I'm looking for a single burner stove to heat some water and do a little cooking while at anchor. I'm not ready to invest in a nice gimbaled one, just looking for something safe and cheap to get by for a while. Over at sailFar there were a few people who liked butane stoves like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Push-Button-Butane-Camping-Emergencies/dp/B000RA8V1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1251685420&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Push-Button-Butane-Camping-Emergencies/dp/B000RA8V1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1251685420&sr=8-1)
After reading all kinds of posts on a number of different boat messageboards I'm confused and concerned. It seems there is a lot of concern with propane due to the cylinders leaking, but it seems to be the preferred fuel if you have a larger boat with a locker and safety valves. Alcohol/kerosene/diesel/gasoline stoves look finicky and difficult to fill. All of these issues are making the butane stove look appealing.
What are others using on you com-pacs? Is butane safer than propane? Do I still need to find a way to store the butane above deck?
Hi Nate,
I have had good luck with the butane stove that you posted s link to and would recommend it. They are cheap, easy to use. Sometimes it can be hard to find the cylinders though. My favorite stove for cooking on the sailboat though is one of the Jetboi cooking systems. Someday I would like to make a gimble system for it.
Nate:
I don't know your boat but I'm using the factory 2 burner Origo alchohol stove that came with my 23. Works great, not really any problem filling it and it heats a pot of water in 8 minutes.
They are not cheap if you have to buy a new one though.
I'm sure that the folks here are using all kinds of stoves. I think Practical Sailor did a review on different stoves a while back; might be a good resource. If I can dig up the old copies, I'll repost here.
Bob23
Pretty cool little stove. Thanks for the link. I see they also sell one with a case and a folding fry pan for a little bit more... I might put one on my Christmas list.
Quote from: NateD on August 30, 2009, 10:32:23 PM
I'm looking for a single burner stove to heat some water and do a little cooking while at anchor. I'm not ready to invest in a nice gimbaled one, just looking for something safe and cheap to get by for a while. Over at sailFar there were a few people who liked butane stoves like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Push-Button-Butane-Camping-Emergencies/dp/B000RA8V1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1251685420&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Push-Button-Butane-Camping-Emergencies/dp/B000RA8V1S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1251685420&sr=8-1)
After reading all kinds of posts on a number of different boat messageboards I'm confused and concerned. It seems there is a lot of concern with propane due to the cylinders leaking, but it seems to be the preferred fuel if you have a larger boat with a locker and safety valves. Alcohol/kerosene/diesel/gasoline stoves look finicky and difficult to fill. All of these issues are making the butane stove look appealing.
What are others using on you com-pacs? Is butane safer than propane? Do I still need to find a way to store the butane above deck?
I have two of the butane stoves on my Cape Dory.
Reasons:
1. I do not like the stock alcohol stove.
2. They work very well, are easy to use
3. I can cook OUTSIDE so if you are cooking stinky stuff (Bacon, fish etc)
then you don't have to have the smell in the boat
4. You can take them home and use as warmers for parties etc...
5. They pack very small, fuel is accessible from Target.
The only bad thing I have found, is that I had stored 4 cans in external lockers.
I put them in, in the spring and when I was pulling the boat for the winter, found that the
four cans were empty and the cans were rusted from the salt air.
Anyone have other sources for the butane cans that fit the glomate and other stoves in that class. Someone mentioned Target, I stopped at several in Alabama on a recent trip none there. No Korean food stores in town, no food or restaurant wholesalers that sell chafing dish components.
I know I can buy them online, however a dozen at a time with high shipping. Kind of wanted to try a few first see if I like this stove or if I want to change to something else.
I live in a small town, however, going through Birmingham, AL in a couple of weeks, also Montgomery, Dothan and Panama City, Fl.
Frank
Here is my stove on Comfort & Joy. Can heat the cabin as well with some air coming in. Picked it up in Manitowoc, WI at the Kitchen Store as a single burner bottled gas self contained unit. Works great, stores even better and is smaller and lighter then a Coleman unit. Ignites with the first snap of the crystal. Stores in a plastic carriy case.
The Yacht Club uses about six on 'Pasta Night'. YUMMO!! to quote Rachel Ray on the Food Net Work.
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Skip,
That's exactly like the one I picked up. Used last week on the boat and on the shore and it worked great. I had a hard time finding the right size butane cans for it around here (except at West Marine who wanted $6/can). But I was able to buy a 12 pack of cans for $26 shipped off Amazon.com.
Nate
Nate - How long did a can of butane last for you?
Quote from: NateD on September 27, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
Skip,
That's exactly like the one I picked up. Used last week on the boat and on the shore and it worked great. I had a hard time finding the right size butane cans for it around here (except at West Marine who wanted $6/can). But I was able to buy a 12 pack of cans for $26 shipped off Amazon.com.
Nate
They say 90 minutes, but I haven't put that to the test yet. I was able to boil enough water for 2 cups of coffee in 4.5 minutes in my kitchen. I would guess in real world conditions with the wind blowing it might take something more like 8 minutes, so one can of butane should last about 30 cups of coffee.
Using this stove I heated up a ton of spaghetti, cooked some burgers [I don't eat fish] made scrambled egg sandwitches and made hot chocolate, still on my second bottle after three years. Have two spares on board not tapped yet. skip.
I use the same stove also. The butane can be purchased at restaurant supply stores.
We have a similar stove. I've been purchasing canisters from Bass Pro Shops until our local Ace Hardware displayed their own brand at a much cheaper price. I talked to the manager and bought a case of 24 for $30.
I'm not one for messy cooking on a boat, so, we precook hamburgers, brats, spaghetti...and vacuum seal them. When it's time to eat, boil a pot of water and place the sealed items in the pot for a couple of minutes and you have a good meal with minimal mess! The brats and burgers taste as if they just left the grill. MMMmmmm brats....
I have the same stove, and used it for the first time on a cruise early summer. For me a can lasted through three full pots of perked coffee, around 10-12 minutes each on high and one pasta dish also about 10-12 minutes. So about 45 minutes. I also bought my fuel, a dozen can box, on Amazon.
I bought a brass adapter from a US store which allows you to refill the cans from a larger keg.
I have the kenyon stove that came with my CP23. Never used. Anyone want it?
[I have a barbeque grill on the stern rail now and that work great. Keep it in the v-berth when not in use. Propane is just kept in the cockpit for now - should fix that.]
Curtis
I have a new Gas One; got the canisters from the Asian market for a buck apiece.
Next question: do you really take the canisters out and store them elsewhere? If so, how do you do it? Bring it home each time?
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: BruceW on June 06, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
I have a new Gas One; got the canisters from the Asian market for a buck apiece.
Next question: do you really take the canisters out and store them elsewhere? If so, how do you do it? Bring it home each time?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I do. I pull the can from the stove, mark the approximate burn time remaining, then take it home and put it in the back shed. I use the partial cans for the second Gas One stove I keep near the grill to heat up sauces, veggies, and anything that needs heating for outside cooking. Run them dry that way then put them in the metal recycle bin.
Brack,
Ace is the place......for me!
I can buy single cans there. But I usually buy two or three at a time.
Thanks, Brackish,
I only have the one, but I do see how I can do this; for now, I'll bring the canister back, will take a spare with me for when it runs out. I'll just have to remember, haha. I added it to my leave the boat checklist.
Billy, good tip on Ace, too; it's a bit more convenient than the asian market when I run out; I bought 6 cans though.
Butane gas is heavier than air. It should be stored in a compartment that is above the water line and vents overboard. I keep the cans in my boat Sun Cat next to the Outboard gas can which resides in an area that vents overboard.
Quote from: curtisv on September 26, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
I have the kenyon stove that came with my CP23. Never used. Anyone want it?
[I have a barbeque grill on the stern rail now and that work great. Keep it in the v-berth when not in use. Propane is just kept in the cockpit for now - should fix that.]
Curtis
Are you still looking for a home for the Kenyon stove? if so, I'll take it.
I have one of these stoves on Windrover. They are great. I bought two of them and a dozen fuel cans at Target several years ago. Target no longer sells these in our area but Wal-Mart does. The stove and cannisters can be had there. Always remember that anything marked Marine will be far more expensive than the same or similar item marked camping. Check the camping section of Wal-Mart for the stove.
Steve
I'm thinking of getting one of these for my Camp cruising adventures aboard my 19.
I'd like comments pro or con. What do Y'all think?
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Details Here:
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That's a whole lot more than just a single burner stove, Tim!
Would you use it aboard though? Looks like you'd have to go ashore to gather fuel, unless you brought some with you, and then you might as well cook ashore.
Interesting concept of using biomass to charge your phone. Could really help out in out of the way places.
I'm interested in a very small grill that I can use aboard. I don't want to stow a large grill aboard my SunCat, Nomad. Just one say... the size of the one in the video, or 9 X 10 inches.
Let us know how you like it!
Ron
I was thinking of devising a clamp on rail mount for it similar to my Versa-brella mounts:
(http://www.sport-brella.com/images/hero_versa_brella_blue.jpg)
Look at that price tag, OUCH!
You'd have to do a lot of backwoods cooking to get your money's worth.
I do like the concept.
This would be perfect for my daughter who hikes and camps the Colorado wilderness.
CC
I have used them all but for smaller boats the butane stove is the most common. The canisters should be stored in an outside locker that vents overboard. These stoves are very hot so one canister can last a good while. I have one on my Sun Cat to mostly warm stuff up and I never open the valve wide open. Often it is set at it's lowest point. These stoves are very inexpensive as is the fuel. My local WalMart has the stove and fuel canisters.
I have used a pressurized alcohol stove which I really hated and an Origo which I really liked. The Origo canisters are easy to fill and heat up amazingly fast. The only problem is the stove is too expensive.
On our larger boat we had Propane with tanks mounted in lockers that vented overboard and had a solenoid valve and propane sniffers. We cruised on this boat for a few years. Way overkill for a pocket cruiser.
Tom L.
The butane stoves have served me well over the years ... Local Sam's Club sells refills .. 4 for under $6.00. And yes .. they will rust easily if kept on-board.
When not on an extended or overnight 'voyage' I store the spare tanks in my "Cook Box" which I no longer store on the boat.
The stove itself at Sam's Club is over $25. ... a little pricey compared to Amazon.com or other. Should you want a little nicer stove; a stainless steel model is available if you look around a bit.
ChuckO'
CP16-2 Carpe Diem
Charleston, SC
I have the same butane stove as many cite here (mine is a Kenyon from West Marine - many years ago - WM does not carry it any more) and will use it this year for the first time inside on my Suncat for the non-smelly stuff, outside on bridge deck for other (smelly cooking) as others suggest - Used it for years on a Freedom 21 in same fashion. Agree with others who have posted that it is a very useful stove!
Had not used it on my relatively new Suncat yet because I could not find fuel (except in large quantities on line)... However I recently discovered Gander Mountain (an outdoors-store chain) sells Coleman branded single bottles of the fuel at $3.49 each. (apparently a new product for Coleman) If you only cook a few times a year, one or two cans is plenty... On my Freedom I'd go through one can and part of a second for a one week cruise using it once a day for dinner and to make coffee many mornings. I find the non painted surfaces on the cans rust (but still work - no apparent leaks - yet how do you know for sure when you see rust) after a while (year or two in a Northern garage- no salt air). Hence a small, easily replenished quantity is a good/safe approach. I am guessing any Coleman dealer can now get this product...
Esbit available from Amazon (and others) is similar but a LOT cheaper and in my mind better. If you want to recharge cell phones, etc. there are rechargeable battery paks too. Link below
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UEL76Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1