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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => Sun Cats and Sunday Cats => Topic started by: frank on July 24, 2012, 09:46:26 PM

Title: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 24, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Rick and I had a GREAT week on the lake! good winds, great scenery, a good book and a box of wine. Doesn't get much better  ;)     
Pictures here     http://sailfar.net/forum/index.php/topic,3719.0.html
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: reedtg3 on July 25, 2012, 08:21:54 AM
Well done, Frank.  What kind of dinghy is that in the pictures?
Tom, CP 17 SC 377 "Cattail" Lake Harris, FL
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 25, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
They are inflatables we purchased at West Marine years back on our Buzzards Bay cruise. They store in a bag and actually paddle quite well. They were "on sale" for $149 at the time. We're both happy with the lil kayaks
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Rahn on July 25, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
I just got home from my annual 2 week cruise in the North Channel and would like to cruise Lake Champlain since I'm only 4 hours away. Where did you launch and can you recommend anchorages? Also, I like your dodgers and would appreciate more info on them.

Here's some pictures of my cruise. It was the first time I went solo.

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/2012%20North%20Channel-003.jpg)

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/2012%20North%20Channel-004.jpg)

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/2012%20North%20Channel-002.jpg)

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/2012%20North%20Channel-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 25, 2012, 08:58:28 PM
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/IMG_6666.jpg) This last cruise was our 2nd on Lake Champlain. There are a multitude of launch sites all along the lake on both the NY and Vermont sides....so the direction you are coming from will determine the best site. Google searchs turned up so many we were a bit overwhelmed and this trip settled on one near "Peru" NY. Good ramp and safe parking. We sailed the southern end in 07...more northerly this trip. The entire lake is beautiful with aboundant anchorages all over. A chart will show you the veriety depending on wind.

I've sailed the North Channel 3 cruises as well.....very nice area! You should start a new thread on your "North Channel cruise" and "Horizon Cat". That makes it easier for people searching for info to find it.  

I requested the dodger to my specs from Hutchins. It was the 1st one on a Suncat. I had them put a zipper on the aft end.....a "roll up" sunshade then zips on, ties mid way to boom....then clips on the boom gallows. On or off takes about a minute. Makes it a lot more livable in rain or hot sun.

Have fun out there.


trying to upload pics but "techno phobe" here can't seem to get it  ;-)
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 26, 2012, 05:45:07 PM
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/IMG_6734.jpg) Hurray!!  Just had a 14yr old show me how to post a pic   ;D         "underway"
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Rahn on July 26, 2012, 06:28:58 PM
Thanks for the picture. I always wondered about putting a dodger on my boat. Here is a picture of me pulling my Hobie Inflatable Kayak. This was in Fraser Bay in 2011.

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/Towing%20i12s.JPG)

This picture is in Lansdowne Channel which I believe was 2009 with my Suncat towing a Hobie Adventure

(http://rahnlawton.com/webpics/NC%20Cruise.jpg)

Some friends are planning to cruise Lake Champlain this August and I plan to join them, depending on when my kids need to return to college.
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 27, 2012, 07:08:09 AM
Wow!! That appears to be quite the engine on your suncat. Is it a 9.9??
Hope you make it to the lake....enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Rahn on July 27, 2012, 10:54:46 AM
That's what came with the Suncat when I bought it. It was a 9.9. Someone thought it looked like an oil derrick :) so I replaced it the next year with a Tohatsu 6hp which worked much better.

(http://www.rahnlawton.com/webpics/Legato%20tent-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 28, 2012, 07:40:04 AM
In the last pic of your suncat it kinda looks like you have an upgraded rudder? Was it an aftermarket?
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Shawn on July 28, 2012, 09:16:56 AM
Nice boom tent! Did you build that?

Shawn
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Rahn on July 28, 2012, 02:47:57 PM
The rudder system was an after market rudder/plate/tiller from Idasailor. Without a doubt it was my favorite upgrade for the Suncat, though the $600 for the system was steep.

(http://www.rahnlawton.com/webpics/Suncat%20Legato%20tent-1.jpg)

(http://www.rahnlawton.com/webpics/Suncat%20Legato%20tent-2.jpg)

http://www.ruddercraft.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=136 (http://www.ruddercraft.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=136)

The tent was made for my Suncat by John Manson who sails the Suncat Wanderer. He has made a few for people who requests it though I'm not sure if he still does. I liked it so much that I "made it work" on my Horizon Cat.

(http://www.rahnlawton.com/webpics/HCTent-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on July 28, 2012, 04:32:57 PM
That rudder certainly looks way more efficient! I'm such a clutz tho...I often forget to pull mine up at the ramp before hauling out...the tinka tink sound as it gets dragged up the ramp lets me know I "forgot again". I'm afraid I'd make a mess of a glass one in short order  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: Rahn on July 28, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
It's actually made of a plastic type material. You will gain a couple of degrees of upwind performance and better steering on all points. The system comes with a new tiller and the raising mechanism is really great. The rudder alone is a huge improvement over the stainless plate that comes with the boat. Here's a couple of videos. I would put one on my Horizon Cat if it were available though I am finally getting used to the wheel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk1XwXuAll0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk1XwXuAll0&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfevm-1ujQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfevm-1ujQ)
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: reedtg3 on August 03, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
I suspect that you guys acquired a wealth of knowledge on your cruise as to what one should have aboard, where to stow it, and what you could have done without.  Any tips you can share with us newbies would be most appreciated.
Tom, CP 17 SC 377 Cattail, Lake Harris, FL
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on August 04, 2012, 09:08:16 AM
That all depends on how long you'll be gone, what the normal weather is for that time of year, if you plan to anchor out all the time and how easy it is to get water or ice (if ya like cold beer) along the way  ;D
Rick and I typically go for a week or more and anchor out so are prepared for the entire time away. The biggy to me is to take the minimum needed and stowing it in such a way to require the least amount of "moving 3 things to get 1"
This is my usual kit....everyone is different
*boat items:12lb plow anchor-8ft chain-150ft rode    Your anchor is one of THEE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS!! DON'T CHEAP OUT
                     7lb danforth style-6ft chain-100ft rode
                     CHARTS!!!!!
                     hand held GPS
                     handheld VHF  (weather)
                     small battery/crank radio for tunes
                     flashlight
                     solar light (anchor light...I know...I know..not legal but we anchor in shallow)
                     life jackets
                     binoculers
                     extra lines etc and various misc items.

Camping items:
                    Butane single burner cook stove (love them)   Small BBQ
                    minimal dishs,pots/pans/glass's,utensils and a good insulated coffee mug
                    pillow/sleeping bag and 1 blanket. Blanket alone if warm-over bag if cold
                    small plastic dish pan...handy for many things

             
         
Title: Re: Lake Champlain cruise....2 suncats
Post by: frank on August 04, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
    Clothing:
    Keep it simple...less "stuff" aboard. I take pair of jeans,3 T's and 2 nylon shorts. I wash the shorts n T's along the way with dishsoap. Heh...you're camping :o
    One heavy sweat shirt for evenings or cool days if needed and a foul weather jacket. It's amazing how warm at T with a sweat shirt and rain jacket over is on a cool windy day.   

  Food....up to you and will depend on "ice...or no ice"  I've gone both ways and "no ice" is simpler.    Boxed wine and "bilge beer" ain't too bad. Take more "snacks" than ya think. (hiking and long runs under sail)

Misc rambles:  I prefer buying a case of drinking water bottles for my water. They are so easy to stow and fill in small areas.
                        Several juice boxs are great too.
                        Keep heavy items low and central when possible
                        Keep it simple. Less clutter is better. Less to move to get items is better yet.
         
  Take pictures    Have fun!!!!!