 16 degrees.
The first few tacks were simply done, without much issue at all, then I had a problem where I just wasnt fast enough, or I would forget to grab the tiller back after the turn, etc.
But what was cool was no one was there to talk to, no one to say anything about what I had done wrong, or to question things.... It was just me, analyzing the trip, the sails, messing about to see what kind of time I had to do things as I sailed along. My favorite music playing on the stereo in the cabin.
At one point, I wanted to see what would happen if I didnt sit on the high side, So I centered myself in the boat, hoping that the boat would essentially do what it would had it been sailing itself. At times the heel was 20 degrees, and the boat ran along at about 12 to 15 normally.
CrazyCarl, and Kickinbug came out and joined the fun on or around my 4th tack. I think I made about 10 tacks total, which took about 2 to 2.5 hours total. It was a great time weaving back and forth getting really close to Carl's boat, which is something I dont like with any people other than my fellow ComPac-onauts.
It was really a great experience, and I highly recommend it to anyone. It was funny to hear my wife say that she was "worried about me" and "glad to see you finally go out by yourself" all in the same breath. My boss spent around a half an hour just talking about the different things that happened, and what to do to make a few things more user friendly when I do go by myself.
Happy sailing everyone!
Oh, and No Steve, Ginger said I cannot change the name to Single Time........ LOL
Mac
Gusts, Puffs, Not sure what the difference is, but they surely produce the same result.
Today we were unsure if we wanted to go out or not. There was white caps and gusty. We ended up going out for experience, and glad we did. We reefed and headed out with single reef main, (we only have one) and Jib. (115??)
I was telling Ginger about how you can see the puff or gust coming, as it shows a chattering in the water. she was really interested in this and after we had gotten the main set and were sailing along we decided the headsail was next.
She hoisted it up, then I set the jib sheet. We stayed in the cove right outside the harbor, which meant we would get a lot of practice tacking.
We tacked once, and on the second I had her go ahead and set the jib sheet. She held it tightly and started to grumble about how hard it was to hold onto the sheet (she has a funny way of cleating them off, but we were having fun) and just about when she had it cleated off (I wasn't paying attention by this time to the water for gusts/puffs) a big gust hit us pretty hard
The boat heeled way over, enough that Ginger "touched the water!!" and she in her quick thinking let the jib sheet loose, and I steered right into the wind while yelling "hang on!"....... After the ordeal Ginger and I had decided that we had done really well with the problem as we replayed it back analyzing what we had done. With the reefed main only (after fighting to get eh jib down..... still haven't solved my jib downhaul yet..... but I will.) we sailed down wind "moving quite fast, actually, faster than most days on just the main!" Ginger remarked (she thought at the beginning we wouldn't hardly go fast enough on just the reefed main) then tacked back and forth quite a bit to still enjoy the day.
To be honest...... A big thank you to Greenes ,Crazy Carl, and Salty19 for showing me how they reef, and how to reef. This is the second time I have had to reef, and actually had fun when I went out when things looked bad.
The last time was CLR (which is where I picked up the helpful tips) and that was a comfortable sail for the both of us, and normally we wouldn't have gone out at all!
Mac
So, with our decision to keep Together Time, My wife had me start on some other projects she wanted to see done. I ended up making some winch covers for the Lewmar 6's on the boat along with some interior porthole covers. The winch covers was accomplished by using SailRite's materials kit for a winch cover. It worked well as far as construction went. I hope to test them soon.
The porthole cover fits on the inside, and have yet to be tested, along with a few finishing touches....... but I have confidence that they will work well. Here are some pictures:
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Now on to some cockpit cushions I think....... I am a bit nervous.
Mac
Tested the winch covers and the port hole covers, worked very well, so I will complete the others in next few days.
Here is some pictures of them in action!
I am really tickled about the porthole covers!
Mac
Winch Cover, has a small bungee inside to hole it on.
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Porthole cover/shade, front view
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Attachment point view left and right side.
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I haven't said much in a while, it seems that other work has gotten its hold on me, and with my wife's schedule change, we haven't even had much time to go sailing..... 4 times I think total since April 26th....... Today is day 2 in a 3 day weekend for me. Having picked up a riding mower, and getting it frakenstined together, and running somewhat (going to need a new carb, and I dont want to spend the money yet) I finally started the MainSail project.
I just realized with Salty's post about CLR being a month away, I havent really started yet and I need it for the big race...... so this weekend I did. I want to tell anyone who reads this, that building your own sails, although can be troublesome at times, and the first sail will be the hardest, has to be almost more rewarding than that of fully redoing a boat. Now, granted, I did not cut the sail, and all that work, but putting it all together is a feat in itself. requiring careful planning within a space crowded by furniture and daily living items....... dog hair, and dust, tools for redoing the walls (remnants of a project long since forgotten, whereas "the pan is still in the fire")
At some point the adventure of building a sail will take me back out to my garage, where the final touches will be put into place, since that truly is the only place to run such a length of stitches needed to finish it when that time comes. As much as that is rewarding, the completion of a monster, the true "pat on the back" is when your friends, fellow sailors, and folks you dont know, ask where the sails come from, and then are wowed that you made them yourself. No one really cares if you cut them, just the fact you built the kit is cool enough.
Today I finished the head and couple panels, then the foot and a couple panels. My idea as far as what I need to do next to keep it all processing through the machine easily is to make the batten pockets, which I have stressed over night after night for the past few months because frankly, that has kept me from tackling it sooner......... instead, I pour over youtube vids of SailRite making the pockets, and etc, to the point of which one would think by now I would just make them in my sleep......
Anyway, I hope as you read this, that your projects are coming along, and that your sailing time is plentiful. Back to the grind!
Mac
hey buddy, cant wait to see the new sail at the clr. guess the gauntlet has been thrown down. we will find out which boat is faster. catalina 18 or com-pac 19. i must confess i dont have the guts to tackle building a mainsail so i just bought one. by the way did you use the loos gauge? i might meet up with you and get it back to check my rig on wed. we were thinking of sailing today but 95 degrees might put an end to that idea
So I finally got the batten pockets made, and setup, and I am progressing through the rest of the patchwork on the reef points, and also sewing the large panels together. My garage is almost cleaned out enough to move out there, which may need to happen quite quickly. I have been unable to get help sewing it all together and the biggest problem is getting it moved around the biggest room I have in the house with my work out equipment in it..... That is why the garage is starting to look like the answer.
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I also had to break to make some drapes for my wife in the living room. I think they turned out well.
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I also saw this ladder which I really wish I had time to build, but I dont think that will happen.......
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Just another project to add to the list!!
Mac
I havent been on this thread for a while.
I was sitting here, thinking about how much has changed this year. How much has changed as far as if my wife and I were even able to use the boat except for the one week for CLR. That is literally the only time we used it this year........ hell, I even allowed the sticker on the boat to lapse because I had forgotten that was something I had to do to......
I said to my wife about selling the boat..... I am afraid we wont use it again soon. She wont let that happen, says we will use it, she knows we will....... The new job is so much so that I literally dont have time on my days off to call my fellow sailors because I am too busy using every moment to get my house work done. When I work, I work the entire day, I literally get home to go to sleep to do it again the next day. Then suddenly I have a day off, to which I run around completing all that I can to keep the house in some kind of order.
This pattern made me realize how much I miss being able to sail at a whim, short notice, or just because a fellow Compaconaut has come into town for a visit.
I was offered by many to go sailing on Saturdays, on boats I have wanted to sail on for years...... and I cannot even get a chance to do that.
It has made me realize how sad it is that we as a society has damaged our relationship with time off, and its enjoyment. I have often wondered lately why I even work hard to be a manager, like I am working hard for the money? Because I am certainly not playing anymore........ Those folks working part time, and going on vacations, and such looks really nice..... my workers take off all the time....... I have no clue how they can afford to do all that, with kids and payments.... it is boggling my mind. I was looking into another prospective job, and they just laid off 3/4s of the company...... kinda made me rethink leaving this one job.
Anyway, I have some winter projects planned..... If I ever have the time. The boat is in storage, indoor, because we werent using her..... and she deserves to be hidden away from natures onslaught and allowed to be comfy for the winter ahead. Especially since with the new job, I wont have the time to sit at the window and look her over from time to time, to ensure her safety from the massive snows, or blowing freezing winds ahead.
To all my fellow compaconauts: I really do wish I could take the time for a beer, a sail, a laugh...... but this work place and the drive time is just too excessive for me to even get the house work done...... I am sorry my friends, perhaps next year will be better, but deep inside I am very doubtful, as it truly seems it is getting worse.
At least the bills are paid, and she is happy! (the boat and the wife!)
Mac
jason,
i'm going through the same thing.
working 56 to 72 hour weeks and then relandscaping the back yard on the weekends.
our 19 hasn't seen the water this year either.
the planned overnight trips never happened, nor did the weekend bicycle trip.
c.c.
Well, it seems I'm not the only one who time is outwitting! I have a possible cure, one that I practiced many years ago but sadly, have not recently.
A number of years ago, a few close friends of mine decided to do this: Rather than each separately hopelessly whittling away at house projects that we knew we could never complete, decided to work with each others projects together. It worked out great! One weekend I'd have an army of workers at my house, next I'd be part of someone else's army. Lots of work got done, lots of time together with friends and a decent amount of pizza and beer were consumed! Of course it took some planning to organize and get the materials together for whatever needed to be done, but of course it was worth it.
Sadly, those times have passed and most of those friends have relocated elsewhere but at the time it was so much fun and aside from things actually getting done, we had great times busting on each other (you can just imagine if the CLR crew would show up at your house to work!)
Not to get biblical here, but Ecclesiastes chapter 3 states that "To everything there is a season. A time for every purpose under heaven". No, Roger Mcguinn didn't write this but he sure made a great song from the lyrics. It's good to understand that most things are temporal- a time to work and a time to play. I'm no expert on this by any means but rarely I find myself embracing the current situation I'm in and I'm most content that way. But it still stinks not having time to sail and the more I work, I feel I'm getting ripped off my old man Time.
Mac: Be glad you didn't allow yourself to get screwed over by the marina- you were proactive and while currently it's a big drain on you personally, it will get better. And forget about getting everything around your house done! If you manage to do so, you will most likely be the first man on earth to do so.
Although I'd like to see sailing more of a major part of my life, in reality I don't think it will happen. As with you 2 guys, most of my time is spent working and with very little reward for what I get. This winter looks to be one of the hardest in a long time but I am glad the bills are paid and food is on the table. I spent a period of my life long ago when this wasn't so and I vowed to myself that even if I had to work constantly, I'd never go back there again. Being in debt with no possibility of winning that battle is perhaps the worst place to be. Worse than drinking PBR with an obnoxious NJ Compac-o-naut!!!!!
Cheers brothers!
Bob23
Work is what we do to survive, Sailing is what we do to live. Life is too short.... Love, Laugh and take time to enjoy your life. As a country we take less vacation time than any of the industrialized nations of the world. I saw a great bumper sticker the other day: "Don't complain about growing old, it is a privilege denied to many." We only pass this way once so go for it. One of our brethren here has a motto to the effect that when we reflect on our lives, what we will regret is not what we have done, but what we have not done. Sail On!
Thanks guys, each one of you had input that worked for me someway or another.
Bob23, I know getting out from the marina was good, a few events at new job bothered me that really rang in my head reminiscent of the office lady, and I didnt want to get burned again..... But I am coming around to the idea that just doing my best, and leaving it at that is going to have to be good enough.
It is a odd feeling to me to settle for good enough.... I really cared about my work........
Thanks all. Hopefully a few projects this winter and maybe next year ill get a better schedule to accomodate some more time with my wife, and more time on the boat.
Mac