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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => CP-23's => Topic started by: Greene on February 04, 2012, 04:12:33 PM

Poll
Question: Any side bets on the race of the year?
Option 1: Blazin' Bob by a mile votes: 0
Option 2: Mike forgets to bring the oars votes: 0
Option 3: Both competitors row in circles votes: 0
Option 4:  Mike and Bob stay in the bar votes: 3
Option 5: Bob chickens out and stays home votes: 2
Option 6: Bob cheats with an outboard votes: 0
Title: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 04, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
Wrinkles is our new 1988 CP 23/3.   Here are a some pics.  She is also the boat pictured on the  23/3 brochure.

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/e319dcd8.jpg)

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/4c0c1e6a.jpg)

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/a62ebd6a.jpg)

Roller fuller, cockpit cushions, bimini, vang, etc..  Very original i.e. no owner modifications. Nice little cruiser.

More later.  Gotta go get the trailer prepped.

Mike

Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 04, 2012, 04:39:24 PM
I AM SOOOOOO JEALOUS!!!!! Welcome, sister!
Koinonia
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Billy on February 04, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Tim Gardner on February 05, 2012, 01:02:43 PM
NAAWWIIIIIIICE  BOAT, DUUUUUUDE!

tg
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: wes on February 08, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Mike - that is a beautiful boat. Congratulations! I am really sorry to lose you from the ranks of 19ers though. I have always enjoyed and learned a lot from your posts. Very inspiring as I renovated my own 1988 CP19.

Speaking of which, it is amazing how similar your 19 is to mine - they look identical. Yet mine is supposedly a 19/3. My hull number is 453, so the model must have changed that year. Wonder what the difference is?

Hope you have no regrets. I tracked down one of the previous owners of Bella, who told me he traded up to a larger boat but that the 19 "was always my wife's favorite boat." He sounded a little rueful.

Wes
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Salty19 on February 08, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
Congrats!  Very, very  nice CP23 and love the boat name.  She sure went to a good home. 

Fix her up nice so when you get a Dana you can sell me your 23 :) Might even keep the name.

I might have the brochure with your boat on it too!  Do you need one?
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 08, 2012, 08:34:39 PM
Thanks Salty.  I am driving down this weekend to finalize the inspection and take her out for a sail or two.  I'll see if the owner has a brochure already.  If they don't, I'll take you up on that offer.  A sailing buddy was dumb enough to agree to riding along with me to Florida, so the trip should be fun. 

In about 2 years we will be looking for that Dana 24, but we have a lot to learn before we take that step.

Mike and Brenda
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: jthatcher on February 08, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
great looking boat.. looking forward to seeing what improvements you add..  I am sure that some of them will be an inspiration for the rest of us!    have fun on the sail this weekend..   where are you located?  jt
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 09, 2012, 03:55:23 PM
We currently live near Madison, WI.  In about 18 to 24 months we plan to move down to our condo in Orange Beach / Gulf Shores.

There is at least one other 23 in our area,  but we have never met the owner.

Mike and Brenda
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: kickingbug1 on February 09, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
   that is a dandy. if that were mine i would have a place to sleep when i piss off sarah.
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 09, 2012, 08:02:26 PM
Quote from: kickingbug1 on February 09, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
   that is a dandy. if that were mine i would have a place to sleep when i piss off sarah.

So, pretty much sleeping out there every night?

Mike
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 11, 2012, 07:26:42 PM
Just got a call from Mike.  He made it to Florida and the boat is everything represented and more!!  Unfortunately our cold wind and weather followed him down.  Doesn't sound like he will pull it out until Monday.  Won't leave much time for sailing down there. Then he will head home with my Valentine's present!  Not every girl gets a new sailboat for Valentine's Day!

Brenda
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 12, 2012, 05:26:44 AM
Really enjoy your "Wrinkles" blog and great shots of the new baby. Looking forward to seeing how Mike is gonna personalize your new yacht.
bob23
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: bob lamb on February 12, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
Welcome to our world!  Great looking 23 you found.  I've seen it at our marina.  If Mike needs any help from an old retired guy in Dunedin, shoot me a note.

Bob
CP23d Pilothouse
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: kickingbug1 on February 12, 2012, 05:11:19 PM
    just thought of something mike, didnt i hear once that 23s sail like 16s? if that is so than b better get ready to heal. (thats what is so exiting about sailing to my mind. one pretty boat that. take care bro
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Shawn on February 12, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
" She is also the boat pictured on the  23/3 brochure. "

I have the 23/3 brochure as a PDF if you want it, just send me your email. The interior shots of the 23/3 brochure are pictures of a 23/2 model though.

Shawn
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 15, 2012, 11:09:52 AM
Shawn - The PDF would be nice, as it would be a good addition to the binder we make for brochures, parts info, reviews, etc. on each boat. 

The good news is the the trailer pulled nicely all the way down to Dunedin, Florida.  The boat pulled out of the marina ramp (at near high tide) and settled onto the trailer pretty easily.  We adjusted the bunks a little and moved the winch chock pedestal aft on the trailer to meet the bow of the boat.  Other than snapping the strap on the winch, the trailer prep seems to have been successful.  I'll be changing the winch over to steel cable now.

We dropped the mast and secured everything for the LONG, butt numbing haul home.  My friend Jim and I were thrilled with how well the 4Runner pulled the trailer.  The trailer set up has just a touch too much weight on the hitch which I will adjust the first time we dunk her in Wisconsin.  The trailer towed nicely at about 62 to 65 mph and the trailer brakes worked wonderfully. 

1300 miles is a long way to pull a boat, but it was still a fun trip.  I'll write up a little detail after I get the boat covered up for the snowfall we are supposed to get later today.

Mike
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: brackish on February 15, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
Glad you made it back safe and sound with no unplanned "adventures".  Now let's get crackin on those nice mods that I can copy.:)
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 15, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
A few people to thank for helping me get our 23 home. 

Brackish -  Thank you for taking the time to measure your trailer and send me the numbers.  It made the trailer set up much easier.

Bob Lamb - Thanks for stopping by at just the right time to say hello at the Dunedin Marina and running home for that sorely needed 10 mm socket.   Nice to get a chance to meet you and talk shop.  Com-Pac people always seem to be nice people.

My sailing buddy Jim - Thanks so much for being crazy enough to drive along with me for a total of 44 hours to help me tow her home.  It would have been a serious grind without your assistance, humor and friendship.

The trailer I bought and converted to fit the 23 worked fantastic.  With the dimensions Brackish supplied we pulled the boat out from the marina ramp and left her right where she first settled.  We adjusted the bunk heights a little and moved the winch chock aft a little, but just minor adjustments.  I will be lengthening the bunks and adding a fourth support closer to the bow end due to the location of the trailer cross members. 

Dropping the mast manually went fine, but it really should be done with some kind of gin pole.  I'll be building that system this spring.

The 4Runner with a V6 towed the weight just fine with the overdrive turned off.  The trailer has a brand new brake system which worked extremely well.  I can't imagine towing that much boat without brakes.  Trailering 1300 miles really wasn't too bad, just a lot of time to be in a car.

Wrinkles is safely home and covered with a tarp for the balance of winter. 

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/100_0065.jpg)

Thanks All,

Mike
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: kickingbug1 on February 15, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
    tell you what ill trade my 16 for your 19 then you will have a "dink" that you can sail
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 15, 2012, 08:58:57 PM
Beautiful, Mike. I love the oval bronze portlights. Did someone drop something on your bow rail? Easily bent back into shape, I'd imagine. Congratulations.
Bob23
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 15, 2012, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: Bob23 on February 15, 2012, 08:58:57 PM
Beautiful, Mike. I love the oval bronze portlights. Did someone drop something on your bow rail? Easily bent back into shape, I'd imagine. Congratulations.
Bob23

The owner said they had it pressed down because it interfered with the sail on a run.  I had the same issue with the 19, but it didn't bother me enough to change anything.  I'm curious if it was just the way this particular sail was built or if it is a common issue.  If I go to a larger headsail then maybe it could be made to clear the pulpit.

Mie
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Salty19 on February 15, 2012, 10:05:24 PM
Mike and Brenda, (and Wrinkles too!

Very nice CP23!   She has no doubt gone to a great home. She looks huge compared to the 19!  Are you sure there is not the bars, dance floor, AND a theater her?? :)

Enjoy her and take good care of her!  Oh, and when you guys race at Carlyle, you absolutely must win the race again, or you'll never hear the end of it from the 16 guys.  For real win this time :) 



Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 17, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
How about a name / logo like this?  We're just messing around with a photoshop type software to "erase" the original name and put Wrinkles on her.

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/7859bf3b.jpg)

Mike and Brenda
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Tim Gardner on February 17, 2012, 11:14:22 PM
Personally, Mike, I think, given the tradition of naming a sweet girl like this after your wife, that Admiral B might take a little bit of an exception to that particular name.

I know, you don't think AB has any wrinkles, but what if others think "Man can you believe he talks about Brenda that way?"

Or maybe you just think of AB as your personal baggywrinkle, a sort of protection from the world's troubles.  Protection from fretting damage, comfort from a hard stay, a soft wonderful thing to  er, uuuh , I  Uh,  well  -  nevermind.

I like the graphic.  No offense meant.  Oh - HI Brenda!

TG
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 18, 2012, 10:00:58 AM
Tim - I just laughed at your post.  Our last boat, the CP-19 was named after me, and now she is up sale.  At least I am not so easily traded in.   After we named her we saw several variations of "Miss B" out there.  Now you have to admit, "Wrinkles" is a name we won't run into too often.  Here's how we came up with the name:  We started sailing when Mike turned 50 (my age is not relevant here hehe), so the wrinkles were already appearing.  In addition, we tend to sail in a very relaxed manner - we don't worry too much about perfectly set sails.  A couple of wrinkles in our sails - no problem.  

When we started documenting our sailing adventures, we wanted a name for our blog that was unique and represented our age and style. So that's where the name for our blog Wrinkles in our Sails, came from.  It only seemed right to name our boat "Wrinkles".

And for those of you who are curious about what Mike will name the dinghy --- I just laughed when he told me it could be named "Squint".

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Com-Pac%2023/c3547ea7-1.jpg)

Admiral (aging perfectly) Brenda
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 18, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
C'mon, Mike:
  Get those fixed oarlocks outa there and let's see some feathering! Maybe a Piantedosi sliding seat rig and a pair of 9 1/2' oars would increase the speed? If I make it to CLR 2012, I'll race ya!
  Hmm... I've never had the bow rail interefere with my genoa on any point of sail. It exits the foil on the furler just above the rail. Hmmm....
bob23
   
 
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: jthatcher on February 18, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
hello mike and brenda..  love the name and the logic behind it as well..   so what if we are not making every last drop of speed - isn't it a luxury to just be on the water?   you have  a great looking boat there..  i imagine that you just can't wait for spring to arrive!   it will be great to read about your first trip on wrinkles...   jt
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 19, 2012, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: Bob23 on February 18, 2012, 07:06:04 PM
C'mon, Mike:
  Get those fixed oarlocks outa there and let's see some feathering! Maybe a Piantedosi sliding seat rig and a pair of 9 1/2' oars would increase the speed? If I make it to CLR 2012, I'll race ya!
  Hmm... I've never had the bow rail interefere with my genoa on any point of sail. It exits the foil on the furler just above the rail. Hmmm....
bob23
   
 

Bob - I row just like I sail.  I get there when I get there. 

After this picture was taken I actually added a second set of fixed oar locks about 12" aft of the first set.  I had found that the first set worked really well when B was in the dinghy with me, but when I was alone they were too close to where I needed to sit for trim.  Being moveable ballast is one of my many attributes.

The race sounds like a good idea.  You wager one bottle of Drambuie and (if I should unthinkably lose) I'll buy you one bottle of Pabst and a shot of Jose Cuervo Reserva de la Familia. ( See, I pay attention to your posts) Use of boat hooks, ramming and foul language will be encouraged.   

Mike (rows like a demon) Greene
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 19, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
You're on! Sounds like whoever comes in first, we all win!
bob23
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 19, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
You all are my witnesses.  Bob has accepted my terms for a rowing race at the CLR 2012 .  If he fails to show up, I win!  Yeah me - free Drambuie!

Mike
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Salty19 on February 20, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
Mike and Brenda,

LOVE the boat name but the graphic doesn't quite do it for me.  Just an opinion.

Check out boatus.com for font ideas, maybe there is a cool wrinkly font what would look good??

Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: kickingbug1 on February 20, 2012, 08:13:25 PM
    sarah and i will be waiting for you at the finish
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 22, 2012, 07:36:54 PM
Not so fast. Take a good look at the bow of this boat. It'll be the last time you see it. Oh, yeah...I can just taste that cold Pabst going down as I wait for YOU at the finish! And what will be sweeter? The Tequilla or the victory?
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/Bob23_photo/Rowing/PacingtheCage.jpg)
Bob23
I guess I gotta come all the way out there this year! Price-o'-gas be damned!
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on February 23, 2012, 07:48:43 AM
Talkin' boat smack now.  What you don't realize is that my dinghy "Squint" has the new cutting edge hull shape of a flat piece of plywood with a slight upward bend at the bow.  That along with my finely crafted oars which are REAL 2 x 4's cut and sanded to perfection in under 1 hour including fiberglassing time.  So, shake in your boots Mr. Fancy dinghy.

High noon at Carlyle Lake!

Mike
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 23, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
Ooooo...I'm shakin' in my Converse! Hey wait: You didn't tell my your oars were made from Real 2x4's. That's not fair...all I have a 9 1/2' spruce oars.
High noon it is! I can just taste that Tequila now. Good thing...I just ran out last week.
Bob23
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Salty19 on February 23, 2012, 11:51:16 PM
Dream Team Greene vs.  Noisy Joisey!  Place your bets!!!

My money is on Noisy Joisey...that boats looks quick.  Will there be a handicap in this race? Besides the obvious ones :mrgreen:    :)
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Tim Gardner on February 24, 2012, 06:05:56 AM
Bob,  Since you have posted the picture of your craft, as has Mike,  I propose you row them EXACTLY as they are pictured.  That  is only fair, considering all the smack talk, bragging  and spruce boorishness.  'Should have you going in circles with your starboard oar backwards.

TG
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Bob23 on February 24, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
True, Tim, it is harder that way. But I want to give MG a fighting chance!
bob23
(Maybe I should row my Walker Bay 8 instead. Truthfully, if the economy gets any worse, I may compete in a kids blow-up pool!)
Title: Re:1987 23 11 excellent condition info
Post by: Jimmy on April 12, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
Hi how r u, i am new to this site! I have an 87 23 11 still has orginal plastic rap on stove, sink has never been used inside in mint orginal condition has the small round port holes. Has been motored more than sailed. Teak has been well maintained. Not going to find a boat like this in any better orginal condition. Only thing changed was the brown stripe  changed to a hunter green color and matching main sail cover. While being stored sails where removed and stored inside and boat was covered completely. Has 8hp suzuki 2 stroke well maintained through the years and still runs like a champ. Has fixed keel and has galvinised trailer as well maintained as the boat.  Also has never been in salt water, started out on Smith Mountain Lake. I bought it new there. Don"t have any pics yet in process of moving it. Have someone very intersted in buying not sure If I  want to sell it, alot of sentimental value attached. Just curious to see what it might be worth. I cant find any boats like this one any where to compare it to even called com pac factory to get help just got run around. Wondering if  you might know or if anyone would know where to look to find out this info.
                         
                                                                                                              Thanks
                                                                                                                Jimmy 
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Tim Gardner on April 13, 2012, 05:58:47 AM
Jimmy,

Your boat is worth between 5400 & 6200 plus 1000 for the trailer if it is in very good condition.  Is the boat still at SML? If so I could take a look and give you an exact value.

TG
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Jimmy on April 13, 2012, 06:51:57 AM
Ha thanks for the info. No not on sml yet getting ready to move up there as soon as I sell a house. Also have a 25ft catilina late 70s model Im putting back together now. Also not sure if i wanted both up there guess I wil now.  So at that price I will more than likely keep it! Has yours been up there? Nice Lake for sailing. Love it up there!


             Thanks
              Jimmy 
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on April 20, 2012, 05:19:56 PM
Make sure to read through this thread and vote.
Title: Re: Our 1988 CP 23/3
Post by: Greene on April 21, 2012, 09:06:28 AM
Quote from: Salty19 on February 23, 2012, 11:51:16 PM
Dream Team Greene vs.  Noisy Joisey!  Place your bets!!!

My money is on Noisy Joisey...that boats looks quick.  Will there be a handicap in this race? Besides the obvious ones :mrgreen:    :)

Paaaahleeeeze!  Bob may be the obvious underdog in equipment and ability in this match race, but I'm not spotting him a handicap. 

By the Mr. Salty, thanks for the faith and support.  You've never met Bob and you back him in this race.  I take back all the nice things I've said about you.  Wait a minute.   I've  never said anything nice about you.  Never mind.

Mike