It would be nice to see some Legacy owners post their comments now that the boat has been around for more than a year.
Norm -
Good question.
I have just completed a long search for a small boat and set my sights on a Legacy after a great deal of research. Not much luck finding owner reviews (less than two years since the prototype production, June '06, their hull numbers are only into the 30's), but I gathered as much data as I could elsewhere. I had a 30-year-old Cape Dory until I lost it in Katrina, and now I've relocated to the Midwest so I'm looking for something smaller and portable. Having crunched numbers and crawled through many of the small production boats (16 - 22 ft) I've decided to get a Legacy.
So I plan to post the results of some of my research, and then as I pick up the boat (by the end of May if all goes well) I'll provide a bit more first-hand experience. Stay tuned...
In the meantime, here is a review from Tropical Boating (written by a dealer who also handles Precision and Catalina - not disinterested, but at least someone with a basis for comparison):
http://www.tropicalboating.com/sailing/sailboat-reviews/compac-legacy.html (ftp://http://www.tropicalboating.com/sailing/sailboat-reviews/compac-legacy.html)
And here is the Company's description:
http://www.com-pacyachts.com/news.php (ftp://http://www.com-pacyachts.com/news.php)
All the best,
Eric
Eric I can't say much about the Legacy, however I have sat in one at the sailboat shows and just have a good feeling about this boat.
In my Frappr on the bottom of the home page here are the specs on this boat.
Generally if Com-Pac put together the boat it is correct. skip.
Thanks, Skip -
I crawled all over a Legacy and looked at the competition before deciding to buy. I agree with you - it looks and feels very well made. I've ordered one, and expect to be sailing it by the end of May. I'll post photos and initial feedback then.
In the meantime, I saw the Small Craft Advisor review in their latest edition which arrived in the mail last Friday. It's very positive and leaves me reassured that I made the right choice.
Take care
Eric
I just bought a 2007 Legacy. I'm finding a few areas that seem like they cut corners on, like the popcorn sprayed on the interior rather than doing a smoother/less abrasive finish; painting the hatch door because the wood was unsightly-rather than using a nice piece of wood to begin with; not putting together a decent owner's manual to find out how stuff works and how to maintain it; using more permanent line holders-like the little rubber do-flotchie that holds the ladder line-which is already split its whole length; and not having a drain for the anchor rode compartment. Adding a storage compartment at the stern and more cleats would have been nice!I'm sure there will be a few other minor things, but overall it is a great looking boat and seems to be well made.
I forgot something (besides, I had to get up and get another beer). The mainsheet traveler drives me mad sliding back and forth and the boom is dangerous having that much play. I think it should have been made with adjustable stops-like jib sheet adjustments on larger boats. I made an inexpensive fix, using the same clear plastic tubing that we put on the bottom of the companionway so you don't slice your shins when you climb in and out. Just cut a couple short lengths (after you split it) and put one piece on either side of the sliding do-hickie. It seems to hold it in place firmly-just don't wax the stainless steel bar!
U.M.
Thanks for the slit tubing idea UncleMike. This is much welcome idea for both the hatch opening and to try to get the traveler to stay in the middle to point higher (I hope) I will try it soon.
Deckhand,
I found out in a strong wind that the tubing on the traveler will bunch up. We found small metal clamps that will work even better that have a small wing nut for tightening and loosening that may work better. I can't remember off hand what they are called, but if you can't find something I'll go back to Ace Hardware and try to find what they call these gizmos. Also, I found through trial and error that "Super glue" or something similar works well on the tubing at the foot of the hatchway and DON'T step on it or it'll probably break lose.
Peace,
UncleMike
Hj Norm,
About 2 years ago I purchased a 2007 legacy. My plan was to end up with a small sailboat after 34 years with larger boat in the water.{eastern NC Pamlico sound}. Three weeks ago my boat in the water sold, so have spent the last 3 weekends sleeping aboard the Legacy...What a change! I'm 72 and feel like I am getting away with something. I am in sailing club with a club house a small kitchen and bath house. The trailer sailor can leave the mast up, and launch at the club ramp.
In order to equip the boat I use the Kelty bag system of 4 bags within a larger bag system. The smaller bags have windows for contents on top[ very important] So far they have worked well, items are divided by use galley, bedding, safety, ect. The system fits in the bow forward of the compression post in the space left after removal of the cover for the recessed storage. Of course, a lot of backpacking gear is used. Mountain Smith has a similar system.
Com Pac has done a good update job with the boat .
John Day s/v iota
where in the midwest e sail?
Hey John - good to hear from you. Haven't seen you since Keith Scott's event at New Bern a couple of years ago. Do I recall that your larger boat was a Flicka?
Wes
Wes,
Yes the Flicka is gone,along with her slip in Oriental. I'm full time@ Blackbeard Sailing Club now, and for the time being, interested in smaller sailboats.
John
@John Day
I'd be interested in what your impressions were of the Flicka. The good the bad and the in between.
John, looks like I need to see your Kelty bag system. I also need to figure out where to store the stuff I have, and how to find it again, har har. No help for me, I expect.
Looking forward to seeing you at the club sometime soon.
My wife commented that she had never been afraid on the boat .The boat is an exceptional sailor and behaves like a true yacht. Storage is plentiful, the galley workable,the berths comfortable,and no matter where I was, there were comments of admiration. My take in general is, while sailing and moving , that almost any boat is big enough. The Flicka is comfortable after the destination is reached.My last Flicka was due for a
All of my last post being said , the 2 Flickas I sailed were lightly equipped and had outboards.They were sailed in the Pamlico sound with the exception of Cape Lookout. I really understand why they are listed among the worlds best. I have wanted to try a micro cabin boat= the Legacy fit the bill. Com Pac had to stop somewhere with what they offered,so far I think they got it right,I love the way it sails......Does anyone know why Small Craft Advisor selected a com-pac that has been out of production w/o centerboard for years in their recent comparison??
Took delivery of my 2014 Legacy in April. We are in northeast Florida and do mostly inland water sailing. This is a much smaller boat than we've owned before ( 22 and 28, both Catalina's) and the first sailboat I've trailered. After sorting out what we were looking for, and a lot of research, my wife and I settled on the Legacy. So far, we love it. It has done everything we wanted. Fits in the garage, easy to trailer and set up, very stable for a boat it's size. Performance is good; I really haven't checked actual speeds but we move along quite well in moderate wind. Anyway, we're not looking for lots of speed. We just want to get out on the lake, cruise around, and have some fun. This is the perfect sailboat for that. We get compliments on the boat just about every time we visit the local boat ramp to launch. Cockpit is a bit wet from time to time with water seeping up from the centerboard (first time we've had a centerboard, also). Cabins is perfect for what we need, don't think I would spend too many nights aboard. So we're relearning sailing with a smaller boat and having a blast so far. Great little boat.
Rick 73,
Congratulations! Where are you in NE Florida? I have a Legacy in Melbourne. We're hoping to get her out more since the weather has turned for the better and we have a gas engine-that hopefully will soon be out of the shop!
Near Jacksonville/Orange Park. Yes, the better weather has us on the water more now. The fall and spring offer much better sailing weather.
Enjoy your Legacy.
I was up at Orange Park a few months back visiting "Moose Haven", a nice retirement community for retired Mooses on the river. If you ever get down around the cape or Melbourne, give me a shout. 321-704-3720
Michael (unclemike)
Does anyone have any interior photos of a Legacy? Harder to come by than a unicorn's tooth.
Thanks,
Sal
This site has a few pictures.
http://www.gisails.com/boatpictures/legacy/305 (http://www.gisails.com/boatpictures/legacy/305)
How much headroom is in a Legacy? Friend Tom is looking for a boat with more headroom than his SunCat, and her likes the ease of rigging on ComPac boats.
Thanks,
Ron
eric---where in the midwest?
While I can't measure the headroom in my Legacy right now (it's about 1000 miles away from the house), I would guess that the headroom is about the same as a Sun Cat? There's really not much room in the Legacy. I'm 5'10, and can barely sit up straight without the top of my head scraping the ceiling. I have to sit slouched over, against the pad on the side wall to fit. That's while sitting on the quarterberth without any cushions.
If you add some provisions, the room in the cabin gets completely claustrophobic. Also, if sleeping on the Legacy, there's very tight room for your legs when you slide them under the cockpit seats. If you do add cushions, their thickness takes up even more room. Remember, there's no V-Berth on the Legacy with the bulkhead and anchor rode locker arrangement. You have to sleep in the quarterberths.
If you're looking for a good amount of room on a CP sloop with the Mastender system (easy rigging), I'd seriously look at the Eclipse, or if that's too expensive, maybe an older CP19? I've never slept on the Eclipse, but did sail on one, and it was comparable to my fairly roomy Precision 21.
Mike
Th"e 19 is hard to beat for sleeping comfort. I am 5'9" and very comfortable in the quarter berth. Mast stepping is a little more effort than the mastender system I would think but a raising system makes it ok. From my experience (6 boats), it is a good performer as trailer sailors go.
Thanks Mike and Mike.
I guess he'll have to look elsewhere for sitting headroom.
Maybe the Eclipse. But I don't remember it having a lot either.
Ron
This is from the Small Craft Advisor review...
"In terms of cabin sitting room, the Legacy is one of the best in its class—
which in minicruisers doesn't mean comfort, just the absence of discomfort. Two
persons could conceivably sit across from each other so long as they were adequately
reclined. There's 42" from the sole to the highest spot inside the cabin,
and carpeted back rests are affixed to the hull sides. The settee bunks are only 5"
above the sole, so one sits with knees pulled up a bit."
Hi Guys,
I just went down to my shed and measured the sitting head room in my 2012 Legacy. The boat is fitted with a full set of factory cushions and these headroom measurements are from the top surface of the uncompressed cushions to the cabin ceiling.
The side berth headroom is 30 inches.
We have the two infills and cushions to cover the foot well to extend the sleeping area, and using one of these as a backrest, the other as a seat and sitting amidships, legs stretched out toiwards the companionway is the most comfortable sitting position on the boat. The headroom here is 34 inches and I can sit here very comfortably with full sitting headroom.
From the floor to the cabin top, in the centre of the boat, is 40 inches.
Sitting on the side berths I have to lounge back a bit, I use the infill cushions as back rests and that setup is pretty comfortable and two people can sit around in the cabin at the same time.
It was mentioned above that the berths are a bit tight for leg room, they are, but most of your body remains out in the cabin, only the lower legs have to go up tunnels. The bunk infills are in my opinion a must have, they turn the entire cabin floor into a sleeping platform the full width of the hull. Using them, if you are cruising alone, it is possible to sleep diagonally across the cabin and not have to put your legs up the quarterberth tunnels at all.
Look, the Legacy cabin is small but cosy. I regularly sleep on mine, sometimes my wife accompanies me, and there is ample room for two to sleep comfortably and room for two to lounge around and read or listen to music and eat chocolate etc.
The Legacy cabin is big enough for me, I am six feet tall and weigh about 200 pounds, anyone smaller will have no trouble. Anyone much over six feet will probably find it all a bit of a squeeze.
Cheers,