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Etc, Etc, Etc... => CPYOA Alumni Discussions => Topic started by: Tim Gardner on March 17, 2018, 08:14:26 AM

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Question: Do you think this board is needed?
Option 1: Yes votes: 6
Option 2: NO! votes: 2
Option 3: We'll see. votes: 4
Title: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Tim Gardner on March 17, 2018, 08:14:26 AM
There are so many Ex-Com-Pac sailors out there, I thought an Alumni page might be useful.  Tell me what you think.

TG
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Finbar Beagle on March 17, 2018, 08:48:34 AM
Tim,

I second this.  I see so many stay in contact, it would be good for them to share experiences from the Com-pac perspectine.  However, I did come to this post as I thought it was
To decide when your age puts you down in the Old Compac Skipper category.  I think may be close, w
With my assortment of knee cushions...

Regards , and happy St Patrick's Day
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: captronr on March 17, 2018, 10:02:06 AM
Since my only qualification for "old compac user" would be my age, I wouldn't participate in it. 

Personally, If I were a former compac user and I wanted to keep in touch, I doubt I would go to a forum listed as such, but rather would keep reading the other specific sites.  I doubt it would see much action, but I might be incorrect.

Lastly, and it's probably just me, but with options of "yes" and "NO!" (which in my mind means 'HELL NO!", it might skew your results.  Just sayin...........

Ron



Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Reighnman on March 17, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
I was under the impression that one was officially excommunicated upon selling their Com-Pac for another brand.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: HenryC on March 17, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
I love Com-Pacs, but I don't own a Com-Pac myself, never have, and I probably never will.  But I enjoy the crowd and the atmosphere here, so I crash the party anyway. I try to contribute in areas where I feel I have something of value to add to the discussion. 

I don't think an alumni page is necessary, there are already several pages suitable for general or off-topic discussions.  But I don't see how it can hurt, either. I guess it all depends on how much trouble it would be to set it up, and on whether or not it might make the site unmanageable or cumbersome.

BTW, maybe I'm prejudiced because of my own special interests and areas of expertise, but perhaps a page dedicated to navigation, particularly traditional navigation techniques in general and celestial navigation in particular, might be useful.  Celnav may not be of much interest to modern yachtsmen restricted to lakes, bays and coastal cruising in familiar waters, but for people just getting into sailing, or branching out into more ambitious cruising adventures, a refresher or forum on piloting and dead reckoning fundamentals would, IMHO, be of great value; if for no other reason than safety.  Those of you who are familiar with some of my earlier writings on this subject here know I love to share my love for the topic.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Bob23 on March 17, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Reign: Nothing could be further from the truth. Like the Mafia, once you're in, you're in for life!
In general, this sounds like a nice idea-another place for me to shoot my mouth off!! I can't argue with that! One interesting reason for this page is what leads a reasonably sound minded person to move from a Compac to another brand boat. Personally, I look at others all the time and-don't let this get around- but the little Flicka's draw my eye. Don't want to let Koinonia hear me say that, she's a jealous one, she is!
Cheers!!
Bob23
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: HenryC on March 18, 2018, 04:52:16 PM
Yo, Bob 23...

Yes, Flicka,

Aargh, me likes the turn o' her bilge....

...and her big sister, Dana..
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Bob23 on March 19, 2018, 05:55:28 AM
So true, Henry. They both compete for my attention!! First thing I look for when I see a Flicka is a for sale sign! So far, nuthin'. But there's a neglected one at a local marina that is calling my name! I love the Dana but they are a bit out of my range. I can't believe the room down below in a Flicka!
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: HenryC on March 19, 2018, 11:43:59 AM
You probably already know this, Bob, but Flicka was designed by Bruce Bingham, who also designed the Com-Pac Legacy.  I've often wondered if he was the same Bruce Bingham famous for his highly collectible and spectacularly beautiful rock concert posters from the San Francisco hippy era.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kickingbug1 on March 19, 2018, 12:46:07 PM
  first off i have to say that i loved my com-pac 16  for about 7 plus years. however, at 6'5" she became a bit cramped after 4 hours or so and was a bit of a challenge to spend the night on. we decided we needed a larger boat. two boats struck my fancy. one was the com-pac 19 the other was the eclipse. i had a lot of trouble finding a cp19 in my price range, under 5000 dollars. i did miss a good one by a couple of days but all of the rest were either too expensive or were project boats. the eclipse of course was way out of my price range although after sailing on one i have to say i still love the boat and one day we may purchase one. i altered my search to oday, hunter and catalina and eventually bought a catalina capri 18. it was a very good choice. the boat is roomy in and out. at 1500 lbs she trailers easily and can be rigged and launched in about 35 to 40 minutes unassisted. granted she doesn't even compare to a cp19 as far as looks go but like a good friend of mine once said, "beauty is viewed from the helm". anyway like others i have found this site to be very informative and many have vast sailing experience that they are more than happy to share. there are many good sailboat out there and it is always interesting to compare these with com-pacs. as hosts of the CLR, sarah and i welcome all sailors of all boats. the diversity of the group has made it fun for the past 10 years. we hope that other boats in the fleet have not discouraged anyone from attending. hope to see everyone in june.  thanks tim
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kahpho on March 19, 2018, 09:29:44 PM
OK, I'm not clear, are we talking about old ComPacs or old owners??

Doesn't really matter, I don't think I qualify either way.

;)
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Salty19 on March 19, 2018, 10:50:36 PM
Kickingbug, this forum wouldn't be the same without you and neither would CLR. There wouldn't be a CLR if you didn't keep it going all these years.
Sure, you might sail one of those bleach bottle boats and change a race course in the middle of the race, but you're OK in my book.  :) :) :)

If Greene was here I'm sure he would have a better dozier...speaking of Alumni.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kickingbug1 on March 20, 2018, 07:19:30 AM
   a thank you for that buddy
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Tim Gardner on March 20, 2018, 05:58:37 PM
Kick, It isn't my intent to ostracize former CP owners. Just a spot to grab about your current boat.  Hell, my manufacturers include Gloucester, Hunter, AMF, Glastron, Yamaha, Bombardier, Starcraft, Perception, and a few others along with CP.

I guess  I'm a mutt as well as a Mutt owner.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Bob23 on March 20, 2018, 07:12:39 PM
Of course I have throw my 3 cents in here and echo Salty's yarn. Meester Keeknbug puts so much time and energy in the CLR and he is the driving force behind the coolness of this event. I have made many friends through this gathering of like minded wacky Compac-o-nauts, most of whom have become lifelong friends. So thank you! See you in a few short months!!
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kickingbug1 on March 20, 2018, 07:43:02 PM
  got the word that we may have some new sailors at the clr. a couple of guys (one owns 6 sailboats including the much loved catalina 18) and  of his buddies who sails a precision 16.5. that should add even more diversity to the fleet. sure hope we have a good number this year. but large fleet or small it will be a good time. and the new guy informs me that it is a full moon on the 27th  (night sail.   thanks for the kind words guys.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Bob23 on March 20, 2018, 09:38:59 PM
Or night row! I have approved nav lights!
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kickingbug1 on March 21, 2018, 11:47:03 AM
   bob I'm thinking that you are gonna bring your rowboat, however i think Jason would welcome you as a crew member
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: brackish on March 21, 2018, 07:40:12 PM
Despite the fact that I own a 23 I generally browse all categories of this forum and provide input where I feel it might be helpful and get the same back in spades.  It is likely I will go over to the dark side in the future, but would like to continue doing that.  I think Tim G. is right it would be nice to have a "mutt" category to discuss your current boat even if it is not a Compac and even if it does not have a mast.  So I'm going to vote to add it.  The worst that can happen is it gets no traffic and I assume it could be removed if that is the case.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: kickingbug1 on March 21, 2018, 09:15:29 PM
 hmmmmm, no mast?
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Shawn on August 07, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
Quote from: brackish on March 21, 2018, 07:40:12 PM
  It is likely I will go over to the dark side in the future, but would like to continue doing that.

(Really late response....)  Dark side as in another brand sailboat or darkside as in powerboat?

I like the idea of the alumni section... obviously you haven't been able to get rid of me yet. ;)

Shawn
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: brackish on August 11, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Shawn on August 07, 2018, 10:47:04 AM
(Really late response....)  Dark side as in another brand sailboat or darkside as in powerboat?

I like the idea of the alumni section... obviously you haven't been able to get rid of me yet. ;)

Shawn

Fairly late reply too.:)  Dark side as in a powerboat.  Pushing 72 no longer can handle sitting headroom both in the cabin and under a bimini.  The admiral also has issues with no separate head.  And, realistically, Bay Springs Lake is not a good sailing venue.  Probably going to move to a boat that is hard to find in my area, reasonably common in yours.  A semi displacement boat maybe in the Eastern, Seaway, Rosborough, Acadia likeness.  Sea kindly, not real fast, not displacement slow, fairly fuel friendly at cruise and trailerable.  23-25 OAl, lobster boat style stand up headroom cockpit.  Was going to build one, but don't have enough controlled temp space in my shop to handle it.  Bateau Down East 25 long cockpit was first on that list.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: Salty19 on August 11, 2018, 02:10:13 PM
Funny you mention that boat, Brackish. (the Bateau)

In about four years we're retiring and headed down near Charlotte Harbor, FL, stock market permitting.

No question I'm keeping the CP19 as it's a perfect sailboat for those waters and plan to sail her often, but am leaning towards a second lobster style boat to tool around and make better time to destinations and overnights.  Something capable of coastal gulf excursions up to 100 miles would be great.    Maybe put A/C on her (perhaps generator on a towed dinghy?) and outfit it for comfort.

I'll have to look into the other boats you mentioned.  The C-Dory 25 might be an option too.
Title: Re: New discussion page for "Old" Com-Pac owners
Post by: brackish on August 11, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
The C-Dory 25 might be an option too.

I looked at a C-dory Venture 23 this summer and what I found out about C-dory's in general is that they tend to sell very high very used.  Kind of a cult following.  Did not want to pay what the owner wanted for a twelve year old boat that was a bit rough.  Additionally, I just want a little more stern deadrise to cut down the pound in a chop. 

The Bateau was if I built one.  Also considered a Devlin Surf Scoter 24 (not yet on his site, on the drawing board) or possibly a Tolman Jumbo.  But just don't have the room to build it and I found out on my first build if you can't reasonably control the temp year round, an epoxy composite build can take a very long time. 

My plan is similar to yours and I've even considered keeping the 23 and relocating it to the Gulf Coast where the sailing is better.  That plan would require a reliable partner on location.  I've already experienced trying to keep up a boat located away from me and it didn't work out well.  Mine at 35 miles is tough enough, 300 miles would be unworkable.  I would move there but the Admiral is dead set against it.