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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => CP-16's => Topic started by: high tide is up on December 02, 2012, 05:17:36 PM

Title: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 02, 2012, 05:17:36 PM
Hello All,

Anyone have any photos regarding mainsheet and jib rigging??  Attaching boom etc.  Have questions regarding rigging but pics are worth a thousand words!!!  Thanks in advance....

Dawn
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: kickingbug1 on December 03, 2012, 08:59:22 AM
get ready for lots of professional help
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: skip1930 on December 03, 2012, 09:08:01 AM
I'm a CP-19 sailor but I figure the CP-16 is about the same. By the way the pictures of how it goes together came out of Bob F. Burgess's book Handbook of Trailer Sailing. And as stated elsewhere, in the Com Pac Owner's Handbook included with every new Com Pac delivered and available from Hutchins's factory. EVERYONE should have a copy and read it...Clears up a lot of questions that are asked here daily.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/1930fordroadster/Com%20Pac%2019%20Comfort%20and%20Joy/001.jpg)

The Com Pac 16 has only three cables, or stays: One to be attached to the front of the mast near the top which will be the forestay; and one on either side of the mast which will help support it. The Com Pac 19 and sizes up has an additional back stay, not found on the Com Pac 16.

Before the mast is stepped into the tabernacle, the lines used to pull the sails up to the top-o-mast must be run through the masthead pulley and block for the jib head sail.  

On top of the cabin is a formed sheet metal 'holder' for the mast called a tabernacle. The tabernacle has one long bolt running through it and should have a thumb tightening butterfly nut. Place the lay-ed down mast into this tabernacle and fish the long bolt through the holes in the tabernacle and through the mast. Loosly screw on the butterfly nut. At this point the mast can be walked up to a vertical position and pinned only if the side stays are pinned to the sides of the hull.

A helper will be needed to do two things. First the helper will hold a safety line that has been tied to the mast about five foot up or tied to the forestay. This allows the person walking the mast up to let go and still have the mast held in position. The helper will take up the slack in the safety line as the mast goes up. Usually the safety line is wrapped around something solid on the trailer, and if need be cleat-ed down. And second helper will pin the forestay to the bow of the ship while the 'walker' leans on the mast, pushing it foward for enough slack to insert the forestay pin.

The CP-16 lacks spreaders on the mast and, as stated above, has no back stay. Note that the two side stays are pinned to the chainplates that are behind the center line of an erected mast near the rub rail of the hull and being so it is not possible for the mast to 'fall forward' toward the bow of the ship.
And likewise the single forestay will not allow the mast to fall 'backwards' toward the stern.

If it appears that the forestay attachment point can not be pinned to the hull at the bow, than the two side stays need to be loosened to allow the mast to lean forward in order to line up the holes to insert this pin. The two side stays will then need to be tightened, pulling the mast backwards and vertical. All the rigging pins MUST be locked in place with cotter keys or circular cir-clips. These pins must be secured and not allowed to fall out.

The boom is to be installed into the wide part of the slot in the back of the mast and it is helpful to add to the ships inventory two 'sail stops'. Sail stops fit inside the mast slot and when hand tightened, jam the slot. One sail stop will be used to keep the sail slugs and thus the sail from falling out of the slot at the wide point of the mast slot. The other sail stop will prevent the boom from falling to the bottom of the mast's slot and possibly resting on top of the cabin top. Good for now. Once the main sail is hauled to the top-o-mast the two sail stops can be positioned for the best fit.

The front of the boom has a hinged gooseneck and it is this gooseneck that slips into the mast slot and usually lowered into the mast's slot and is stopped by the sail stop.
The back of the boom has a block and an attachment for the main sheet that is a line to let the boom out or pulled in to achieve the best shape of the main sail when sailing. This line should be rigged and it may take a few times and some cyphering to be correctly fitted. The main sheet will be clear and on top of the rudder's tiller. Not under the tiller.

Fig. 4 below is for the CP-16. Fig 5 & 6 are for the CP-19 and larger Com Pacs. To make the pic larger hold the Ctrl key down and tap the + key. Hold and tap - to shrink back down.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/1930fordroadster/Com%20Pac%2019%20Comfort%20and%20Joy/002.jpg)
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Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Spartan on December 03, 2012, 11:50:17 AM
I'll just add to Skip's and let you know those are the same diagrams in the Owners Handbook.  My opinion it's worth the investment in the Handbook of Trailer Sailing or the Com-PAC owners Handbook for reference. 
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Bob23 on December 03, 2012, 05:38:12 PM
'Cept the 19 has a backstay, no? Btw, I don't think Kick was inferring that Dawn needed professional help..hahaha!!!
Bob23
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 04, 2012, 05:34:31 AM
Ha HA HA Professional help maybe  :).....thank you everyone for the reply's!!!  I have been driveway sailing her for about 2 weeks and the gentelman that restored and sold me the boat can't come take me out or show me the ropes...no no no I mean lines (sailing talk geeez)  ;)till after Christmas sooooooooo I've been rigging and day dreaming and asking as many questions as I can because I CAN"T WAIT to try her out!!!!  Thanks guys!! You rock!!! Oh and Skip I Love the pic of your collie!!  We had to put ours to sleep this spring at the age of 14.  What awesome dogs they are!!!! Oh yeah and how about uploading pics on here.....still reading on how to do that....any "secrets"????
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: skip1930 on December 04, 2012, 09:40:46 AM
Dawn says,   "  Oh and Skip I Love the pic of your collie!!  We had to put ours to sleep this spring at the age of 14.  What awesome dogs they are!!!! Oh yeah and how about uploading pics on here.....still reading on how to do that....any "secrets"?  "

Tearfully we put our 12 year old collie, Logan to sleep on 14-September-2012. He was born 04-February-2000, 12 years, 8 mos. Logan could not stand anymore. I have pictures of Logan on my facebook and Photobucket pages referenced at the bottom of all my CPYOA posts. There is no finer dog than a collie. I had Logan since he was four mos old. His dad went back to Germany, mom and her four pups went to the dog pond on Friday, mom and the four pups were adapted out on Saturday. The pup who stayed and played with me the longest went home with me. Mom and one pup went to a new home and the other two pups found new homes as well. Best $40.00 I ever spent. He was always a gentle dog and a gentleman.

Up loading pics here is a joy that should not be missed. "So don't miss it if you can".
1~Get a Photobucket account or any other off site picture storage site. Scan from your printer and up load to a Photobucket album.
2~Along side or under all pics when selected in Photobucket album or albums are pop up 'codes'.
2~a. These are-->Email & IM, Direct Link, HTML code, HTML thumb code, IMG code, IMG thumb code.<--
3~Highlite and copy the Direct link. Now on the top of every CPYOA post are colorful icons above the smiley faces.
4~Second from right, going left to right, click on the 'Beach-Trees-Sky' looking icon.
4~a. It will say 'Insert Image' and it will be above smile's Wink and Cheesy.
5~When the icon is clicked on, a img img with [ ] around each will appear at the last place you put your cursor on the post.
5~a. You can put the courser anywhere you want to put the picture in your post before you click on this icon.
6~Take that copied code and park your cursor between the [  img  ]  *  [  img  ] and right click paste it where the * is shown here. Aim carefully.
7~The Direct link code for your picture will be shown and when you click on save the picture will be posted along with your post.
8~If the picture is a box with a red X or in the wrong spot on the post click on 'Modify' and you can cypher around till it's right.
9~Multiple pictures can be added, with or without spaces between them and text above or below the pics can be added. Just keep modifying.
10~I do a lot of spell checks and modifying, saving, modifying, savings...to get it just so.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/1930fordroadster/Logan%20Dog/Loganonthedock001.jpg)
Our son Logan
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Tim Gardner on December 04, 2012, 01:03:45 PM
I'll bet he was a G'boy.  I grew up with Collies.  Great dogs and loyal to the family.

TG
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Bob23 on December 04, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
And here we thought, Tim, that you were raised among wolves!!!!
Our 13 year old Siberian Husky the Fearless "Scarlett".
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Bob23_photo/scarlet4.jpg)
Dawn: You're gonna do just fine once you get out on the water. Driveway sailing is a lot harder; much more difficult to tack. Slower, too!
Bob23
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Tim Gardner on December 04, 2012, 04:38:07 PM
NOPE! No Wolves!  But I did take Latin in HS.
tg
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 04, 2012, 09:32:18 PM
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/ellie12342/Miss%20Ellie%20com%20pac%2016/013.jpg)
Ok here goes the ole college try for pics!!!! Wow what a way to do them...oh well I think I got it thanks to Skip!!!!
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y491/ellie12342/Miss%20Ellie%20com%20pac%2016/001.jpg)
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 04, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
quote author=Tim Gardner link=topic=5891.msg41670#msg41670 date=1354657087]
NOPE! No Wolves!  But I did take Latin in HS.
tg
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 04, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: Bob23 on December 04, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
And here we thought, Tim, that you were raised among wolves!!!!
Our 13 year old Siberian Husky the Fearless "Scarlett".
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Bob23_photo/scarlet4.jpg)
Dawn: You're gonna do just fine once you get out on the water. Driveway sailing is a lot harder; much more difficult to tack. Slower, too!
Bob23
Beautiful dog Bob...doesn't look 13!!!  I can't wait to hit the water...I just read Robert Burgess's book.  I live in the Keys so all this exploring is right outside my front door!!!!!
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Bob23 on December 05, 2012, 04:33:39 AM
Dawn:
   You did it! You beat my photo posting by almost 2 years! Congrats! The boat looks great...love the color and she's in really nice shape.
   The Keys...am I jealous? no way...I love snow and frozen fingers and wood fires and.....wah!!! While your'e sailing, I'll be shovelling! and hopefully cross country skiing.
Bob23
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 05, 2012, 05:28:25 AM
Thanks Bob !!!!!   Not an easy site to post pics to though I must admit.....
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: kickingbug1 on December 05, 2012, 02:51:41 PM
hey dawn if you ever sell your boat i know a couple in ohio who would love it  "island times" owners. your color matches that of their 19 footer. best of luck.
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Salty19 on December 05, 2012, 02:59:29 PM
LOl...Kick, don't tempt me!   I'm actually going back and forth between a Suncat and a 16 for a second boat.  No matter, no room to store it at the moment. Will be building a big mantown for storage next year to accomodate workshop/boat storage. 
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: MKBLK on December 05, 2012, 03:52:37 PM
Dawn,

Welcome to the CPYOA forum and the wonderful world of ComPac Yachts. Your boat looks absolutely beautiful (drool, drool). You will get plenty of good advice here on the forum. There are many knowledgeable CP owners just itchin to help out.

And a word of thanks to Skip for providing invaluable Photobucket help. Bob23 and I will hopefully have paid attention!

Dawn and Skip - Sorry about the loss of your dogs, they are truly man's best friend. Treat them right and they will always return the love 100 fold. Our golden, MacKenzie (who was really redden!) left us after 14 years.   :(  Never needed a leash (squirrels excepted). We now have Mollie who we adopted from an aging friend. She is the most loving yellow lab I've ever known.  :)

Marty K. PA
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: high tide is up on December 26, 2012, 07:14:59 PM
Ok all you guys that helped me thank you thank you thank you....I finally had someone take me out Christmas day!!!  WOW what an awesome experience to be able to sail my own boat!!!  I still have lots to learn and can't wait for the weekends to get out there (weather premiting) here in the sunny Fl Keys!!!!!  Thanks again and please, all of you keep up this AWESOME forum!!!!

No longer in the driveway,

Dawn
Title: Re: 1980 Com Pac 16
Post by: Bob23 on December 26, 2012, 07:20:41 PM
Let me be the first to congratulate you!!! Wish we were closer to sail with you and I'm so happy that your'e no longer in the driveway!! You are part of this forum...and we look forward to hearing about your adventures. I must confess to being a bit jealous as we are just entering winter here  in NJ...cold rain right now and my boat sits where? In the driveway! Wahhh!!!
I'm hoping to visit my daugher in Punta Gorda in March so I'll be hoping to stow away on someones Compac for a mid-winter sail!
Congrats again...any photos?
Bob23