I would like to know where the best place to put ac on the 27 and the thru hulls if anyone has suggestions/ideas I would very much appeciate it
Welcome to the forum.
I always thought that if I was to add AC it would be on of the carry-on 7000 units from cruisair.
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I added shoreside a/c to Miss B about two years ago. LOVE it! It is really a must in South Florida and extends my weekending excursions well into summer. If it is too hot in mid July for day sailing we find a nice resort with reasonable dock fees and plug in the shore power, nap all day in the a/c and then evening/night sail. Also is great for working inside the boat on summer projects.
I mounted the watercooled unit under the stove and ducted the air up and into the main salon. I had pictures of the full installation but lost them in a computer crash. If intrested I will take some of the finished project
yes I would love the pics...where did you put the thru hulls?
CaptnJohn,
Here are a few pictures of my A/C installation, Miss B is in the middle of some interior modifications so she is a little messy.
The first is of the unit installation underneeth the stove. The pump water exit runs behind and forward under the port side settee above the waterline. The drain runs to the bilge and is picked up by the bilge pump. Since it is fresh condensate water it sort of cleans out the bilge (I sail in the big salt pond).
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This is a shot of the modified doors so there is adiquate air movement. There is still room for a plastic wire basket in front but no heavy or sharp pointed objects.
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Ducting runs up and into the salon only. On really hot days I have a fan that I turn on to get air into the v-berth. Thought about running a duct to the v-berth via a duct under the settee and up the inside of the wet closet but didn't. Not sure I would if I had it to do over.
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The switch plate on the verticle bulkhead is the fan control and thermostat.
Here is the re-circulating pump, I am using water "t'ed" from the head supply. So far I've no problems with this set-up.
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Hope this helps , let me know if you have any other questions.
Nice looking engine compartment. But you'd think if you went to all the expense of installing a Yanmar you'd replace the old Universal hose clamps on the raw supply.
Just kidding!!!
Jimyyoung,
That appears to be a great way not to pull boat and drill additional sinkums...I mean thru hulls...I like it...in case it doesnt state it in your previous message.....what is the make and btu rating? I had wondered about t-ing into the head supply
thanks
more questions I am sure to follow
Bmiller,
Something old, something new, something borrowed, something (ideas only) stolen...... Miss B is a collection of triumphs and mistakes. Besides, if it ain't broke, put it back on 'til it does.
CaptJohn,
I am pretty sure it's a 10,000 BTU unit and does a great job on any day but August 15Th in south Florida. Then I'm not sure 40,000BTU's would be enough. I'll look next time and correct myself if I am wrong. Been over a year or two ago and my memory isn't what it used to be.
Jimyoung - nice clean install. The factory recommended under the v-berth. After seeing your install I can deal with reducing the lower cabinet size. I have used the Cruisair on a Catalina 30 and it worked ok, only OK. I think it was too small, maybe 6k btu. The funny thing was a 5000 btu $99 walmart window unit cooled more effectively just sitting in the hatch than the Cruisair. Sold the Cruisair and am heading to walmart until funding is appropriated for 9000 btu mermaid.
Captjohn - have you decided on your location and unit? I would be interested when you do.
You gotta love those clean bilges...
"The funny thing was a 5000 btu $99 walmart window unit cooled more effectively just sitting in the hatch than the Cruisair. Sold the Cruisair and am heading to walmart until funding is appropriated for 9000 btu mermaid."
I don't know the interior of the 27 at all but one trick I saw with a window unit in a 23 was to install it at the base of one of the settee berths. The unit basically vented into the cockpit locker area. I think I saw it on the Sailboat Company website in their project sections but it isn't there any more.
Shawn
I know that a 5,000 btu in the hatch will effectively cool craft in the 26 to 32 foot range. I have assumed it's because the heat generated by the AC unit is directly exhausted outside. Its not nearly as nice as installed AC, but it is effective on a hot summer night.
I ll be back at boat next w/e and do some measuring....I do like the no new thru hulls that jimmyoung has achieved
Regarding the CP 23 with A/C, I have a CP23 that was purchased in NC. A prior owner cut the bulkhead behind the port berth (where the stove slides back under) and put a standard home window A/C unit in the bulkhead. The part that would be outside the house window is just in the storage compartment. When he ran the A/C, he propped open the compartment lid a little to let the heat out. Instead of having to crawl back under the berth to turn it on/off, its an A/C unit with a battery operated remote control. I don't use it, because I obviously have no power when sailing, and no power at the dock. But it's fantastic for working on the boat in the summer, on the trailer in the driveway. Just for the heck of it, I found I could run it from a little $149 harbor freight generator. The weight of the A/C unit helps balance my two batteries on the opposite side starboard location.