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General Com-Pac and Sailing Related Discussions => Com-Pac Sailors Lounge => Topic started by: Keith on June 16, 2011, 01:06:31 PM

Title: Hello all
Post by: Keith on June 16, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
New to this forum, but used to visit the yahoo board years ago.

Getting my '86 CP 19-2 (#349) ready for a trip to Cape Cod Bay later this summer.  First time in the water since moving to Mass in '08 (I think Curtis provided me some good New England sailing info on the yahoo boards prior to my move).

Boat sat on the trailer through three western Mass winters, so have a nice "to-do" list.  Main and genoa are at SailCare right now getting washed and repaired thanks to some f'ing mice that moved in (2 KIA after I discovered their presence, no indication of others).  Fortunately they didn't cause any other major damage.  I think they were getting in via the lines I had securing a tarp.

Only major repair I've got to make is related to core damage at the starboard quarter, where the stern pulpit and deck cleat are mounted.  Apparently a long-term leak at the pulpit base rotted the plywood core completely.  Going to try to do the repair from below, inside the locker, should be fun.

Boat has the original Maxwell 14 winches and I've never been able to get the port one apart for maintenance.  The drum spins normally, but the center ratcheting part is frozen.  Been trying to get penetrating oil in where it might do some good, been whacking the hell out of the winch handle trying to free it up (it will move, but barely and with great difficulty), and been prying from the bottom of the drum (carefully), but nothing.  Next move is to try to remove the nuts from below and take the whole unit off, but I'm sure the bolts will just spin.  Any ideas on how I might free this thing up?  Josef "madwand" was kind enough to give me the two Barlows off his CP19 after the tree fell on it, so I may just replace the Maxwells (if I can get the one off).

That's it for now.  I'm sure I'll have more once I start exploring New England waters.

Cheers,

Keith




Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: Salty19 on June 16, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Keith,  Welcome to the forum.  Sounds like you have a plan to fix her up nicely. I would be surprised if there was a lot of wood back there as Compacs are not cored with wood throughout, just at a few stress points.

As for the winch..a breaker bar with PB Blaster or "torch pen" or both on the nuts will probably do the trick.  If still no go and stubborn..impact wrench or cut them off from below.   Hope the bolt holes line up!

Have fun and get out there...3 years is way too long!



Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: Bob23 on June 17, 2011, 03:27:59 AM
Welcome, Keith. Looking forward to hearing of your adventures.
Sailcare did my original sails for my 1985 23/2 and they came back crispy and clean. The process is only good for a few years and if the sails are original, you might be in the market soon. But they did manage to extend the life a few more years before I had to pry open my wallet for new sails.
Bob23 in southern NJ.
Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: kickingbug1 on June 17, 2011, 02:37:43 PM
   ah pb blaster---the only reason i was able to disassemble that old 52 ford truck.
Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: Salty19 on June 17, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
Kick...looking forward to seeing the truck.  Once it's done, you can stop calling it 4 letter words (Except Ford). 
Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: Keith on June 17, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
Thanks guys.

My problem with the winch is that after removing the main screw (down in the winch "socket"), the whole drum assembly should lift straight up.  It won't budge, even with much physical persuasion and four letter encouragement.  The drum turns properly and clickety-clicks, but the ratcheting device on top doesn't and it appears to be what's holding the whole thing down.  The way it's constructed (the shaft of the ratcheting part fits down into the center of the winch base) there's no good way of getting the penetrating oil in where it's needed (at least how I figure it).  Hopefully the nuts will come off from below without difficulty, but I foresee a nut splitter of cold chisel in my future.  And no, I don't believe the Maxwell mounting holes match those of the Barlows (of course).

Called SailCare this morning and they're almost done (quick turnaround).  The sails were in real good condition before the mice chewed holes in them and defecated on them.  I'm also having them install a reefing point in the main, didn't have one before.  As stiff as the 19-2 is, I figured a single deep reef about 40 inches up would be good insurance if I get caught in nasty weather.   Got a 95% working jib on order from North for the same reason.

Cheers,

Keith



Title: Re: Hello all
Post by: Tim Gardner on June 18, 2011, 07:45:03 AM
Maybe this will help:
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae355/tigar100dner/boat%20pics/maxwell14.jpg?t=1289506026)