last week a friend of mine and i towed our cp16s to mark twain lake in missouri. we planned on staying three nights but storms put an end to that plan. we did spend one night aboard. john sleeps like a log i guess cause he didnt even hear it raining which it did most of the night. im 6'5" and once i slid myself into the bunk i was fine until i decided to move a bit. although i would try sleeping aboard again i think if i were considering cabin accomodations important, i would be happier with a cp19. much as i love my 16 i dont relish sleeping on her in the near future. it might be ok if you sleep like a "mummy".
Becky calls it The Coffin. She will never sleep there. I may sometime, but like you don't look forward to the actual mummy pit. What about a cockpit tent with a filler board and air matress? I'm considering making a tent to save $$
hey, guys and gals. a cockpit tent is a good way to go. use the cabin for storage unless the weather is real bad. try half-inch plywood to fill the footwell and you have a 7x5' space. tents are easy to make and work well to keep the rain or dew out of the cockpit.
Have boom tent, but just don't understanding how to do the 1/2 inch plywood. Do you place it over the whole cockpit, or...?
I find a few (or more) nips of rum helps ... a lot.
Saw this on another site for a Potter 15 but the same idea would work on a CP16...
http://www.tetra-sail.com./tetra-mods2009.htm#grate (http://www.tetra-sail.com./tetra-mods2009.htm#grate)
Shawn
Hmm...you might be able to buy that set up from the owner. He just gave away his boat a couple weeks ago, during a the Texas 200. Here's the story:
http://www.wwpotterowners.com/JohnTurpin3.html (http://www.wwpotterowners.com/JohnTurpin3.html)
Quote from: kchunk on June 21, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Hmm...you might be able to buy that set up from the owner. He just gave away his boat a couple weeks ago, during a the Texas 200. Here's the story:
http://www.wwpotterowners.com/JohnTurpin3.html (http://www.wwpotterowners.com/JohnTurpin3.html)
Wow. That must have been one harrowing afternoon. If you read this guys other stuff and visit the website that he created for that boat, you'll see that he loved that boat as much or more than we love ours, and he just gave it away right there on the spot. It reminds me of fear and timidity that I felt once, the first time I got "baptized" in heavy white water back in my early kayak days. No doubt one of the worst feelings I've ever had. Last thing in the world I wanted to do at that moment was get back in that boat.
Anyway, I wonder if John will migrate to an older CP16 now. Self righting, no centerboard trunk to flood the cabin and an extra foot of sleeping room.
Quote from: kickingbug1 on June 15, 2009, 04:45:51 PM
last week a friend of mine and i towed our cp16s to mark twain lake in missouri. we planned on staying three nights but storms put an end to that plan. we did spend one night aboard. john sleeps like a log i guess cause he didnt even hear it raining which it did most of the night. im 6'5" and once i slid myself into the bunk i was fine until i decided to move a bit. although i would try sleeping aboard again i think if i were considering cabin accomodations important, i would be happier with a cp19. much as i love my 16 i dont relish sleeping on her in the near future. it might be ok if you sleep like a "mummy".
I've 'slept' in mine, maybe the better word is passed out. Few stiff drinks will nock you out and you wont know the difference :) I slept like a baby that night tho.
Cabin is too small and it is way too hot down here. I like the boom tent idea. Will probably do something like that for the fall through Spring months, before it gets too hot. I tend to think of the Cabin as simply a storage area.
The filler board can be implemented pretty easily.
Cut exact fit plywood or starboard to fit the cockpit foot well. Add removable screw-in metal pipe for legs (and easy storage) cut to a depth to allow the board to be flush with the cockpit seats. Or perhaps some sort of bracket that allows the feet to swing down for easy storage yet lock in the open position. Could be one big piece or two smaller pieces of filler board. I think Gil Weiss or multimedia smith did this...can't remember.
Johnj has a nice setup, he uses wood (teak??) trim pieces screwed/bolted into the footwell. The wood pieces are about 5/8" square and as long as each of the 4 sides of the footwell. They are positioned about 1" lower than the cockpit seats. He has 2 cut-to-fit acrylic or some sort of plastic/lexan boards that can be dropped in, being held up by the wood strips surrounding the footwells. Of course plywood or any flat strong surface could be used too. I presume there is a hole in one of them to grasp it for removal. An advantage here is easier to setup and store and there is the full space available underneath if add'l storage is needed. However holes in tbe boat are required, which may not appeal to some.
TeamSlacker, Yes, your is the best answer! Karma to you from the cajun.
Many years ago when we were looking for a cabin boat we saw a sweet 16 in the Dunedin FL Marina. We fell in love with the boat but with a family of 5 used to the relative comfort of a Sea Pearl 21 we bought the Compac 23 next to the 16.
Yes the cost was a lot more but we have never regretted our decision to go larger. Tents sound like a good idea but they really don't work that well - at least on our Sea Pearl. For instance our rainy season has just begun - Its a lot dryer to drop the hook and duck below than have to set up a tent.
I know there are many stories of folks successfully sailing smaller boats in bad weather but size does matter when the weather gets rough. Our 23 has always got us home safe and usually dry. See the post above concerning Tetra about what can happen. That Texas 200 must be pretty rough - there was a similar incident last year.
There is a story in Good Old Boat this month about a large family cruising in a Nimble 20 towing a 12 foot dink - thier tow vehicle is larger than the boat!
All that being said I would not want anything larger than HideAway and certainly nothing smaller unless it was a beach boat. Matt
I tried to sleep on mine last summer. My seven year old has no trouble but I cant roll over which wakes me up. Some trimming of the cabin trim will be needed if I will ever try again. My Hunter 212 was a better bedroom!
My wife and I spent the night at the lake on our new(to us) '89 cp16 recently. Cockpit camping.
It was fantastic!
I laid the door across the cockpit (aft), piled life jackets and a few other items toward the front to support a blow up mattress.
5 years ago i purchased a army surplus mosquito net. Never used it until that night. It fit perfectly over the bimini top. We slept under the stars and woke up to a light sprinkle of rain. I threw a tarp over the boom and went back to sleep.
Our first night on the boat could not have been better.
She is begging me to take her out and do it again!
Life is good!
My wife and I camp on our 16 once a year usually in October(less bugs and cooler temps here in Florida) she sleeps fine but I move around too much and don"t get much sleep but the alcahol doe's hep. I always put up the boom tent to keep the dew off and do all the cooking in the cockpit. Using the one burner propane stove to make coffee in the morning all so takes the chill off. BILL
I have worked out a reasonably good sleeping solution on my 78' Compac 16, which essentially follows the approach discussed earlier that leverages a boom tent, cockpit filler panel, and an inflatable mattress. Works great and is much better than trying to squeeze my 230 pound, 5' 11" frame into the cabin berth. I've camped out on the boat three times and have no complaints.
I have some good pictures of the filler panel and the hardware I crafted to raise it into position level with the cockpit seating. You can view the pictures at http://compac16.shutterfly.com/ (http://compac16.shutterfly.com/)
Cheers
Jimbo
Nice pictures Jimbo. Looks like a great plan. I have a teak cockpit grate that I don't use because I don't want it to get scratched up. Maybe I should start putting it to use.
Quote from: Jimbo on July 29, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
I have worked out a reasonably good sleeping solution on my 78' Compac 16, which essentially follows the approach discussed earlier that leverages a boom tent, cockpit filler panel, and an inflatable mattress. Works great and is much better than trying to squeeze my 230 pound, 5' 11" frame into the cabin berth. I've camped out on the boat three times and have no complaints.
I have some good pictures of the filler panel and the hardware I crafted to raise it into position level with the cockpit seating. You can view the pictures at http://compac16.shutterfly.com/ (http://compac16.shutterfly.com/)
Cheers
Jimbo
Jimbo, nice setup!
Looks great. Thanks for the photos. BILL
I can never view this link it tells me that javascript isn't working properly or something. :(
Quote from: Jimbo on July 29, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
I have worked out a reasonably good sleeping solution on my 78' Compac 16, which essentially follows the approach discussed earlier that leverages a boom tent, cockpit filler panel, and an inflatable mattress. Works great and is much better than trying to squeeze my 230 pound, 5' 11" frame into the cabin berth. I've camped out on the boat three times and have no complaints.
I have some good pictures of the filler panel and the hardware I crafted to raise it into position level with the cockpit seating. You can view the pictures at http://compac16.shutterfly.com/ (http://compac16.shutterfly.com/)
Cheers
Jimbo
Just tried it again... No problem opening it or viewing the pictures. You might just need to update/reinstall your Java application. Here is the site for you: http://www.java.com/en/ Hope that works for you...
Quote from: Robb on August 07, 2009, 09:26:16 AM
I can never view this link it tells me that javascript isn't working properly or something. :(
Quote from: Jimbo on July 29, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
I have worked out a reasonably good sleeping solution on my 78' Compac 16, which essentially follows the approach discussed earlier that leverages a boom tent, cockpit filler panel, and an inflatable mattress. Works great and is much better than trying to squeeze my 230 pound, 5' 11" frame into the cabin berth. I've camped out on the boat three times and have no complaints.
I have some good pictures of the filler panel and the hardware I crafted to raise it into position level with the cockpit seating. You can view the pictures at http://compac16.shutterfly.com/ (http://compac16.shutterfly.com/)
Cheers
Jimbo
Couple of other notes about the cockpit sleeping setup illustrated in the pictures I provided the link to earlier. The grate itself is actually western red cedar. Although I would have preferred teak, price was a factor. Western Red Cedar turned out to be a reasonable alternative for this situation. It's highly resistant to rot, stains up very nicely, and is lightweight. Everything was stained and poly sealed to keep it in good condition, and it continues to perform extremely well.
The cross braces that are put in place between the two cockpit seating benches have been constructed of red oak for strength. Although the pictures don't reflect this detail, I ended up dipping the steel bracket ends in liquid plastic so as to avoid scratch or marring the fiberglass.
I've made many mods to my boat and will try to get some more postings and pictures in place.
I agree that sleeping outside is preferable. My wife, daughter, and I were comfy in our screened in queen sized floating bedroom. The boom tent was held aloft by a sail stop in the slot and the halyard on the boom end. It could be lowered if needed.
Here are a couple of pics from "that other" ComPac site's gallery. Is our's gone?
cockpit filler
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/com-pac/photos/album/712582202/pic/2131620107/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&count=20&dir=asc
Screen Room
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/com-pac/photos/album/712582202/pic/726099135/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&count=20&dir=asc
Cheers to y'all... can't wait 'till fall
Dale