Hello all,
new to the forum and to Com-pac boats. I've owned and built many differant boats in my life but have been without for a few years. Well, it's finely time to feel the wind again. In the last few months I've been looking and learning about many differant types and sizes of sailboats that would be right for my priorities. The CP 16's meet my wants to a tee. They also have beautiful lines. As of this date of posting I haven't brought together more than 2 or 3k for this boat but should have 4 or 5k in a month or two. I've been reading the post's on this forum as a guest and I feel that this is the community that I want to be a part of. Y'all have been very helpfull to me making up my mind to buying this boat. There is only one thing that I have not been able to come up with. I need to know what the o/a length, width and height of the boat and trailer combind is. I live out here in California and might need to ship the boat and trailer. Also, my garage is only 19' deep x 8' wide x 6'10" high at the door. Are all models about the same length on the trailer or are the bow spirit boats longer on there trailers? I may need to add a folding tongue.
Well, I think I've been long winded enough for now.
Thank you for welcoming me to the fold.
Ron (RJC)
Hi Ron and welcome.
I'm emailing you the 20 page application form which must be notarized, filled out in it's entirety and returned to me along with the non refundable check made out to me in the amount of $5000.00. I don't think you'll have any problem getting approved by our review board...especially once the check clears!!
Glad you're aboard. If you been lurking around here awhile, you must realized that there is a fair bit of shenanigans going on...feel free to join in!
I'm a 23 guy but I'm sure all your questions about a 16 will be answered. The 16 is a wonderful boat and I always am keeping my eye out for one that's looking for a good home.
What have you built in the past? Just curious. Again, welcome aboard!!
Bob23 and "Koinonia", 1985 23/2 in southern NJ
Ron, Pay no attention to the man behind the Bob23 Curtain. The check goes to the most senior Fleet Admiral on board, Me, not the most vociferous, Bob23. I outrank Bob23 by 28 days. (CaptK has more seniority, however he is not actively admiraling. He remains the site guru, though).
So, I will be expecting your check in my mailbox. Thanks again!
TG
Ron:
I need to warn you the Russians have hacked the forum here and Tim is really a KGB agent masquerading as a nice Compac 19 sailor living on a remote lake in Virginia. Do not listen to him or he'll have you drinking that cheap Vodka from Siberia. Stay true to Tito's!! And send the check to me!!
Ron,
Since I am also a New user, don't worry about sending the checks to any of the above. Being a new user, just send half of the check to me, and keep the other half for yourself. Sounds like you just were offered a great deal. 50 percent savings....
PJ
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!! HANG 'EM FROM THE YARD ARM!!!
Don't listen to 'em Ron. I'm the only one here who can guarantee your ongoing membership on this site.
As far as PJ, well...we'll deal with him!
First of all, I would like to thank all of you for your generous donations to my boat fund! I will be anxiously looking for all those checks in my mail box! Bob 23, thanks for the heads up about KGB Tim. Luckily I'm more of a English ale kind of guy.
As for my boating back round. My dad was aboard a Liberty ship during WW2. So some of my earliest memories were of my Dad building boats. I started building rafts at the age of 7. After numerous trials and a lot of errors I built a sailing pram at the age of 12. Since then I have been fortunate enough to have had boats like a 17' Boston Whaler, 25' Fiberform flying bridge cruiser, scratch built 23' Glen L cruiser and trailer (3 years making), 25' Wellcraft T top coastal cruiser and my last boat was a Glen L design 23' Fancy Free gaff headed sharpie sloop and trailer (both Scratch built over 6 years). These are to name a few. I couldn't ever afford a new boat so the boats that weren't scratch built were overhauled or rebuilt to make them "MY" boats. This time around, I want a really nice boat to begin with and tweak it the way I want.
BTW, Bob23, I'll make sure that I include my SS#, mothers maiden name, drivers license # and my current shoe size on your 20 page app papers.
Ron (RJC)
Ron- I think you're gonna fit in here just fine. If we meet in person, the first Guinness is on me! Or PBR, your choice. Again, a hearty welcome!
Bob23
Ahoy Ron, Welcome and i clearly am just a little prejudiced to the 16's as have now owned two of them over the years. There are many wonderful boats out there, but these seem to have a special place in the world of little boats. I have included a link to Keith Scott's website who will forget more than I will ever learn about sailing them. Look for the article on 'Sweet 16" and 'The Best Boat to Learn' for some great tips.
http://www.sailboatrichlands.com
....now as far as Bob, Tim or anyone seeking money from you, just keep telling them the check's in the mail! It's worked for me since we joined this fine forum. :)
Hey Bob23,
are you wanting to buy me a beer or a Patrol Boat River? Ill take anything that's free. I almost bought a PBR once but my wife though it inappropriate for a fishing boat to have twin .50s on it. I tried to tell her that those were only for the fish I couldn't gaff.
She didn't go for it :(
Sorry guys, I was an small arms specialist for 15 years in the reserve and old habits die hard!
Thanks Mas for the link. I'll check it out tonight.
Ron RJC
Ron,
Welcome.
Did you get an answer to the dimensions question relative to your garage. The 8ft and 19ft dimensions should work, particularly with a fold back tongue. The 6'10" dimension sounds very tight. The pulpit is the high point on my 16. If you have a level drive you may be able to work the trailer / boat in with a hand dolly.
I have 10 inch tires. My flat foot reach is 7'10", I can barely touch the top of the pulpit from the ground. Pretty scientific..huh! But the bow is up somewhat to drain aft.
If you need a true dimension, I will measure next time at the marina.
Thank you carry-on for your welcome and your response.
I have had a off road car on a trailer that was this close and I had to un hook the trailer, lower the tongue jack down as far as it would go and roll it back and shoe horn it in. The garage is actually 16' wide but it has to share it with my wife's car. I think the height will work.
I will probably need to have the boat that I find shipped out to me since I live out west and most of these boats are back east or at least mid west. If I can't trailer it back myself, the shipper has to have the correct dimensions to fit it on/in his trailer. I have looked everywhere on line and have found many other boats exact dimensions but for some reason haven't found a Com-pac 16s. I even tried Hutchins/Com-pac yachts in Florida and all they did was send me Legacy info. I'm hoping to find the right 16 somewhere with in 1000 miles or so. But if I have to have it shipped because of distance or the trailer is not up to being trailered this information would help a lot.
Thank all of you for all of your kind welcomes and all the help. I hope I can be of service to y'all in the future.
Ron
Hey Ron, not sure about the exact dimensions on a trailer but will be glad to throw a tape on ours when we return to the boats. Meanwhile try this site:
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=24
Thank you Mas,
That's exactly what I need. The boat on the trailer overall length, width and height. The site that you wanted me to try only gave the boats data.
Ron
I can measure the overall length on the trailer this weekend.
Wayne
My cp16 total length on trailer is 21 feet 7 inches.
That does not include the 12 inches for my motor mount.
My trailer tongue extends 5 feet 7 inches beyond the bow.
Wayne
Get the bowsprit and 10 inch tires whether it fits as well or not. The forward sail area make for less weather helm and better tacking. Towing will be a bit more relaxed although launching requires another inch of water. By all means add a hydrofoil rudder if not equipped; that and adding a 130 jib makes for a sweet sailing C16. Any C16 will do nicely in a pinch. Stability is phenomenal.
Thank you Wayne for taking the time to measure your boat trailer combination for me. I'm working on getting a 1984 C16 Mk1 and will be adding a folding tongue so that should work. I will use your measurements for the shipper. Should I use the boats beam for the max width? I was told that the boat was wider than the trailer? I will also tell them that max height is less than 7 ft. tall when the tongue is on the ground.
For right now what I need is a sound dry hull and a good crisp main. The rest I'll have fun working on as I get acquainted with the boat.
Thanks again everyone,
RJC
My cp16 is wider than my trailer.
Wayne
That's what I was hoping. Do you happen to know the overall maximum height with the tongue all the way down to the top of the bow railing? I might be shipping here soon and that's the last peace of the puzzle. All of your measurements should be posted where others can easily find. This info is very appreciated. Vital information for shipping.
Thank you very much.
Ron