Good Evening one and all.
I just thought I'd introduce myself. My name is David and I maybe something of a rarity on here being a) in the United Kingdom (Thats England!) and b) having just purchased a Com-Pac 23. Even more so as I now realise that Com-Pac 23s with the inboard Yanmar diesels are something of a rarity. So you can add another one to the list of where they are.
PS Just so you know CoVianna is a Romano-Celtic Water Goddess. A sort of cross between Lady Luck and the Lady of the Lake. Roman soldiers used to toss a coin into a stream as an offering to her. An early form of a wishing well.
Hail coVianna,
How did your 23 make it to the U.K. ? Was it shipped or was it sailed?
It must be great sailing against twin keels!
Are you inland or on the coast?
Sorry go the questions, but I suspect there is a good story...
Welcome aboard! Beware of Bob, and PBR beer.
Hi
It was shipped across in 1997 apparently.
The boat is currently on the South Coast on the Isle of Wight but i will shortly have her transported to the East Coast. I am on the River Humber, which is a tidal estuary. This gives me good coastal sailing with the opportunity to cross the channel and explore France, Holland and for long trips to explore the Baltic.
Quite a few bulge keel yachts here but fin keels predominate with quite a few lift keelers also. Very handy if you catch the mud!
But initially I will explore the inland rivers, following the old Viking routes to York and just to get used to the boat.
Fair tides!
David
Welcome to the group. You must be one of a very small group of ComPac owners on that side of the pond.
When I bought my boat the dealer was preparing one to ship to Germany at the same time so it still happens from time to time. Enjoy.
awesome
keep us posted with some pics
of course when we'all come over
we anticipate a sail eh?
slainte'
MurphEy, from Antrim Co. now in Lancaster, PA (name sake from N. England city)
welcome!
i was out your way last year.
visited London, Norwich, Cromer, and my favorite, Wells-next-the-Sea.
did a little cruising on the Broads too!
Here she is:
(http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/81/90/6308190_20170721063616002_1_XLARGE.jpg?f=/1/81/90/6308190_20170721063616002_1_XLARGE.jpg&w=924&h=693&t=1500648425000)
Hello from the Mississippi Gulf Coast !
I have enjoyed watching Dylan Winter's Keep Turning Left videos on sailing the Humber and the other tidal stream areas. Waiting for a tide to let you in or out of a marina up a stream is so different than what I'm used to; here a one or two foot coastal tide only means you may have to step up to or down to the boat from the dock !
Welcome aboard! There is one other active UK member, Gordon who sails Applejack (http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=8427.0), a very well maintained CP-16. There are plenty of informed and helpful people here to share their knowledge, although I'm mainly just trying to absorb a few tidbits.
Welcome! That is a truly beautiful 23D I've always been a sucker for navy blue hulls and the extra teak coaming cover on the D's
Oh and don't worry about Bob. I've found that he cannot engage in extortion below the Mason Dixon line, so he has no chance at all in England. I doubt that his Joisy family can even find it on the map. If he does happen upon you just offer him a good English ale at a pub and he'll forget about the extortion, ah I mean initiation fee.
Beautiful boat! Is that another com-PAC moored behind you?
I don't think so.
That is not my mooring, it is the mooring of the chap I am buying off. It is at Bembridge on the Isle of Wight. A lovely peaceful location well away from the manic Solent! But handy if you fancy some fun on the Solent or fancy doing the Round the Island race.
This is where I will be initially sailing.
https://vimeo.com/114253261
Welcome.
Nice boat.
Thank you. I'm pleased with her. As a design I think it just works.
(http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boatimages/resize/d3/9e/70817525large.jpg)
Good looking, inside and out, basically not at all like NJ Bob.
CoVianna
Your boat looks very tidy. Is she the CP-23 that was moored near Emsworth for the last couple of years or so?
We thought quite long and hard when she came on the market as to whether to make the jump for 7 footitis.
Are you still SOlent area or has the move to the mighty Humber already happened?
Regards
Gordon
'Applejack'
Good morning Gordon.
It is highly likely as there are not many other (if any?) Com-Pac 23Ds in the UK as far as I am aware. I first saw her advertised last year by a Yacht Broker in the Emsworth area I think. The owner had died, if I remember rightly, and the family were selling her. I couldn't sell my then boat in time to buy her and she was sold to the chap I bought her off. He was based in Bembridge, IOW. I kept looking at ApolloDuck and Boats & Outboards all this year hoping another might become available. Then here she was again. It all ties in to be the boat you mention as he sailed her across from Chichester I think.
She is now on the Hard at Gosport and will be moved to the Humber later this month.
Yours,
David
PS What are peoples views on renaming a boat? Bad luck?
It's not bad luck if you send me a bottle of good scotch whiskey so I can put in a good word with Neptune for ya.!
TG
Quote from: CoVianna on September 14, 2017, 04:03:28 AM
PS What are peoples views on renaming a boat? Bad luck?
There are numerous myths and legends about the proper way to rename a boat, often involving sacrifices (traditionally liquid) to the sea. It's debatable if you are allowed to filter those sacrifices once before granting them to the sea--I am not condoning discharging raw urine into the water, just saying people may choose to pee in the pool, which is kind of what the fish do.
Basically, it's an excuse to do whatever symbolic ritual you think is most worthy. Bad luck happens whether you rename the boat or not; no getting around that.
Quote from: Tim Gardner on September 15, 2017, 04:04:11 PM
It's not bad luck if you send me a bottle of good scotch whiskey so I can put in a good word with Neptune for ya.!
TG
I am one of the unclean in the UK as I prefer Bourbon to Whisky! And even worse if drinking Whiskey I prefer Irish to Scotch! (Note that in the main a Scottish product is spelled Whisky and an Irish product is spelled Whiskey). All the above is sacrilege in Scotland and would at best see you pitied as a simpleton and at worst punched!
PS Whichever American I invented Southern Comfort should be hung, drawn and quartered! A foul, over sweet abomination of a drink. Do you actually drink it over the pond?
Here in the US where the English language has become more refined (ahem), the plural of Whisky is Whiskies. Using an 'e', no? Since we never have only one (like the wimpy Scots or Canadians or the effete Europeans), it seems only proper to be consistent and use the term Whiskey with the 'e'.
So, now, the requirement is for you to send me two bottles of differing Scotch Whiskies!
Southern Comfort was made for the ladies.
Now shall we discuss the spelling of the word 'color'? Or is it 'colour'? Either way, dismissing a renaming ceremony as mere local color is a sure way to become red in the face as your luck asea begins to fade.
TG
I like this Forum, people take things as they are meant to be. With tongue firmly in the cheek! Mild joshing, joking and mickey taking but all done in the right circumstances. And seriousness applied to the appropriate topics where sound advice is required.
I don't know what it is like in the States but if you want to start an argument on a UK Sailing Forum you just have to ask which is the best anchor to use! So much so that on the YBW Forums anchors are such a sensitive subject that people hardly dare raise the subject.
We are a tolerant people in the UK and look on with mild amusement at our Colonial Offspring with benevolent interest while they mangle the Queen's English. Shakespeare will only slowly be revolving in his gave!
PS Is Bollocks a word in America?
PPS And of course it is colour. And Neighbour. And we will not even go in to the way you pronounce tomato!
What's the metal that your mast is made of? [please say out loud]
[lol!!!]
Al-u-min-i-um!
Yes CoVianna, well illustrated, there is much these people have still to learn......... <sigh>
(c;
Way too many syllables, in new jerseyIan, USA, it is
Al-lum-um
Well today's the day the boat finally moves from the Solent to the Humber. At this very moment it is winging it's way past Oxford. It seems to have taken an eternity to get everything sorted. It will be good to have it nearby and be able to work on it ready for next year. Having said that very little actually needs doing but I like to potter around boats. The only job I'm not looking forward to is the antifouling!
David: Is water based anti-fouling available over on your side of the pond? I'm guessing it is. It's made my life so much easier. I've been using Interlux "Aqua" which is a multi year ablative water based anti fouling. At the end of last season (2016) when I had the mighty "Koiononia" (1985 23/2) hauled, there was nary a barnacle on her bottom. It is less toxic, dries fast and doesn't have that noxious smell that the solvent based stuff does.
Best to you, you will enjoy the seaworthiness of the 23! She's a well behaved little yacht!
Bob23 from New Jersey!
Well the boat is at her new "home", albeit up on the hard. The most nerve wracking bit, for me anyway, is when she is being lifted in the slings off the trailer and onto her cradle.
The antifouling is likely to be Jotun as there is a factory a few miles away and it is usually available at a discount. She has a few barnacles on her tiller, which I presume to be aluminium. So they will need scrapping off. The Humber is very nutrient rich and we tend to get a lot of slime and weed growth so a hard eroding antifouling is needed.
I will probably have lots of questions to ask so be prepared.
Today is a day at the boat to strip it ready for the winter.
Hey David,
Hard eroding is kind of an Oxymoron like British intelligence, No? I take it the Humber is a river and not an automobile. If it's fresh water, hard copper anti-fouling bottom paint remains the best. Regular sailing in the fresh waters of Virginia's Smith Mountain Lake keeps the bottom clean as a whistle.
IMHO TG
Pretty much! I knew what I meant even if the words didn't come out right!
The Humber is a salt water tidal estuary opening out to the North Sea.
A hard antifoul should last 2 to 3 years and will allow me to scrub the bottom once or twice a season without removing the antifouling. A softer, quicker eroding antifoul will come off on the brush.
I am not worried by barnacles or similar as the boat is kept on the River Ancholme, and I lock out onto the Humber, which is a fresh water river, actually a drainage sluice, and fresh water is not good for a barnacles health.
Dylan Winter of KTL spent about a year on the Humber and made quite a few videos of it: https://vimeo.com/114375905
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.6488359,-0.8426136,8z
PS Forgot to say the tidal range is approx 24 feet on Springs.
CoV
Glad the transport went well. Ideally I would like to know what sort of cost is involved in the transport as I am suffering from a bout of what could turn out to be 'anotherboatitis' and one I'm looking at is about 170 miles away. A PM would be fine if that suits you better.
Hi
The cost was £600 all in.
That was from Gosport to South Ferriby which is about 250 miles.
I used Brian at Southampton Boat Towing ( http://www.boat-towing.co.uk/ ).
His wasn't the cheapest quote but he came recommended and was helpful with suggesting where to get the boat lifted etc. The boat yard prepped the boat for transport but he went over it again and taped things up, removed nuts and bolts that might work loose, removed the windex etc.
All in all more than satisfied and would use him again.
Many thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
Gordon