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Title: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 17, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
Did you guys know that you can change your username under your profile?  As I've sold the 16 and acquired a 19 I figured my username should be updated.  And it worked!

Now just have to think of a new boat name...
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Bob23 on November 17, 2009, 04:19:27 PM
Salty:
   You are a genius! I didn't know one could do that. Good thing because if I buy a 27 or a 19 then a name change will be in order.
   Remember when you change the name of the vessel, certain rituals should be observed. If on the hard, you should walk around it counter-clockwise twice. In the water, rowing will do. There are other rituals that more informed sailors here on the site will inform you of. I personally like spilling a bit of the Captains favorite beer on the bow.
   Congratulations on the new boat.
Bob23
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: nies on November 17, 2009, 04:28:45 PM
Frank, check CP 19 for my post about naming.......beer on bow is all that is needed on boats 24 foot and down,Wisconsin rule.......Phil
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: B.Hart on November 18, 2009, 08:24:15 AM
  Congratulations on the new boat, If I could move up the 19 would be my choice. What is the year and condition. HAPPY SAILING   BILL
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Steve Ullrich on November 18, 2009, 08:43:51 PM
There seem to be a lot of postings on the web related to renaming a boat.  I thought this one worth sharing:

http://www.globalpsychics.com/amusing-you/superstition/boat.shtml

I renamed my new to me C16 last summer without any fanfare... but maybe I should reconsider and do it right next summer before I lose another shroud, or bust another sheer pin...?

Quote from: Salty19 on November 17, 2009, 03:25:09 PM
Did you guys know that you can change your username under your profile?  As I've sold the 16 and acquired a 19 I figured my username should be updated.  And it worked!

Now just have to think of a new boat name...
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Bob23 on November 19, 2009, 05:01:38 AM
   In all seriousness, my fellow Compactors:
   When I changed the name of my 1985 23/2 "Septembers Love" (WHAT were they thinking?) to "Koinonia" I performed none of the rituals at all. And have had no misfortunes whaatsoever. I am not superstitious at all and, more importantly, "Koinonia" isn't either. She told me so.
   But you should do what you feel is right. Me, I'm gonna sail!
Bob23
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 19, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
Interesting note about the username change.  I have to log in still as Salty16,  but it shows as Salty 19 in posts and in the "hello" area (top left pane).   Weird.

Still thinking about the new boat name.  We like the old name, but it's just not "us".   Actually I've delgated that task to my wife to come up with ideas to share. I suspect we'll come up with something soon.  A dual counterclockwise rotation with beer spillage on the bow seems to be an appropriate measure to take.   I will try that on Friday next time I see the boat (it's at my brothers across town at the moment).

Thanks for the link, Steve (and Phil in the other post). If nothing else it will provide some entertainment!


Bill, it's a 1998 CP19XL first sailed in 2003.   It also has several factory options I haven't heard folks talking about including stern rail seats and custom hull color/interior fabric.  Really aside from the hull being oxidized and the woodwork needs restored, there is nothing else to do on it...except wait for spring and go sailing!




Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 19, 2009, 01:39:04 PM
Steve,

Yes, I agree...sounds like you needed to follow the ritual.  The gods have spoken! Twice!
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Craig Weis on November 21, 2009, 11:51:59 AM
Cool!! happy to see you enlarged....
skip.
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 22, 2009, 07:40:39 PM
Well here is the before and after (only one side restored thus far) of the new boat!  

Cleaned but very oxidized..



(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z290/yamaholic_mcarp/DSC00826.jpg)



Cleaned, removed stickers, wetsanding 800, 1000, 1500, 2000 grit, 3M Rubbing Compound twice, 3M Finnese It II twice. Haven't waxed, awaiting Collinite Fleet Paste in the mail.   Actually I may go back and wetsand some more along the rubrail-miised some spots. Big difference, huh?  And NO POLIGLO so it will last provided I keep up on the wax.



(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z290/yamaholic_mcarp/DSC00895.jpg)


Check that shine and stern rail seat with beer cupholders!



(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z290/yamaholic_mcarp/DSC00890.jpg)

Still have the other side to go. Unfortunately the bottom will get painted next year though.
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Steve Ullrich on November 22, 2009, 07:49:24 PM
Looks beautiful.  First blue hull I've seen... Seems like a sin to paint her.  Are you keeping her at a slip?
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Bob23 on November 23, 2009, 03:56:03 AM
David and all:
   That's right. To call them beer holders might imply what we drink beer while out sailing and that's illegal. (Hold on while I put the phone down, I'm passing a cop.) Those holes might be called "sustaining beverage and provision containment recesses". Or beer holders. Or coffee holders. The real question is, what kind of beer will be held?
   Beautiful boat...what a color. What a find!
Bob23
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Tim Gardner on November 23, 2009, 08:36:10 AM
Hmmm.  Bob, You might need to sail here in VA.  Not illegal to have beer holders with beer in them here.  It just illegal to be intoxicated while skippering (or driving) said boat.  Sustaining Beverage Holders indeed.

With all due (hic) respect,

TG

'85 CP 19II #323 NVSBH (No Visible Sustaining Beverage Holders on board)
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: nies on November 23, 2009, 08:41:48 AM
Does this mean that I will have to hide my hands, because I believe they are the real SUSTAINING BEVERAGE HOLDERS. Have to hide my beer belly next....Phil
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 23, 2009, 12:54:04 PM
Thanks, guys...lot's of work to make the finish look like that!

The hull color, blended into the gelcoat at the factory, is a "Miami" style teal. It looks better in person than in the pictures.


Quote from: Steve Ullrich on November 22, 2009, 07:49:24 PM
Seems like a sin to paint her.  Are you keeping her at a slip?

Yes, I rent a slip at the local city marina during the season. I would love to not paint the bottom as it's in such nice shape but unless I haul it monthly to clean/wax I don't see another choice.    Thinking about going with VC17 in black but still plenty of time to decide. 
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Bob23 on November 23, 2009, 08:34:00 PM
I think Petit makes some bottom paint in colors..."Vivid" if I remember right. How 'bout a nice orange bottom?
Bob23
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on November 24, 2009, 12:37:27 AM
Thanks, Bob yes I was checking into Vivid.  Depending on the light conditions and angle of view, the hull looks like either "Green 1 white" or "1 Blue/4White" from the below link. And in very low light is starts to look more like "4 Green 1 Yellow".   I wonder if I can match it up!?!

http://www.pettitpaint.com/vivid.asp (http://www.pettitpaint.com/vivid.asp)

Black or white would probably look good too. Or go hooker orange ( 4 Yellow/1 Red) as you said. If it looks too Miami beach the bottom paint will be repainted eventually anyway!
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on December 03, 2009, 02:31:27 PM
Still am thinking about new names and have narrowed down to a few.  I suppose that I won't be able to share it until the official renaming ceremony has been finalized..bad luck for sure.

The "restoration" is coming along really well.  That seems a little funny to me because the boat is in excellent shape and just needs some elbow grease, so restoration is too strong of a word. 

One hull side is completely done and looks "new"!  I resanded some areas, recompounded/glazed those sanded areas and put on 3 coats of Collinite Fleet Paste wax.  The other side is half sanded and obviously needs more work.  The transom does not need sanding but rather compounding, polish and wax only.  Unfortunately the weather is now turning into winter here so wet sanding just isn't going to happen!  The boat is officially now stored in a barn for the winter so the rest will have to wait until spring. 

As for bottom paint, I'm leaning towards just plain 'ol white as the final coat color. Still plenty of time to decide that. Not looking forward to this...looks like the bottom epoxy coats and paint layers should be applied the same day for best results-at least for Petit and WM CPP+. 

Do all the bottom epoxy and paint combinations require same day application?  Seems like that would take you all day and hald the evening?


Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Bob23 on December 03, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
All kidding aside, Salty.
   I use Pettit Hydrocoat exclusively. While I am very color conscious above the waterline, below it I want something that works great. I just pulled "Koinonia" on Saturday after being in since April 18th and had one, yup, count it- one whole barnacle. Best thing is, no need to recoat in the spring if there is paint still on the boat. Just a touchup is all that's needed. I got 3 years out of a single coat this way till I felt guilty and recoated the entire boat this spring.
   But, yes, you need to apply a coat of hard bottom paint first. Usually we use just that for the first season then switch to Hydrocoat for the next seasons.
   I have never applied an epoxy barrier coat to my vessel but my friend did on his Morgan 30. Yes, before the last bottom coat coat dried, he applied the hard bottom paint. Stuck like glue!
Bob23...just my 2 cents...again
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: kickingbug1 on December 03, 2009, 06:13:51 PM
 gotta tell ya buddy she looks almost as good as the little lady (that she should be named after). kidding aside, just beautiful (my daughters favorite color teal). unique to be sure. makes my 16 look a bit dowdy but you know how i love com-pacs. we hope to see the three of you next year. give her a kiss on the cheek and put her to bed (the boat that is)
Title: Re: Salty 16 is now Salty 19
Post by: Salty19 on December 03, 2009, 11:11:30 PM
Thanks, Bob...yep I know I gotta do the epoxy coat.  And from what I've been reading you are right--slap that paint on while the last barrier coat is drying or basically right away.  I had to laugh a little bit because just an hour ago when discussing this subject with my wife "I really don't care what color it (below water line paint) is..all I care about is that it will do a good job".  I"ll look into Hydrocoat, thanks for the tip.

Oh and wowzers one barnacle is nothing in that bay of yours!  I bet you've seen your share of them on other boats less cared for than Koinonia.  Here at the little puddle in central Ohio where I moor, there is lots of slime and grassy grow but nary a muscle or barnacle. But I would trade a barnacle or two for sailing the open waters you enjoy anytime!

Steve-o, definitely planning on a sailing trip out to Carlyle Lake this year.  My lips are already smacking for the BBQ! It would be a lot of fun to get a few other sailors out there--what a nice lake and of course Compac owners are the best!  P.S. Will send you a few pics on email.