Just a heads up for Bob23 and the rest of you proud 23 owners. Pretty accurate review from my point of view. Didn't recognize any of our names in there ??? Best, rip
Is it out? their web site is not showing it currently on the news stand, showing July/ August.
Also wonder how many CPYOA members participated in the survey? I did.
Hi Brackish, No. 71, Sept Oct Issue. I get it on line a bit early. I didn't notice anybody's name I was familiar with, but I really wasn't looking for that. They probably know how prejudiced we all are! Great people in that outfit.
HI RIP & BRACKISH,
PRUDENCE - THE CP 23 FEATURED IN THE SCA ARTICLE IS MY BOAT.
I AM A FAITHFUL FELLOW MEMBER OF CPYOA, JUST A BIT QUIET.
SCA DID A THOROUGH REVIEW, WE SAILED FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND JOSH WENT CAREFULLY OVER THE BOAT, MEASURING, PHOTOGRAPHING, ASKING QUESTIONS.
HE EVEN NOTED MY SYSTEM OF USING A LANYARD TO KEEP THE COCKPIT LAZZARETTE HATCH COVERS SECURE.
I HAVE REALLY BEEN ENJOYING THIS BOAT. I HAD EXPECTED THE CP23 TO BE A BIT SLOW, NOT SO . SHE IS RESPONSIVE, YET STABLE. A NICE BALANCE.
WE WERE HITTING 5.7 KNOTS (GPS) WITH A LIGHT BREEZE THE DAY OF THE REVIEW. THE SAILS ARE THE ORIGINAL SAILS AND DO NEED TO BE REPLACED.
I THINK THE JIB IS 110.
LON
PRUDENCE #333
Quote from: rip on July 29, 2011, 04:42:47 PM
Just a heads up for Bob23 and the rest of you proud 23 owners. Pretty accurate review from my point of view. Didn't recognize any of our names in there ??? Best, rip
I'll have to pick up that issue. Welcome, Lon. You must be proud to have your baby reviewed in SCA. Please feel free to be not so quiet!
I've also found my 1985 23/2 has hit 5.8 knts in light to medium wind. I've had her up to 6.2 in heavier air. I love the big boat feel and the way she levels herself out after getting hit with a gust. A very well behaved young lady, even if I do say so myself.
Bob23
I thought the review was a bit harsh. There was a lot of talk about the boat not being a racer and a bit slow, but as the pointed out, it has a lower PHRF than a Catalina 22 (not that a C22 is much of a racer, but the CP23 isn't slow compared to other cruisers of the same size/design). They were also pretty critical of the slide-away stove and sink. When I first bought mine I thought the same thing, but after using it for a year, I like the slide-away stove and can live with the sink. They comment that the stove and sink could be removed and the necessary cooking and wash up could be done in the cockpit. I cruised for 2 years on a CP16 cooking on a butane stove that slid around on the cockpit sole and washing dishes over the side. Cooking on a solid mounted stove and being able to brush my teeth without leaving the cabin on cold mornings has been a significant improvement over cockpit camping and I'll trade 4 full size bunks for a little bit of hassle with the sink any time.
I thought their review of the CP16 was more balanced and accurate than the 23.
I would love to read it. I guess it is not available unless you are a subscriber. Checked the major bookstores in my area, they don't carry it. I keep going to the website to try to buy the issue and it is not yet available.
"Didn't recognize any of our names in there"
CurtisV was quoted quite a bit in the article. Speaking of which... Curtis... for propane storage use 6" stainless hose clamps to clamp 4" PVC pipe onto the swim ladder on the side near the rudder. Put a 4" to 3" adapter on the bottom (as a vent if a tan lets go) and either an adapter for a screw in plate on top or just a loose fit cover. Depending upon how long you cut the PVC you can fit 2 or 3 propane tanks into the PVC propane locker.
This keeps the tanks easily within reach of the grill but also keeps them external to the boat so the propane will vent harmlessly to open space. Over a season the tanks will get a little rusty. Extra holes along the side of the PVC for ventilation might help with that but I haven't bothered yet.
You can see it in this pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39387871@N06/5675578027/sizes/o/in/set-72157624122593550/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39387871@N06/5675578027/sizes/o/in/set-72157624122593550/)
Shawn
I have been sailing for way past fifty years and now have to admit I have no idea what "SCA" is. I assume a magazine but need more info to access the site.
I have no idea what SCA is, other than being a magazine.
JC
Quote from: jcatkeson on August 11, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
I have no idea what SCA is, other than being a magazine.
JC
You've been missing out!
Small Craft Advisor http://smallcraftadvisor.com/ (http://smallcraftadvisor.com/)
Lon,
Just looking at the pics again.... did you add the drain in the bow for the anchor locker? If so any details on how you did that?
Thanks,
Shawn
Quote from: Shawn on August 10, 2011, 10:40:20 PM
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You can see it in this pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39387871@N06/5675578027/sizes/o/in/set-72157624122593550/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39387871@N06/5675578027/sizes/o/in/set-72157624122593550/)
Shawn
Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.
Sorry about that, just changed permissions on that one.
Thanks,
Shawn
HI SHAWN,
I WOULD LIKE AN ANCHOR LOCKER DRAIN, BUT THAT IS NOT IT. THE THRU HULL YOU SAW IS FOR THE GREY WATER TANK.
I PUT THE SMALL ROUND SINK THAT CAME WITH THE BOAT NEXT TO THE PORTA POTTI FOR HAND WASHING. THE TANK BELOW IT IS PLUMBED TO THE THRU HULL.
CONSIDERED RUNNING IT AFT WITH THE OTHER THRU HULLS, BUT THAT WOULD BE SUCH A LONG RUN.
I MIGHT PLUMB AN ANCHOR LOCKER DRAIN TO THE SINK GREY WATER TANK, THEN IT WOULD BE PUMPED WITH THE GREY WATER.
SO FAR IT HAS OT BEEN NEEDED.
LON
Quote from: Shawn on August 12, 2011, 10:24:45 AM
Lon,
Just looking at the pics again.... did you add the drain in the bow for the anchor locker? If so any details on how you did that?
Thanks,
Shawn
It's nice to see Com-pacs represented so frequently these days in SCA. Their ruggedness, good looks and seaworthy designs are quiet appropriate for the publication. I've noticed a bias towards Potters but not so much lately. Now that Josh has a CP16, we should expect more
Zimco-You should most certainly be proud of seeing your boat in print! How cool is that!!!
Also a nice CP16 from Washington is pictured as well. Anyone here?
Brackish--You are quoted in the article in addition to CurtisV. Arion will be proud :)
Oh..here is the pic you cannot open..
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5675578027_78d66382de_b.jpg)
HI SALTY19,
+THE COM-PAC BOATS ARE RARE IN PUGET SOUND. I HAVE THE ONLY CP 23 IN THE PORT TOWNSEND BOAT HAVEN. THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL
CP 19 RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY BOAT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY COM-PAC BOATS I HAVE SEEN AROUND HERE.
THAT IS NO DOUBT WHY PRUDENCE WAS PICKED FOR THE REVIEW.
GLAD TO HELP SMALL CRAFT ADVISOR, IT IS A GREAT BOATING MAGAZINE.
LON
CP23 -- PRUDENCE
Quote from: Salty19 on August 12, 2011, 10:58:24 PM
It's nice to see Com-pacs represented so frequently these days in SCA. Their ruggedness, good looks and seaworthy designs are quiet appropriate for the publication. I've noticed a bias towards Potters but not so much lately. Now that Josh has a CP16, we should expect more
Zimco-You should most certainly be proud of seeing your boat in print! How cool is that!!!
Also a nice CP16 from Washington is pictured as well. Anyone here?
Brackish--You are quoted in the article in addition to CurtisV. Arion will be proud :)
Oh..here is the pic you cannot open..
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5675578027_78d66382de_b.jpg)
Despite over fifty years of sailing I have never heard of "SCA." Can someone decipher this for me?
Conner
Quote from: jcatkeson on August 15, 2011, 12:32:45 PM
Despite over fifty years of sailing I have never heard of "SCA." Can someone decipher this for me?
Conner
"Small Craft Advisor", It is a magazine devoted to small sail boats. http://smallcraftadvisor.com/
I finally got a copy and was able to read the review. I thought it was a fairly balanced review. One surprise was the quote about needing 2-3 people and 3-4 hours to either launch or retrieve and pack for towing. Certainly it is not easy, but I can do it by myself in two hours or less.
Arion was thrilled. Writer mistakenly listed her year as 2009 rather than 2005.:)