I was at a seafood festival at the Deltaville Maritime Museum in VA last Saturday, and they had on display and for sale a donated (who would give this away!?!?!) bright red 2005 Horizon Cat on a trailer, with diesel, instruments, super nice chartplotter,etc for 26K. The boat had been under shrink wrap for the last couple of years and showed "as new". It really was clean enough to eat off of. The brightwork was excellent and I did not see a ding anywhere. Truly nice. I talked to the boat shop director, Chuck McGhinnis, who is in charge of selling the boat, and he can be reached at 804-776-7200 at the museum, or 804-694-6449 Cell.
There was a red Horizon Cat for sale on ebay awhile ago from that area that was in rough shape and went very cheap. It looked like it had sunk (waterline in the cabin). I wonder if this is the same boat restored.
Not the same boat.
Here's the boat:
(http://deltavillemuseum.com/images/forsale/2005_Com-Pac.jpg)
Nice - but 29K?
When I looked at this boat, it showed basically as new, with some very nice electronic options. The high end chartplotter was worth more than I've paid for some of my boats. The asking price of 26K, as quoted by the boat shop director, seemed reasonable enough to me, as this same package new, from a dealer or from the factory would be considerably more money. My feeling was that the price had some wiggle room for serious offers- I'd guess that low twenties would get the boat at your dock. There is a 2010- red also- down in FL without trailer and no electronics or options for $26,675. That has been on the market for several months, at least, and is something of a distress sale. Most of the HC's I see in brokerage run the gamut from the mid 20's on up, unless they are an outboard model. The best deal I've seen was on this forum- an un-trailered HC with diesel for $13.5- and the poor guy couldn't get a bite. If I didn't have the CP27, I'd buy either of these boats..........the one for 26 or the one for 13.5. You get what you pay for.........just sayin'.
Pricing and Options
Boat Base Price: $31,495
Westerbeke 12hp diesel:
2 cyl fresh water cooled $11,800
Custom Hull Color:
Options include dark blue, dark green, or burgundy. $1,395
Transom boarding ladder:
Folding stainless steel. $299
Bulkhead mount compass $352
Fabric interior cushions in lieu of vinyl $350
Privacy curtain $106
Sail cover:
Selected colors. $462
Hatch screen $46
Teak Cockpit Grate $695
12 amp battery charger $414
12 volt outlet $98
Custom Galvanized Trailer $3,995
Spare tire:
Mounted on trailer $224
Cradle:
For shipping and storage $574
Epoxy Anti-Fouling Coat $823
Bimini Top:
Aluminum frame, selected colors. $599
Cockpit Cushions:
2" PVC foam $814
Hatch Board Bag:
Sunbrella canvas $125
Marine battery:
RECOMMEDED WITH DIESEL OPT $153
2nd Battery w/switch and cables:
RECOMMEDED WITH DIESEL OPT $266
Racor fuel filter:
RECOMMEDED WITH DIESEL OPT $246
Electric bilge pump:
RECOMMEDED WITH DIESEL OPT $208
Hull and Deck
Add it up and then add an autopilot and chartplotter- this boat had virtually every available option, plus some. Not a cradle, though. That $26 K sure looks good to this sailor. Peter G S/V Afternoon Beagle
We have driven past this craft several times. If I didn't have a 26rk on my lift, I'd be stopping and shopping. It really shows from a distance as new.
Hey Doug- are you located down in Deltaville? How do you like your 26RK? I was looking at one this morning down at Cedar Creek Marina off Barnegat Bay- very cool boat. Peter G
That looks like a great deal on a very sweet boat (50% off). 55K new w/ options, 26K never used.
All I can say is it's a good thing Island Time is treating us well else a trip to VA would be in order!
Would have some susplainin' to do though!!
Even swap?? Where do I sign? (yeah, right!)
Quote from: peterg on October 23, 2011, 08:59:39 PM
Hey Doug- are you located down in Deltaville? How do you like your 26RK? I was looking at one this morning down at Cedar Creek Marina off Barnegat Bay- very cool boat. Peter G
Peter -- We are in Deltaville part time (weekends). On weekdays we are in Alexandria. We are really happy withe the 26RK of course one of the reasons we selected it was we have a slim slip on thin water so it was a great fit. The 26 much of the time feels like a large craft, but with a fresh breeze, it seems much more like a dingy with a centerboard (which is what the bottom resembles).
doug
Hi,
I am the fortunate fellow that bought that HC. Purchased it last Oct. I sail it out of Dogue Creek near Mt. Vernon Va.
It is a real nice boat. I have added a bimini and am looking forward to doing some overnighting on the Potomac.
The previous owner named the red hulled cat after the Welsh national flag.... Y dDraig Goch. Which also means the red dragon. Down in Deltaville they just called it the little dragon...that name sticks.
Steve Pretzman
Springfield
Steve, that is one pretty HC you bought down in DVL. I wish I had my CP27 sold back then, because I would have bought her out from under ya!! Best of luck with a beautiful boat, and use her up in good health!!
PeterG
(boatless in Barnegat Bay)
Yes, after many years of small boat sailing, I am now learning to handle a Gaff Rig.
Thinking of adding lazy jacks. Does anybody have experience with lazy jacks on a HC?
I primarily keep the boat in a (shallow) marina and would like to be able to more easily single hand the boat. That sure is a pile of sail that lands in your lap....
Also I need a new sail cover, does anybody have a recommendation for a source for replacements sailcover?
Thanks,
Steve
2005 HC
Springfield Va
Whatever you do for Lazy Jacks, keep it simple. You don't have to have a complicated, hardware/line intensive system that is permanently installed by drilling numerous holes in the mast/boom which chafes the hell out of your mainsail ALL THE TIME when sailing.
I have a SIMPLE, NO HARDWARE, CHEAP, EFFECTIVE Lazy Jack set up on my Sun Cat.
If interested, send me a personal message with e-mail address.
capt_nemo
Steve- Mack Sails in FL makes an excellent system that is a combo lazy jack/self storing sailbag set-up. I've used it on my Orion and last two Compacs and it is fairly simple and extremely convenient to use. They are also a real great outfit to deal with and they stand by their products. I had a ten year old MackPack and they rebuilt it for me for fifty bucks! I like the idea of self-storing- not a single handed fan of grappling with large sails to put on sail ties, then wresting with a seperate cover. Doyle also sells a similar system called a StackPack. Check it out.
Hi, I talked to Travis down at Mac Sails and they were really slow at answering my questions...Sounds like the MacPac would cost about $950. So,
I think I will just try the Capt. Nemo approach and do a simple rig to see if I like it. I have slung a two leg per side loop that just goes up to the top of the mast and drops back down on the other side. Pretty simple. Two lengths of line, two stainless steel rings and two hasps at the top. It will be interesting to see if two legs per side is enough to keep the sail from bagging around. I will probably add some cleats to keep the lines from sliding forward on the boom. Hopefully, this will be useful. I would like to keep it simple so that I can just bring it forward to the mast when dropping the mast.
But, I still need to get a fresh sail cover.
stpretz,
That sounds like a good approach!
Remember, don't strive for perfection - even the most complex, expensive, hardware intensive systems don't do a PERFECT job of controlling the entire mainsail (and gaff) when dousing.
If your SIMPLE SYSTEM does a reasonable job of capturing MOST of the mainsail and that pesky gaff, keeping all from spilling into the cockpit, or worse yet falling into the water, be satisfied. Then you can take your own sweet time to secure all with sail ties.
Have fun!
capt_nemo
I did a simple line from the halyard head. It seems to work real well first time out. But then I had my best hand onboard. My 19 year old college sophomore daughter who is ready for everything...
Anyway, just wondering if you ran your lazy jacks from the halyard point or went up to the top at the gaff haul? I am thinking that may work better. Kinda want to have a less steep angle for the legs, cause there is a whole lot of sail out there at the end of the gaff.
Hmmm...think I'll give it a try.
Wifey and I went to Baltimore inner harbor (on land, dang it) and saw the tall ships...great place great views great boats great weather....great day.
Steve
y dDraig Goch
Horizon Cat
stpretz,
In the photo below there are two stainless bails up on the mast. One at the top (masthead) to which the peak halyard is attached (tied with bowline) and one about 3 to 4 feet below where a block is attached that turns the peak halyard for its run down the mast. My lazy jacks are attached to the lower bail, 3 to 4 feet below the mast head.
(http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/CPYOA/com-pac%20sun%20cat%20pics/jib-5.jpg)
I attached a small block for my topping lift to the masthead bail which takes the topping lift coming from the end of the boom and turns it for its downward run to the base of the mast and thence to the end of the cabintop. I like having a topping lift adjustable from the cockpit.
capt_nemo